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vestan

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Same. Both TW101 and Tokyo Mirage Sessions deserve to be on Switch. Other first party's titles such as Pikmin or Zelda will be remastered on the next Nintendo console if not on the Switch anyway, but for those two, the Switch is most likely their last chance to live so I hope they'll come soon.
Yeah. #FE was alright for what it was and should definitely get a Switch port but W101 is quite literally the best Wii U game and it's a crime that it hasn't been given a new life on the Switch.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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This 30/60fps discussion reminds me that I'm actually quite worried for the quality of this upcoming Metroid, as retro ain't doing it. I really hope they don't fuck this up. As far as I'm concerned, 30fps would a significant let down and certainly not a good look when compared to the previous titles.
We'll see in 10 days now.
 

Klappdrachen

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Please, for the love of god, no high heels, no federation, no Sylux and no multiplayer focus. That stuff just doesn't work in Metroid. Save that for a spin-off.
 

Wamb0wneD

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Oct 26, 2017
18,735
More speculation - or a tease, not sure. Unsure how accurate SuperMetalDave is, either.


Don't pay any attention to him. Seriously.
I don't remember what it was about, but I remember him going all in on a leak of some sort, that got proven false, only for him to double down and make a fool of himself.
Pretty sure it was about what the Switch is and it's specs. I think what kind of chip it was using or something.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Aonuma seemed to hint at it.
Seems like he never did, but it got picked up because that's what happens with bad translations
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSw..._plans_to_release_the_legend_of_zelda/eanh4fq

I posted the following comment in the original thread from 2 days ago; it was a joking exchange between Aonuma and Shimamura, and the rumor was more of a wishful thinking:

Aonuma did not teased a remake at the concert; he was merely responding to the request of the voice actor Shimamura (who wanted a remake). See this Japanese Twitter thread:

https://twitter.com/mizuirostregone/status/1066657983252201473

https://twitter.com/mizuirostregone/status/1066670060750594048

However, based on Aonuma's response and the recent Game Informer rumor, it'd be a good guess that Nintendo is indeed working on some sort of Zelda project.
 

Wamb0wneD

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Oct 26, 2017
18,735
The perfect thing for me would be Bluepoint doing an actual Prime trilogy remake lol. One can dream.
 

Wamb0wneD

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Oct 26, 2017
18,735
They did the SotC remake, right? I played through that earlier this year and was thoroughly impressed.
Yeah and some of the key staff there actually worked on Metroid Prime lol. It would be like poetry.
I'd imagine it would look pretty close to this:


Yeah I saw that, one of the few UE4 fan projects that actually don't completely ruin the art. Still a bit too realistic looking for my tastes.
 

BRSxIgnition

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Thing is, if they bring back Sylux, then where in the timeline does that place the game?

I know many here won't care but part of what I loved about the prime games growing up was how the lore all fit together and told stories not only of each and every planet you went to, but also of the history of the chozo and the luminoth and the battles between samus and the space pirates, as well as the federation.

It's the kind of storybuilding people praise in Souls games, and I think that it's part of Metroid Prime's DNA.

I really hope expanding the scope to include Sylux and his grudge with the federation doesn't ruin that.
 

Klappdrachen

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Oct 26, 2017
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You don't liek the role it played in the games? Prime 2's implementation was fantastic imo, her bossfights were fun and she was actually somewhat intimidating at times.

The whole concept of her actually being Metroid Prime is great.
I actually like that part, but the character design and the idea of an "evil twin" character just never did it for me, especially since the latter had already been done better (IMO) in another Metroid game. I love the more organic, grotesque and mechanical enemies in Metroid games, like the Parasite Queen, Quadraxis, Draygon, or Mother Brain.
 

Xtortion

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I think Sylux has a lot of potential. I'm interested to see his inevitable redesign.

He's a humanoid boss fight if anything. And those tend to be pretty cool!

But yeah, he doesn't need to be this vocal, constantly in your face antagonist or anything. More like just a malicious force on the planet that Samus has to deal with. Maybe throw in a bit of cat and mouse with them hunting each other. I have no attachment to Sylux (never even played Hunters), but the concept of hunter vs hunter could be very tense and intimate if they pull it off right.

Edit - the harder they lean into the SA-X with Sylux, the better
 

mariodk18

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I wonder if Nintendo can offer everyone a bonus if their employees manage to not leak something. Would that prevent leaks? Or are there just too many disgruntled employees?
 

byDoS

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I actually like that part, but the character design and the idea of an "evil twin" character just never did it for me, especially since the latter had already been done better (IMO) in another Metroid game. I love the more organic, grotesque and mechanical enemies in Metroid games, like the Parasite Queen, Quadraxis, Draygon, or Mother Brain.

I mean, SA-X is definetely a better "evil twin" than Dark Samus, but I think that it's mainly because of how each developer executed their respective idea, not necessarily because one is conceptually better/superior than other.

SA-X was used to instill fear in every corner, while Dark Samus is more of a combat-counter in that regard. In the end, I think both were well and fully realized in their own unique ways.
 

Wamb0wneD

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I actually like that part, but the character design and the idea of an "evil twin" character just never did it for me, especially since the latter had already been done better (IMO) in another Metroid game. I love the more organic, grotesque and mechanical enemies in Metroid games, like the Parasite Queen, Quadraxis, Draygon, or Mother Brain.
Oh on paper it sounds lame as hell, but the way they managed to make her existence at the end of Prime 1 plausibe and managed to develop her as a threat over 3 games was done pretty well imo. Of course SA-X was damn good too. Fusion is also way creepier than any Prime game outside of maybe 2 at some points. 3's tone went downhill sadly.

You could argue Dark Samus is organic, seeking for a body and the way her homeplanet invades other planets.
 

BRSxIgnition

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The harder they lean into the SA-X with Sylux, the better

Agreed 100% - SA-X was awesome and terrifying.

Having points in the story such as at the beginning where Sylux is legitimately more powerful to the point where Samus would have to avoid him or hide would be a good touch, I think.
 

byDoS

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I need the Trilogy remaster and Prime 4. At least with the announcement of the first one, or a new trailer of the second, I will be happy.



Spawn Wave is also a mod here? I didn't know that! You both are awesome!!

lol

Nate is Direct-Feed. They are both the same person. One and only. And they are both mods here.

The other is Jon, who is an entirely new person. And also a mod.
 

Brickhunt

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He's a humanoid boss fight if anything. And those tend to be pretty cool!

But yeah, he doesn't need to be this vocal, constantly in your face antagonist or anything. More like just a malicious force on the planet that Samus has to deal with. Maybe throw in a bit of cat and mouse with them hunting each other. I have no attachment to Sylux (never even played Hunters), but the concept of hunter vs hunter could be very tense and intimate if they pull it off right.

Edit - the harder they lean into the SA-X with Sylux, the better
It's very difficult for it to lean towards SA-X, that could one-hit kill Samus. Sylux, and the other NDS hunters, were built as rivals and having Sylux be much stronger than Samus would feel weird, considering she already got the best of him in the past.

One of the cool things , in theory, about Prime: Hunters is that if you lost to a hunter, you lose one of the "key" items of the game and has hunt it again (again, theory. In practice, their AI was too weak to challenge you). I would like to see Samus arriving into a room in order to obtain a upgrade or key item, only to turn out that it was already stolen by Sylux or another hunter, and you have to hunt him down, possibly by looking for clues/trail using the scan visor and other visors, like in the Arkham Games.
 

Marmoka

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Not sure if serious...

lol

Nate is Direct-Feed. They are both the same person. One and only. And they are both mods here.

The other is Jon, who is an entirely new person. And also a mod.

OK, I misunderstood it. I saw Spawn Wave and Direct Feed Games in the OP. I knew Nate Drake is Direct Feed Games, and so I concluded the other mod was Spawn Wave.
I have already checked out about Jon, and found he's from GameXplain. I didn't know this.
I feel ridiculous right now.
 

BRSxIgnition

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So do any of these mods or sites have any other hints they'd like to throw us?

th
 

byDoS

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OK, I misunderstood it. I saw Spawn Wave and Direct Feed Games in the OP. I knew Nate Drake is Direct Feed Games, and so I concluded the other mod was Spawn Wave.
I have already checked out about Jon, and found he's from GameXplain. I didn't know this.
I feel ridiculous right now.

C'mon... don't need to feel this way. I was just messing with ya

Sorry
 

Denryu

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He's a humanoid boss fight if anything. And those tend to be pretty cool!

But yeah, he doesn't need to be this vocal, constantly in your face antagonist or anything. More like just a malicious force on the planet that Samus has to deal with. Maybe throw in a bit of cat and mouse with them hunting each other. I have no attachment to Sylux (never even played Hunters), but the concept of hunter vs hunter could be very tense and intimate if they pull it off right.

Edit - the harder they lean into the SA-X with Sylux, the better

That's how i imagined they would do it. With him being sort of the stalker type, following Samus around on her missions and trying to take her out when she's not expecting. I really don't think they need to give him any dialogue at all.
 

CarlSagan94

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Oh on paper it sounds lame as hell, but the way they managed to make her existence at the end of Prime 1 plausibe and managed to develop her as a threat over 3 games was done pretty well imo. Of course SA-X was damn good too. Fusion is also way creepier than any Prime game outside of maybe 2 at some points. 3's tone went downhill sadly.

You could argue Dark Samus is organic, seeking for a body and the way her homeplanet invades other planets.
Valhalla says hello to you
 

NateDrake

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Oct 24, 2017
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OK, I misunderstood it. I saw Spawn Wave and Direct Feed Games in the OP. I knew Nate Drake is Direct Feed Games, and so I concluded the other mod was Spawn Wave.
I have already checked out about Jon, and found he's from GameXplain. I didn't know this.
I feel ridiculous right now.
No worries.
 

KratosEnergyDrink

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Oct 27, 2017
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The games were already rather special in their original context, if Other M haven't managed to kill the franchise a Trilogy rerelease ain't gonna do that.
Heck people said the same thing about the Crash trilogy being antiquated games only good because of nostalgia and it paid off rather well.

People bought the triology, but thats obviously not what I am talking about.

I am talking about the possibility that a boring triology could hurt sales of a new game. And MP1 & MP2 could be boring for newcomers and make them not buy MP4.
 

Dark Cloud

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really hope we get to see like 5-10 seconds of gameplay atleast. Maybe Samus can run in a straight line and everyone will assume it's a Metroid Run game.
 

Fuchsia

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Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah please don't hit us with a boring CG trailer. Give us that sweet gameplay tease. I want to see how this game actually looks.
 

Lady Bow

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Oh on paper it sounds lame as hell, but the way they managed to make her existence at the end of Prime 1 plausibe and managed to develop her as a threat over 3 games was done pretty well imo. Of course SA-X was damn good too. Fusion is also way creepier than any Prime game outside of maybe 2 at some points. 3's tone went downhill sadly.

You could argue Dark Samus is organic, seeking for a body and the way her homeplanet invades other planets.
I'd argue that Prime 3 is the creepiest in the trilogy just because of the two locations below:

-The abandoned Metroid facility in SkyTown
-The derelict GFS Valhalla

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Neiteio

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Oct 25, 2017
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He's a humanoid boss fight if anything. And those tend to be pretty cool!

But yeah, he doesn't need to be this vocal, constantly in your face antagonist or anything. More like just a malicious force on the planet that Samus has to deal with. Maybe throw in a bit of cat and mouse with them hunting each other. I have no attachment to Sylux (never even played Hunters), but the concept of hunter vs hunter could be very tense and intimate if they pull it off right.

Edit - the harder they lean into the SA-X with Sylux, the better
Hunters was a legitimately excellent multiplayer shooter with KBM-like controls, great characters and well-designed environments. Thing is, while Sylux was neat, so were the other hunters (my favorite being Trace), so it's intriguing to me that Sylux lived on but the others appear to have been forgotten.

...unless they all appear in MP4, which would be incredible, come to think of it.
 

ArjanN

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean Nintendo will be there and Bayonetta 3 and Metroid are basically their upcoming games of interest, so IMO there's a decent chance.
 

IronFalcon1997

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My wishlist:
- Voiced dialogue with enough story to drive the narrative/mystery.
- Dual-analog (with lock-on) with motion controls supported to refine aiming
- Samus doesn't lose her powers at the beginning of the game because of reasons
- Samus has new weapons/abilities. I'd like a weapon that doesn't feel like a beam or missiles and has a little more of the feel of FPS gunplay.
- An area or space station where I can talk to people, buy stuff, and get enemy bounties to collect. The universe always feels way too small in these games compared to the potential of a "space bounty hunter" concept.
- Some codex that are audio/video recordings that you can listen to (the audio recording mechanic works really well in other games). I like the "get item, rotate it to see more information/explore" too.
- Optional guidance that can be turned off for your traditional Metroid player, but keeps your casual player from getting lost. Maybe Samus talks to an AI in her suit or something?
- Enough action/set-pieces interspersed through the game so that people get their FPS fix
- Some areas we haven't seen before in a Metroid game
- Online multiplayer that has some different feeling classes

There's been lots of examples (Doom, Arkham games, Tomb Raider, Souls series, Mass Effect, etc) that Prime 4 should take some notes from.
I'm sorry, but that's just not Metroid. Metroid is all about isolation and atmosphere. It's a beautifully eerie and lonely experience. Honestly, the only thing that I would agree with is the dual-analog/motion + lock-on controls.
 

Dremorak

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hunters was a legitimately excellent multiplayer shooter with KBM-like controls, great characters and well-designed environments. Thing is, while Sylux was neat, so were the other hunters (my favorite being Trace), so it's intriguing to me that Sylux lived on but the others appear to have been forgotten.

...unless they all appear in MP4, which would be incredible, come to think of it.
Imagine if this one involved Samus doing actual bounty hunting lol.
A cross between this:
220px-MetroidPrimebox.jpg


And this:
220px-Star_Wars_Bounty_Hunter_PS2.JPG


Would be amazing
 
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