Yeah it baffles me as well. The way some people talk you'd think that the PS4 and Xbox One had been catastrophic failures, and the market for stationary consoles had all but disappeared. The reality is completely different.
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PS4 hardware sell in has reached 86.1m
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Yeah it baffles me as well. The way some people talk you'd think that the PS4 and Xbox One had been catastrophic failures, and the market for stationary consoles had all but disappeared. The reality is completely different.
I like the quote as I do agree 2014 was weaker and I was envious of releases such as Sunset Overdrive and a bit disappointed with Second Son, but there were truly a lot of really good indies released that year, and Q1 2015 ended up being stacked. Good stuff!
Because we can't be in front of our TVs all day. I even forego playing because id rather be in bed or someplace else that's not in rfront of the tv. Convenience is such a seller
I think it is people who have self-created the idea that Media Create sales threads contain the most important figures for the health of the industry.
The fact is console sales have only slowed down there but have remained strong everywhere else. There is no need to go hybrid for Sony
It seems impossible to reach PS2 numbers, because who the hell can beat 155 million consoles. But if, and only if, PS4 reached $99 in the next 2 years, I think it would be doable. Of course, it might be a pipedream since Ps4 BOM cost must be way more than $99.
The people saying that basically wants Sony to do a big mistake because these people would never buy a portable gaming device if it's not a Nintendo. Nintendo owns that market, even if you beat them down the line on all specs and pricing you will lose in the marketplace. They want Sony to lose.
If you can buy a PS5, transfer all of your PS4 digital games to it day 1 Sony will keep killing it. First 2-3 years games available on both platforms except first party exclusives. They can keep year 1 prices at a level where supply matches demand and the PS4 is the cheaper option, and as time goes on reduce prices and have a 3-4 year conversion period.
Looks like its not mattering that much when you look at the sales
Considering the previous consoles 130 or 140 millions is more likely than 120 million.
It took 5 years and 9 months for PS2 to reach 100 million units sold and PS4 will beat this record. PS4 only reduced it's price a 25%, which is less than PS2 did and starting from a more expensive price. Next 2 years PS4 will be packed by great exclusives/marketing rights and we'll start to see the Spiderman and RDR2 effects now. It's very likely that PS5 won't be released until a couple of years from now, and that will be full BC. If there is BC and indies can put their games on PS5 by releasing them on PS4, PS4 will continue getting many games so it will have a post PS5 library very similar to the one that Switch got this year.
Sony always supported consoles (and they sold) after their successor release. They can marked PS4 or PS4 Pro as a low end, sub $200 PS5 due to BC and if they want by including PS5 games in PSNow. I think it's more likely to see 130 or 140 million but I think 150 may be possible
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I give sony a pass because they did a excelente job in the final year of the Ps3, so it wasn't a surprise that they took some time to launch goods games again.
Thanks for the correction ZhugeEX I thought that with this report circulating around twitter and EA stating there would be 130 million consoles sold by end of 2018 and PS4 announcing PS4's at 86 million that given that consoles sell 3 to 4 million total in the coming months it was fair to say PS4 would be 90 million by end of 2018 and XB1 40 million by end of 2018. Making the 36.40M plausible.
But you cleared that doubt, if you want I can retract the report.
My guess is 120M but idk.
No way it hits PS2. Maybe if it had sold 20M annually for the whole gen (2014-now) because PS2 has multiple 20m+ years right?
No way it hits PS2. Maybe if it had sold 20M annually for the whole gen (2014-now) because PS2 has multiple 20m+ years right?
Or if it included a UHD player probably.
The guy in line in front of me at RDR2 launch said he bought a One S instead of a PS4 because of that reason.
Fixed costs (like HDDs) almost ensure consoles won't hit $99 again. Wii was probably the last of that and it only did it with an extremely scaled back revision (top loader, no wifi/online, composite only, no GC support, cheaper plastics, etc). And besides that you have to go back to Gamecube and PS2 to find $99 consoles.
*rolls eyes* I provided a reason why anyone would want PS5 to be a hybrid. I didn't say a non-hybrid wouldn't sell.
Some of us have shit to do and can't be in the living room all day like you.
Yeah of course it won't, but I am pretty sure any mainline PlayStation is gonna sell whether or not it's a hybrid, don't you agree? If PS5 becomes a hybrid like the Switch, do you think people are not gonna buy it? The biggest hitters in the market aren't the 4k supersampled games.
The prices look ok but for November 2020. I'm 99% sure PS5 won't be released in 2019 or early 2020. PS4 lineup for 2019 and 2020 is too strong, current PS4 sales too, and AMD components won't be ready for 2019. And a PS4 sold at 2019 or 2020 will be way more profitable than a PS5 launch so they will push PS4 as far as they can before shifting their sales focus to PS5.
So only Switch owners are saying this nonsense? It's definitely not cling from the majority of home console owners. You must wondering why you can't can't play Red Dead Redemption 2 on the potty.
If that were true then then the Xbox platforms would be lighting up the sales charts. The fact is the masses dont care about UHD Blu-Rays since streaming/digital copies exist
Those aren't actual hardware sales, they're GPU orders aren't they?
Isn't it better to keep momentum rather than waiting for sells to drop? I mean right now that's not a concern but no way they wait till their momentum stops to drop the price. You have to be proactive!Titan God mode
Fucking hell man. Are you serious?
Also this.
Only drop price at the last possible moment when sales start dwindling.
Yes. Maybe 2018 numbers are bigger because they also included consoles still to be manufactured this year.
Besides being really rude, you make the assumption that people have lots of time to play games elsewhere, to the extent of sacrificing performance and convenience at home for a hybrid.
Congratulations, Sony. All that remains to be seen is how far above 100M lifetime sales will be.
The consumer has spoken, and he's telling us UHD Blu-Ray isn't a feature that he cares about, at all.
The consumer has spoken, and he's telling us UHD Blu-Ray isn't a feature that he cares about, at all.
Almost 90M units sold.. And Last of Us 2 isn't even out yet.
I'm very curious to see how many units TLOU2 is gonna move.. Either way this means that PS5 is still 2 years away, sounds like #team2019 gave up
I'm very curious to see how many units TLOU2 is gonna move.. Either way this means that PS5 is still 2 years away, sounds like #team2019 gave up
That's what i thought too.
Based on the report being orders and not hardware sold yet, it looks correct to me.
Some people want convienence but I also think some come from the perspective of wanting Sony to be competitive in Japan again, which they won't ever be without a hybrid or handheld. It's also worth noting a hybrid doesn't need to take the exact route Switch does, they could still have a powerful stationary box with a smaller breakaway handheld unit or accessory. Think along the lines of Pocketstation or a Wii U Gamepad or something but more modern and better integrated. Maybe this could be combined with PSVR2 too.
a smartass response begets that kind of response, yes.
ikr right too bad I don't have windows 10 on my laptop. remote play really is a game-changer for a lot of people. too bad you either need a vita or a laptop to do it. the Switch idea is really genius. you can play docked or you can play handheld.
Not necessarily.
I do think it could have helped Somy move 10-20m more units up front for movie buff types who also game, though, which would put them close to 100m now.
they kinda are, with FGO
and even if you look at traditional video game market, total SW sales (YTD) on PS4 not so far from NSW in Japan (this and last year)
But its nots powerful enough to handle most AAA games. Fine if you want to play mario or kirby etc...but.......
Numbers from Sony and Nintendo include all games. Numbers from Media Create rankings only include the few best selling ones. So these numbers are more accurate than the Media Create ones.
I don't understand why people think they would discontinue the Pro when the PS5 releases. If anything I expect them to kill the base and lower the price of the pro to $199 with the PS5 at $399. The gap in performance between the base PS4 and PS5 would be so huge I expect that it would hamper developers. By having the pro the new base it would ease development but still allow the new shiny console to shine since it should still be significantly more powerful than the pro.
I can't imagine the manufacturing cost of the pro next year or in 2020 to be that significant over then base PS4.
I can't imagine the manufacturing cost of the pro next year or in 2020 to be that significant over then base PS4.
