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JoeInky

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's a difference between being disappointed with the direct and being disappointed with the game.

People acting like being disappointed in a boring direct is throwing a hissy fit over the entire game.
 

Bowser

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Nov 7, 2017
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Only three new characters being introduced today made some people forget we're talking about a 74-man roster

It's fucking amazing
 

ChrisD

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So here's the inevitable question: was "Everyone is here!" worth only getting 6 newcomers in the base roster?

I honestly don't know which is worth more to me, vets or newcomers. Such a tough choice.

Everyone is Here is the best thing for a celebration like Smash.
 

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This thread has shown the disconnect between ultra-hardcore gamers and the masses.

Ultimate has an INSANE amount of content. Much of it NEW content. Every part of the game has been retouched. Several long Directs were required to show everything...and there's still secrets to be found.

Yet, somehow, you're disappointed because a bunch of characters that the average gamer doesn't remember or are unrealistic to expect aren't in the launch roster. And the single player mode isn't a whole other unique game. And you have to earn your way into the hardcore online mode.

Fun, value, and polish don't matter to you - just fanboying, and things that are the literal definition of nitpicking.

This game will sell a ton and everybody will love it...except you. -_-
The singleplayer stuff doesn't really appeal to me, I don't really have any people I can play local multiplayer with, the online format I pretty much exclusively used in Smash 4 is gone and even trophies are out. I'd spend hours reading through them learning about Nintendo IPs and characters I wasn't even aware of.

No doubt the game will be great for most (if not the vast majority of people) and I don't mean to undermine the monumental effort a game of this scale is for the dvelopment team, but there's just not much there for me personally at this point. Stings a bit, but it is what it is. I don't think it's entirely fair to label any and all dissent towards things as fanboyish nitpicking.
 

Regulus Tera

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Can I point out how I was right about the Echo Fighter branding being created just to make clones more palatable? Ken is essentially a Melee/Brawl style clone.
 

Boiled Goose

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Happy that single player is extensive.

Still have questions about peripheral modes.

Online is so basic it's disappointing. An amrs like party mode would have been fun.
 

Hailinel

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Wait.

WAIT.

Famicom Tantei Club and Xenoblade still have a chance as DLC! Ayumi and KOS-MOS. LET'S GO!
 

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Well, I'm a man of my word. Pretty disappointed in the direct. I wasn't fully expecting Grinch-levels of awesomeness, but I was hoping at least one hype character was in, of any kind. I don't think any of the new characters are hype at all (not to say they're bad, but no one is going to get excited if you tell them a Piranha Plant is in the game). Oh well.
 

Lunar15

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Part of me wishes that Geno was confirmed as an AT, because now I'm stuck in the DLC hype train until potentially 02/2020. My soul needs a break.

I think he's got a shot! As does Elma.

Isaac is stuck in AT land forever. ;_; (it's okay though)

Hey can we still just get Isaac's theme in the game? I think that's really what everyone wanted anyway.
 

DrROBschiz

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Adventure mode just seems like classic mode with spirits, I hope there's platforming.

There seems to be some kind of rpg world traversal and puzzle aspects but Im curious how the actual missions will be handled

Im not sure what variation we will see in those missions as far as platforming and exploration challenges are concerned but I hope they are there

Would be neat if they let this mode explore multiple scenarios and genres in gaming.
 

Jimnymebob

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Agreed. I think some people have really gotten carried away with the idea of who can/should be in Smash.

The constant thing every game where people take the last game as gospel, before everything changes, has amused me since Brawl.

"It's only Nintendo characters"
"Kept you waiting, huh?"

"It's only one character per 3rd Party"
"Ryu enters the battle"

"Generic enemies will never be playable"
"Piranha Plant joins the fight"
 

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Spirits, like stickers before them, are literally just whatever spare promo art they had lying around. I can gurantee you they aren't paying attention to what they used for those to rule out characters.
I mean, the fact we haven't seen a single spirit of a playable character just reeks to me. Yes, they're a super easy implementation, but that doesn't mean they're not carefully considered.
 
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One of my hopes for the DLC is that its generic enemies or known jobber enemies.

Moblin, Rattata, Space Pirate, Pigma, Kremling
 
Oct 25, 2017
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There very much is an adventure mode.

I didn't say there wasn't, I mainly was just expressing how I didn't like that Adventure and Event Match are both rolled into Spirits and it seems like that was to save time on developing separate modes. Again, too early to judge whether there will be enough content in Spirits to more than make up for it. Mainly just expressing concern.
 

Tavernade

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With so many highly requested characters being deconfirmed by ATs or Spirit Mode (ugh), what 5 characters are they actually going to create for DLC?

I imagine we're getting more third party picks. Insofar as first party (assuming spirits and costumes disqualify you) I haven't seen Dixie, Elma, Min Min, or Chorus Kids.
 

andresmoros

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Oct 29, 2017
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So what is the general consensus? Is everyone as disappointed as I am? Lamecineroar as last character on the roster (in the full game) is such a let down. Also sad that there are no trophies and that there is no platforming at all on the adventure mode. I will still buy the game, but why didn't they announced Simon and Richter today to end in a high note?
 

Lunar15

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Oct 25, 2017
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The roster's great, but lmao at Sakurai devoting time to brightness settings.

Dude's a madman.
 

Oscillator

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It's possible to be genuinely excited for the game and plan to play it for hours upon hours and still be disappointed in a lackluster direct that was focused mostly on Gatcha.

You say gacha, I say top notch fan service. You should be grateful and PUMPED to have all those obscure (including tons of third-party) references in a single game. And they're more useful now than the tedious trophy room.
 

PlanetSmasher

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I know. I'm saying it's amazing how they can pretend this is what got them off the Smash train when they weren't on it at all.

I'm not pretending at all. I was excited when the game was announced, and everything they've shown since has been a steady downslide of hype for me. I'm allowed to be disappointed when Smash is pretty much the only Nintendo franchise I'm still invested in.
 

BassForever

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So here's the inevitable question: was "Everyone is here!" worth only getting 6 newcomers in the base roster?

I honestly don't know which is worth more to me, vets or newcomers. Such a tough choice.

No

I would have gladly not had pichu, ivysaur, Squirtle, or young link for another base game newcomer.
 
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Did they list what all of the collectables are now that trophies are out?

I caught music and spirits (spirits being just stickers, right?), but was there anything else?

No trophies hurts more than Kencineroar. My soul is oofing right now.
 

drclaw411

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Mar 22, 2018
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I wasn't hoping for any of them specifically, but I'm really surprised that Geno, Skull Kid, Spring Man, and Rex are all deconfirmed. I 100% expected them for DLC.
 

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I think he's got a shot! As does Elma.

Isaac is stuck in AT land forever. ;_; (it's okay though)

Hey can we still just get Isaac's theme in the game? I think that's really what everyone wanted anyway.
Yeah, I was pulling for Isaac, but I will gladly just take some remixes. Your Shiekah Tower comment now wants me to have just GS music on rotation there.
 

CopperPuppy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mostly enjoyed the Direct. I didn't believe the leak, so I wasn't expecting that many more characters. The Spirit mode is a little too Gacha-y. Now that Nintendo opened that Pandoras Box, I guess we're stuck with Gacha. But the single player mode looks like a lot of fun! Leave it to Sakurai to make things even Kirbyer.

It was a bit disappointing that trophies got replaced with stickers, but I appreciated Sakurais honesty about the development costs for building all those models. Honestly, I feel bad for Sakurai. This game was clearly thrown together sort of last minute, and he's trying really hard to appease the hardcore fanbase. But they'll never be happy.
This game was "thrown together last minute"?

Lol what?
 

Weiss

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You say gacha, I say top notch fan service. You should be grateful and PUMPED to have all those obscure (including tons of third-party) references in a single game. And they're more useful now than the tedious trophy room.

It's a commercial product sold by a company for consumer use. I'm not going to be grateful for it. That's silly.
 

Speedlynx

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Nov 22, 2017
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Are you seriously saying that Pikmin and Xenoblade are more mainstream and hype than Ken, of Street Fighter and Incineroar, a freaking Pokemon?
Incineroar is not even a really popular pokemon, there were so many better gen VII options.

And Ken is literally a clone of Ryu even in his own games.

Edit - yooo I'm so salt in this thread rn. Lemme bow out before I get too heated w/ppl saying really dumb stuff
 
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Treestump

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Mar 28, 2018
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The constant thing every game where people take the last game as gospel, before everything changes, has amused me since Brawl.

"It's only Nintendo characters"
"Kept you waiting, huh?"

"It's only one character per 3rd Party"
"Ryu enters the battle"

"Generic enemies will never be playable"
"Piranha Plant joins the fight"
LOL.
 

Anth0ny

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Oct 25, 2017
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So here's the inevitable question: was "Everyone is here!" worth only getting 6 newcomers in the base roster?

I honestly don't know which is worth more to me, vets or newcomers. Such a tough choice.

it's worth it when those 6 newcomers are the best set of newcomers since melee

and the game can get out this quickly after the last one
 
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