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Flashback at MGS4 TGS '05 demo - will that kind of realtime rendering be ever possible on console?
- Thread starter MBS
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Getting from this:
To this:
Was a significant downgrade in my eyes. Take a look around his shoulders, bandana, eye patch and edges around his fingers. To me the final Snake model was a definite downgrade over the 2005 demo.
I don't think the HDR they're talking about is the same kind of HDR we know today. For one HDR displays weren't a thing in 2005 let alone the finalized standards we have now.
In fact tons of games look better than this. Hell, MGS V looks better than this.
In fact tons of games look better than this. Hell, MGS V looks better than this.
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I know my words might've been perceived differently from what i actually wanted to express in this thread, but i just had that idea spinning around my head since a long ass time ago and i just wanted to document it here. I don't say i'm 100% right on this, nor that the 2005 demo is better looking than e.g, DMC5 or that i'm not aware about better techniques as Ray-Tracing. That's not debatable. And i didn't necessarily talk about a pure technical standpoint, but about the overall aesthetics and beauty of this demo which i still believe are hardly surpassed about a videogame even of this day and age.
What i've felt about it was basically this:
OK my bad then, still have my doubts it was realtime way back tho. In case of Killzone 2 I know it never was.
That was NOT the point of your OP. Let me remind you:
edit: I see your post above...you worded your argument terribly if all you are talking about is special feelings.
Found this on beyond3D, so looks like early kits had a 6800's in SLI, and yeah both the 6800 and 7800 were 256 bit cards.
PS3 Evaluation Kit (Codename: Cytology):
* CPU: Cell @ 2.4GHz
* GPU: SLI NVIDIA 6800 Ultras
* Memory: 512MB XDR
* Bus System: PCI Express
Note: This model has the reduced case size, the extra 256MB XDR, and the rumored SLI Nvidia 6800 Ultra graphic cards.
PS3 Alpha Dev-Kit:
* CPU: Cell @ 2.4GHz
* GPU: NVIDIA 7800 GTX
* Memory: 512MB of XDR
* Bus System: 16x PCI Express
Note: SLI Configuration models are also rumored (PS3 UT2007).
PS3 Alpha Dev-Kit (Model 2):
* CPU: Cell @ 3.2GHz
* GPU: NVIDIA 7800 GTX
* Memory: 512MB of XDR
* Bus System: 16x PCI Express
Note: A rumored model that contains a 3.2GHz Cell CPU.
PS3 Reference Tool:
* CPU: Cell @ 3.2GHz
* GPU: RSX
* Memory: 512MB XDR
* Bus System: FlexIO
* IO Devices: Blu-Ray Drive & HDD
PS3 Final Dev-Kit (Fine Tuned To Spec):
Note: Rumored to be released in Mid-February or early March 2006.
Is OP a time traveler? I'd argue that real time MGSV on the 360 already looks significantly better than the MGS4 render videos.
Compared to
I guess the MGS4 E3 trailer has a higher polycount and runs in native 720p, but the idea that it's somehow an unattainable CG standard is hilarious. I'm not even going to comment on the current gen comparisons.
Compared to
I guess the MGS4 E3 trailer has a higher polycount and runs in native 720p, but the idea that it's somehow an unattainable CG standard is hilarious. I'm not even going to comment on the current gen comparisons.
Lol modern games look way better than this, OP
The entire thread is a sham
When you move a goalpost you're supposed to move it farther away, not closer.
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Always preferred the colour grading in the trailer to the desaturated shit show that ended up in the final game.
Watching the TGS trailer after so many years and man, the first person soldier POV to third person camera transition is still incredible, ditto for the final shot of Snake running off in slow-mo before the MGS4 title card.
Remaster this so I can play it again, ain't nobody got time for those chapter installs.
Watching the TGS trailer after so many years and man, the first person soldier POV to third person camera transition is still incredible, ditto for the final shot of Snake running off in slow-mo before the MGS4 title card.
Remaster this so I can play it again, ain't nobody got time for those chapter installs.
They surpass those graphics in the ps360 era.
MGS5 is way better visually.
That tech demo was amazing directed thought.
MGS5 is way better visually.
That tech demo was amazing directed thought.
You know in all seriousness I wonder how hard that would be remembering all the hype about how specialized this engine was being made especially tailored to the cell.
No idea, I guess it could be a similar situation to the ZOE HD ports where the PS2's crazy fill rate, iirc, was a bit of a headache to match? Someone mentioned in this thread the CELL beating a PS4 CPU at cloth rendering. I could live without wicked accurate cloth in a potential remaster or just do a full remake pls Konami (MGS3 first tho), fox engine it, I saw your pachinko MGS3 videos, you still got some talent there.
Those pictures are only evidence that Snakes model could look unfortunate if contorted into certain poses. The model is identical shoulders down.
I'm old enough to remember being amazed by the CGI cutscenes in Residel Evil 2, thinking they were so realistic.
Those cutscenes were pretty much standard character model quality by the time PS2 was released
