I'm not sure what the plot here would be, though. Wohl sets up some woman to actually get beat up by Avenatti or fake injuries and claim it was him, and then claims credit for the setup on twitter immediately after news breaks of his arrest?
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Michael Avenatti has been arrested (update: released on bail)
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He sure seems calm and confident about the situation.
Even thanking the LAPD for their professionalism.
He's not taking the Trump "Witch Hunt" approach.
Even thanking the LAPD for their professionalism.
He's not taking the Trump "Witch Hunt" approach.
I don't live in California and have no idea how the system works over there.
From the reports she seems to have gone to the police, then Avenatti went to the police, then he paid bail. From the descriptions it all seems to have been quick, so I doubt the police completed a full investigation and evidence gathering before arresting Avenatti. And considering the specific charge, I am sure she will be able to prove they were an item, that doesn't proclude any notions that there is foul play here (beyond of course, the allegations).
No, I said "I'm not believing anyone".
Then the part you cut out said something about him finally being booked strongly swaying me in that direction, didn't it?
I think it's too early.
(Also, from the stories we've heard, the victim didn't go to the cops.) And the 'suspected assault' were the cops words while he was being held, since I believe it was reported by a 3rd party.
Now to catch up see if anything developed last couple hours.
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-pol-avenatti-police-20181114-story.html
Yup never went to the cops. Fucking hell.
Yeah, since it's filed under domestic abuse, wouldn't the person have to know Avenatti in some capacity? Unless there's a long con. I know that with Worl's previous debacle and him participating in the conversation, along with Stormy's previous arrest for that weird ass rule (pun not intended), it makes it seem like it's possible to that it's a setup. But that's also one of the things that the alt-right Post Truth culture has managed to do, which it to throw the world and everything in it into a big Schrodinger's box.
I also doubt that they would actually arrest and book him if they haven't actually seen the victim.
I also doubt that they would actually arrest and book him if they haven't actually seen the victim.
It definitely doesn't make much sense, but neither did his last plot. The fact that there was enough to go on for an actual arrest does up the credibility quite a bit, but Wohl is a known bad actor, so I'm going to need more information before I know where i land on this
Yeah if it were a setup wouldn't it be more likely that it'll just be assault and not domestic abuse?
The woman who claims he beat her and went to cops with visible injuries. Is that really a hard question here??
Jesus fucking Christ. Is it really that hard to "Believe Women" Era?
The words that followed that were :
Don' t know why you cut their post there to try to put them on the spot...
The bail system needs to go away,it makes people seem innocent.
Domestic abuse allegations in California mandate an arrest, regardless of circumstances of accusations.
We just need to wait, we are all discussing this over scraps of information in a sea of disinformation.
My mistake, I thought the apartment security called the cops the day after when she went back for her stuff and a fight broke out.
You can chill btw.
Okay but this is coming from the guy who used HIS OWN PHOTO as the boss of his fake company ..............................
Does CA have a bond/bail system where the bail is 50k but that means you really only have to pay 5k for bond and as long as you don't skip your hearings you're good? Either way thats a pretty high bail/bond. I would assume they have a pretty solid case.
Because that was the part of the post I was responding to?
Just like I'm doing now?
I didn't delete the original post, anyone can go back and read the whole thing. You can follow the little arrows through the whole conversation
Although I don't see how quoting this in full
Changes my original question
I think it's Wohl being a prick. For the LAPD to do this there has to be something more than just a phone call made.
Your first statement is disinformation. Arrest is mandatory if they believe domestic violence occurred. We also know she has made allegations to the police and has injury.
Most likely. I think it works that way in most states. I know it does in AZ. You need to come up with 10%. But you still need to cover the rest with collateral. I'm sure that's easy for a lawyer with assets.
Right, so someone essentially is vouching that you aren't gonna skip town.
I mean, someone saying their gut has been wrong before is a non negligible thing to ignore when passively aggressively asking a poster if they personally know Avenatti...
I never threw my support behind Avenatti (go as far back into my posting history as you want, it's not there), but all the crowing itt about how people 'told us so' and how Avenatti supporters should be ashamed of themselves is disingenuous as all fuck. You might have called him a fraud, a grifter, but I'd love to see evidence of someone predicting he's a woman beater before this story broke. Y'all are full of shit, and people are allowed to withdraw their support after this without being shamed for supporting an abuser before there was ever any evidence that he was one.
Is it?
Before I saw this I was looking to see if that's true, found this:
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Many law enforcement agencies now mandate that all domestic violence calls must end in the arrest of one or both of the parties involved. The police will attempt to determine who the aggressor is and then will arrest this party. The police will be looking for injuries, no matter how slight. In some cases, the person who actually called 911 will end up being arrested for domestic violence. The police will ask the victim if he or she wants an emergency protective order and will also ask if he or she wants to press charges. Even if the victim indicates that he or she does not want to press charges, the police will still make the arrest. The arrested party will be taken to jail and will be required to post bond in order to be released. If there were children present at the time of the incident, a copy of the arrest report will be sent to the Department of Public Social Services which will launch its own investigation.
Domestic Violence Investigations
Once a suspect has been arrested on suspicion of a domestic violence offense and is released from custody, he or she will be provided a future court date. Most police agencies have dedicated domestic violence units or detectives who investigate these types of offenses. Once an arrest report has been generated, a detective will be assigned to conduct an investigation. In many cases the detective will follow up with the alleged victim and may take additional statements from the victim, suspect or any other witness who was present. The suspect, through his or her attorney, can also present evidence to the detective.
If the detective believes that there is enough evidence to charge the suspect, the case will be submitted to the appropriate prosecuting agency for filing consideration. The detective will typically make a recommendation regarding what charges, if any, would be appropriate and whether or not the suspect should be charged with a felony or a misdemeanor. The detective may recommend that the suspect be charged with corporal injury to a spouse in violation of California Penal Code Section 273.5(a) PC, domestic battery pursuant to California Penal Code Section 243(e)(1) PC or one of several other domestic violence charges. The prosecution may conduct its own investigation when determining what, if any, charges to file."
So I'll probably wait til he's charged by the detective, assuming it follows the path outlined above. Or until we hear from the woman of course, but that may not happen in a DV case.
Seriously, what's up with all the fucking hindsight bias in this thread?
He's still a lawyer at the end of the day. He should be an expert at remaining calm under legal pressures even if he's guilty.
Who knows what this is yet, but also...some people were legitimately talking about supporting this guy for president in 2020. I still can't get over it.
I think I'll just sit back and wait for the investigation to be completed.
Chill pills for everyone.
Chill pills for everyone.
When someone just tried to pay women to make fake sexual allegations against Robert Mueller, not immediately assuming guilt without evidence or an investigation isn't a conspiracy, it's rational.
Surefire is capitalizing on the pandemonium, I wouldn't believe anything from them even if Avenatti was framed (which there is zero evidence for, so we should stop perpetuating that).
Remember, those who opposite democracy favour chaos and uncertainty, and that's Surefire's role right now. Also, saying that they claimed responsibility is pretty disingenuous.
Remember, those who opposite democracy favour chaos and uncertainty, and that's Surefire's role right now. Also, saying that they claimed responsibility is pretty disingenuous.
You do realize there is a difference between some law enforcement agencies and the actual law of California, correct?
The point is it's not a shitty thing. It's clearly stated multiple times on the page before you give your money and it's a common thing. It was never meant as a trick, it's just how it works. Somebody who didn't know how these things work made a stink about it thinking it was some shady scam concocted by Avenatti when it wasn't.
Nobody ignored it. That part of the post doesn't magically disappear from reality if it's not used in a quote. I read the whole post. You read the whole post. The person who wrote the post obviously read it.
That seems to be your modus operandi for this entire thread but alright
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