Has any Pokemon game not been for kids or Pokemon fans??? Where do these comments come from.
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Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu / Eevee Review Thread
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Hope you don't mind me asking but do you actually work full time on the site/pokémon stuff? Seems awesome!
Getting rid of things like interesting puzzles and having decent exploration. Piss easy main games with no options for increasing difficulty and no advanced battle facilities in the post game like battle frontier. I'm all for increasing accessibility, but that doesn't mean you have to sacrifice depth
The Smash series, this actually feels like a "Melee vs. Brawl" repeat lol
For the love of everything, I will never understand this "reviewers out of touch with X franchise should not review this game franchise". I'm like, why is this even a topic in 2018?
Does people who review books/music/movies needs to be an expert in the genre they review in order to give their opinion? Is like a movie reviewer who enjoys thoughtful and provocative movies shouldn't review stuff aimed at kids? What?
In the case of Pokemon, this game aims to a massive casual and open audience, it shouldn't matter if the reviewer "is in touch" with Pokemon or the fanbse. Let's Go is a title specifically made for anyone to just pick and play, regardless of previous knowledge of the game.
This reminds me of the whole Dark Souls or Cuphead debacle. More than infuriating, it is just so sad to see so much gatekeeping and not understanding that this medium is for everyone, not just the hardcore fanboy.
Does people who review books/music/movies needs to be an expert in the genre they review in order to give their opinion? Is like a movie reviewer who enjoys thoughtful and provocative movies shouldn't review stuff aimed at kids? What?
In the case of Pokemon, this game aims to a massive casual and open audience, it shouldn't matter if the reviewer "is in touch" with Pokemon or the fanbse. Let's Go is a title specifically made for anyone to just pick and play, regardless of previous knowledge of the game.
This reminds me of the whole Dark Souls or Cuphead debacle. More than infuriating, it is just so sad to see so much gatekeeping and not understanding that this medium is for everyone, not just the hardcore fanboy.
If the other Pokémon games weren't for kids, why do they keep dumbing them down? Was RGBY for adults?
As a shameless Gen-oner I am very curious about Let's Go. I heard no online battles against randoms which bums me out but I honestly never did much of that in the previous games. If Kat Bailey reccommends it and there is substantial endgame content I might pick it up this Friday, if not I'll probably wait a week to see what the public concesses is.
gamecentral review is up:
https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/13/poke...o-used-nostalgia-its-super-effective-8134907/
sum up:
In Short: The perfect introduction to 'proper' Pokémon games for GO players but also an enjoyably nostalgic remake for existing pokéfans.
Pros: A carefully balanced mix of old and new features, in terms of both gameplay and accessibility. As addictive as ever and the depth of combat and customisation remains impressive.
Cons: Very low-tech graphics and generally cheap-looking presentation. Limited online options. The series' traditional lack of any artificial intelligence is still a problem.
Score: 8/10
https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/13/poke...o-used-nostalgia-its-super-effective-8134907/
sum up:
In Short: The perfect introduction to 'proper' Pokémon games for GO players but also an enjoyably nostalgic remake for existing pokéfans.
Pros: A carefully balanced mix of old and new features, in terms of both gameplay and accessibility. As addictive as ever and the depth of combat and customisation remains impressive.
Cons: Very low-tech graphics and generally cheap-looking presentation. Limited online options. The series' traditional lack of any artificial intelligence is still a problem.
Score: 8/10
I actually can't tell if you're serious. You're speaking to me with a Pokemon avatar, in a serious tone, about some light hearted games that appear to be giving people joy. Are you being sarcastic or not? Because if not, I barely know where to begin with this.
The reviews don't seem to say anything that contradicts everything people expected.
The messaging for this game has been consistent: it's probably not for me even if it's a cute distraction in Kanto.
The messaging for this game has been consistent: it's probably not for me even if it's a cute distraction in Kanto.
You said the game was for pokemon fans, which implies that people who aren't interested aren't fans
Why do I feel like most are just looking at scores instead of reading anything? I get that reading is not popular with the target for these games, but c'mon. :p
Should be the bare minimum to compare it with other games in the same franchise. "Nostalgia" isn't a strong argument for quality, even more when not everyone grew up with gen 1 like the reviewers.
The only gatekeeping I see is from gen 1 fans over the other gens. People calling the other titles "obtuse" over simple stuff. Pokémon was never too complex, there's a reason all games are still popular with kids -- it's already acessible.
I've never played a Pokemon game before and was considering making this my first. Good or bad idea?
The issue here is that a number of the hardcore fans have been trashing this game and expecting it to review poorly since the announcement. Even in this thread some are questioning the reviewers.
I imagine people will hoard candies like they did with rare candies back in the original games. I don't think I ever used rare candies until the post game.
Is there a time where you don't complain about this game? It's time to move on my man.
Every review seems to agree that it is a good entry point ;)
The Pokemon fanbase is an ageing one. There are making sure to cover as many bases as possible without fully covering any single target audience. The game has a lot of stuff for very young children (and I think that is what is meant when people here say "kids") such as the cutesy art style, the new move names and the overall difficulty of the game. It also has the nostalgia for older fans/lapsed fans as it's a remake of Yellow. It also has Go mechanics to interest the mobile audience and lastly it has at least some depth and difficulty at the end of the game/post-game for the more hardcore fans that understand that this is a mostly casual game.
Hey. Here's a thought: maybe they had FUN playing these games. As in they ENJOYED to play them, which factored into how they reviewed it.
I think they can give whatever score they like based on that, and not immediately call it garbage because the game caters more to a younger audience.
I'm talking to someone dunking on new fans and ignoring the history of of Gen 1 fans gatekeeping this franchise and then having the audacity of blaming people for being disappointed in this because it is catering to said gatekeepers.
Yes, but this is something simplified for them. The past games become very complicated, imo.
BTW, this game is not kids only, probably plenty of fun can be found for all ages. I said grumpy ERA not all ERA.
Looks like very half hearted reviews in fairness.
It's pretty is exactly what I expected.
this needed to blow me away with reviews for me to be interested,
Shame really because initially I was interested but almost every piece of information released since has put me off.
It's pretty is exactly what I expected.
this needed to blow me away with reviews for me to be interested,
Shame really because initially I was interested but almost every piece of information released since has put me off.
That might be a fair critique, but that makes stuff like Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon's Metacritic scores look very weird in comparion to Explorers of the Sky, considering the many of the same criticisms could be lobbied at Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon, with the added cutscenes with the Ultra Recon Squad just slowing down the existing story that's otherwise largely the same, and some of the best scenes, like the ones involving you following Lusamine and Guzma into Ultra Space and then fighting her, being cut. But yet Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon reviewed just fine and have like a what 84 on Metacritic, so something's definitely off in how mainline vs spinoffs are handled, or something. That's a very huge discrepancy that can't help but stand out to me.
Let's Go is not the game for me. I knew that from the very first trailer.
Reviews don't surprise me nor I think they're unjustified. A game is more than just the gameplay systems it has. Style and presentation does count, the flow of the campaign, etc. Also reviews are meant to be for the wider demographic, us loyal fans should know what to expect from trailers and what not.
Still, I do hope that Let's Go allows Gen8 to actually be a more compelling game for the competitive side. The fact that VGC2019 is gonna be played on Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon is VERY disappointing. And that the nostalgia pandering is locked to the Let's Go series or whatever because it's tiring to see Kanto references in every corner of every game.
Reviews don't surprise me nor I think they're unjustified. A game is more than just the gameplay systems it has. Style and presentation does count, the flow of the campaign, etc. Also reviews are meant to be for the wider demographic, us loyal fans should know what to expect from trailers and what not.
Still, I do hope that Let's Go allows Gen8 to actually be a more compelling game for the competitive side. The fact that VGC2019 is gonna be played on Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon is VERY disappointing. And that the nostalgia pandering is locked to the Let's Go series or whatever because it's tiring to see Kanto references in every corner of every game.
It will sell 10+ million copies before Christmas lol...
On topic, fantastic reviews! I'll be picking this up on day one. First time I've ever bought a Pokemon game on day one.
Yes, but this is something simplified for them. The past games become very complicated, imo (I love them and pokemon in general, but hell if i'd like to know the things happening off-screen in those games)
BTW, this game is not kids only, probably plenty of fun can be found for all ages. I said grumpy ERA not all ERA.
But the best thing is there is another full game coming, this is just the appetizer. I compare this thing to pokémon dash, and we know which is the bad one.
The post game in this game is by all accounts not good though? Especially for hardcore players?
Woah nicer scores than I expected. So many posts on ERA about how there's no gameplay etc.
Definitely picking up the game. Had it bombed score wise, would have passed because I was worried that the game was lacking gameplay wise.
Definitely picking up the game. Had it bombed score wise, would have passed because I was worried that the game was lacking gameplay wise.
The direction is sort of all over the place though. Removing held items/abilities, but leaving in more complicated stuff is just weird to me (why leave natures in for example?)
I'm all for it, but I'm not entirely pleased with how Let's Go is approaching it, and hope they do better for gen 8 as far as making things accessible but making sense too.
Also to be clear, I am buying this game and looking forward to it.
Review Threads in a nutshell. Most will react to the number of 7/10s, 8.9/10s and certain excerpts will get repeated throughout. It's a Pokemon thread too so it's extra obnoxious.
I'm not interested in this game to play it but I'm moreso interested in what they've changed in Kanto overall really.
This directly contradicts several reviews bringing up nostalgia (a thing that kids can't have for this game) as a positive thing. And how a Kanto game appeals more to younger audiences than a game with the Pokémon they actually know from TV?
I don't mind it if they like this game, but a lot of these reviews dismiss the removal of content like it's a minor thing over their personal nostalgia.
Seems about on par with what I expected: everything feels great, and it's simple fun, but not much to do once you beat the main journey.
I get the Master Trainers are supposed to be the post game, but having a one on one Pokemon battle with someone only to get a title sounds kind of boring.
I get the audience for this game, but it just feels like it tries to play it too safe. I would still love to play it, but I definitely think I will be waiting on a price drop/sale.
I get the Master Trainers are supposed to be the post game, but having a one on one Pokemon battle with someone only to get a title sounds kind of boring.
I get the audience for this game, but it just feels like it tries to play it too safe. I would still love to play it, but I definitely think I will be waiting on a price drop/sale.
But thats every game.
Every game has gen 1 nostalgia, every game is easy and has a cutesy artstyle. The only things this game actually does any different is remove depth and postgame difficulty, and add Lets Go mechanics. It also leaves out any appeal to any older non-gen 1 fans, but thats neither here nor there.
Based on the reviews it seems exactly as I feared it would be, it's not for me and I'll be passing on this. Hopefully a lot of the stuff from this doesn't make it into the 2019 game.