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Oxyrain

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think EZA should also look at they type of stuff the LoadingReadyRun crew are doing and how they have setup. I don't follow either too closely, but they seem to produce a wide variety of content with consistent sponsorships, and have a supporter base willing to chip in extra for their bigger projects. Although maybe KF is a better model as it is a similar scale operation.
 

Qudi

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Jul 26, 2018
5,323
I will start supporting them by the end of the month on Patreon. Every single video is a bless. I should be ashamed that I didn't know about them when they were at Gametrailers.
 
Oct 27, 2017
866
User Banned (1 week): Drive-by trolling. History of similar behaviour.
Watching KF Games Daily, I'd love something like that once they're settled in the studio, and have the time to do it, but feel like it would take away the purpose of the podcast.

A Note About EZA Daily

After bringing up some key issues with the Easy Allies Daily Show, it's been decided to put the series to rest. We've discussed a few ideas for how to take some of the appeal of this show and apply it to some future ideas (like a weekly recap/highlight video and holding a vote for the top moments of the month and presenting it live), but the daily iteration of this show is ending.

The conclusion is that for how much effort it takes to produce they're not worth the payoff. Right now, only I host the daily show. It was an idea I wanted to try, but I never had any intention of staying as the sole host of this show, especially as my workload has increased. I proposed that other Allies step in each day to join me. However with how busy everyone's workload has gotten, especially as we enter the busiest time of year for us with review coverage, this wouldn't work out.

We are at a point where we need to be more selective about what we're producing as we're pretty strapped for time. Obviously, if fans still want to make their own daily show, we encourage that. I appreciate the support and effort from those of you who participated in submitting topics over the past few weeks for this show. This wouldn't have been possible without that help.

L&R

- Damiani
 

abrack

Unshakable Resolve
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,788
DFW
A Note About EZA Daily

After bringing up some key issues with the Easy Allies Daily Show, it's been decided to put the series to rest. We've discussed a few ideas for how to take some of the appeal of this show and apply it to some future ideas (like a weekly recap/highlight video and holding a vote for the top moments of the month and presenting it live), but the daily iteration of this show is ending.

The conclusion is that for how much effort it takes to produce they're not worth the payoff. Right now, only I host the daily show. It was an idea I wanted to try, but I never had any intention of staying as the sole host of this show, especially as my workload has increased. I proposed that other Allies step in each day to join me. However with how busy everyone's workload has gotten, especially as we enter the busiest time of year for us with review coverage, this wouldn't work out.

We are at a point where we need to be more selective about what we're producing as we're pretty strapped for time. Obviously, if fans still want to make their own daily show, we encourage that. I appreciate the support and effort from those of you who participated in submitting topics over the past few weeks for this show. This wouldn't have been possible without that help.

L&R

- Damiani

This is a bad post.
 

Tight Shoe

Banned
Jun 7, 2018
396
EZA Clips was a lazy, cop-out way of doing what they should have done themselves in the first place, or paid someone else to do, and they couldn't even keep up doing that. it deserves to be called out.
 

munchie64

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,543
EZA Clips was a lazy, cop-out way of doing what they should have done themselves in the first place, or paid someone else to do, and they couldn't even keep up doing that. it deserves to be called out.
I mean, if they can't manage to do the "lazy" version, I'm sure you can figure out why they haven't done the other way.
 

spman2099

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Oct 25, 2017
10,893
EZA Clips was a lazy, cop-out way of doing what they should have done themselves in the first place, or paid someone else to do, and they couldn't even keep up doing that. it deserves to be called out.

Some of these hot takes are really, really shitty. By all accounts, they are all overworked, so calling the allies "lazy" is a pretty callous and shitty thing to do. As for paying someone else to do the show, they need to be careful with their money. They aren't in a position where they can just throw money at any perceived problem. You being upset doesn't mean that you shouldn't think your posts through a little better before lashing out.
 

Hasney

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,637
EZA Clips was a lazy, cop-out way of doing what they should have done themselves in the first place, or paid someone else to do, and they couldn't even keep up doing that. it deserves to be called out.

Oh OK. So who should take the pay cut, or what show should be dropped to accommodate that?

This is the laziest take I've seen.
 

MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
2,303
Belgium
Not the first time ive seen trinity be a baby in this thread lol
That's true (it was bad at some points), but it has been some time since it happened. I thought they were doing ok the last few months (except if I misremembering something). That said, it was still a weird/shitty thing to post.

EZA Clips was a lazy, cop-out way of doing what they should have done themselves in the first place, or paid someone else to do, and they couldn't even keep up doing that. it deserves to be called out.
I honestly don't think you realize how much work it is to select the best clips each week (let alone making them all themselves which would mean to watch ALL their streams), and then cut them together. I think it would take way more time then we can imagine and if you are working on other, bigger projects, I can see how it can hack into the time you are working in those.
I would prefer for them to keep doing EZA Clips, I love those episodes, but to call it lazy means you don't really understand what needs to be done to complete these episodes each week. Also, I don't understand how you can't see that doing it themselves is almost impossible to do. Somebody needs to watch streams all week to find the best moments. That's a full-time job, they are strapped for time as is.

If you think you can do better, go ahead and create it yourself each week. The clips are available on Twitch. It depends on how many clips people are going to keep submitting for this to be a good comparison (because I think it's the amount of Clips Damiani had to go through each week that was the problem), but nobody is stopping you from creating it yourself.

A history of telling rubbish jokes? Get 'im!
I get that this can possibly be considered a joke (even though I don't see it that way, I see this as an attack at Damiani), but I'm sure it's the history of shitty behaviour that did this (to be fair, I do think it has been some time since it happened). Stuff like this can happen if you paint a target on your own back for years.
 
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JayC3

bork bork
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
3,857
Whoo! Looks like this month's Top 10 is dropping at 9AM PT (per easyallies.com). How much salt do you all think it'll generate this time? xp
 

Karu

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,002
Top 10 Cancelled Dami... oh, ehm... nevermind! :(

But alas... I'm ready for a new Top 10-list! Hopefully it is spicey... :D
 

Charamiwa

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Oct 25, 2017
6,058
With their studio, the KF crew all come in the morning to produce their daily shows, you have people working on editing and other shows in the back, someone producing the shows at all times... That's what a studio mean to me. Obviously I don't want the Allies to come in at 8 am everyday or something, there's still plenty of wiggle room when you're self employed, but still, some structure. I really hope the studio won't just be a literal replacement for the garage like some have implied.

There's still a lot we don't know anyway, the next few months will be very interesting.
 

Karu

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,002
With their studio, the KF crew all come in the morning to produce their daily shows, you have people working on editing and other shows in the back, someone producing the shows at all times... That's what a studio mean to me. Obviously I don't want the Allies to come in at 8 am everyday or something, there's still plenty of wiggle room when you're self employed, but still, some structure. I really hope the studio won't just be a literal replacement for the garage like some have implied.

There's still a lot we don't know anyway, the next few months will be very interesting.
I think this goes beyond speculation and implications, though. Jones was very upfront about what the studio would be on Cup of Jones.

I am generally with you on this, but this is a stage too far/big for EZA I guess, as of right now.
 

FUNKNOWN iXi

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,608
With their studio, the KF crew all come in the morning to produce their daily shows, you have people working on editing and other shows in the back, someone producing the shows at all times... That's what a studio mean to me. Obviously I don't want the Allies to come in at 8 am everyday or something, there's still plenty of wiggle room when you're self employed, but still, some structure. I really hope the studio won't just be a literal replacement for the garage like some have implied.

There's still a lot we don't know anyway, the next few months will be very interesting.
Over the past couple of years they have made it seem like a studio would be a significant change of things that would allow them to be more like they were at GT in terms of work flow and Allies presence in one singular spot, but over the past couple of months I've been getting the impression that there's now a distinction between a "studio" and an "office" environment, with the office being more of what people thought the studio was going to be for.

If the studio is literally just a replacement for the garage, then I think there's been some misleading (surely unintentionally) and false expectations rightfully built up by people. If the Allies won't be spending more time together now that they will have a studio when compared to their time spent together at Jones' garage, then the studio hardly seems worth the investment as opposed to everyone just getting pay raises.

I guess at some point though they needed to move on from Jones' garage, so hopefully this actually does lead to tangible improvements for EZA and their fans/viewers/contributors. Either way, looking forward to whatever the future brings with the studio :]
 

Bloodworth

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Oct 28, 2017
797
I honestly think the reason it seems hard to picture is because the studio is going to be unlike anything we've ever had before,. We are primarily looking for a production space rather than an office space, but there may be some shared workstations if there's room. We won't all be getting desks and clocking in/out, but we'll certainly be there more than we go to Brandon's. Even if it were "just a replacement" for the garage, you'd still see a ton of improvement, particularly with audio as we won't be essentially shooting outside with airplanes and firetrucks going by. The place we're looking at now is pretty freaking great. So even if we don't get it, it's going to serve as a model for other places we look at.
 

Remember Me

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Apr 3, 2018
273
Spain
Over the past couple of years they have made it seem like a studio would be a significant change of things that would allow them to be more like they were at GT in terms of work flow and Allies presence in one singular spot, but over the past couple of months I've been getting the impression that there's now a distinction between a "studio" and an "office" environment, with the office being more of what people thought the studio was going to be for.

If the studio is literally just a replacement for the garage, then I think there's been some misleading (surely unintentionally) and false expectations rightfully built up by people. If the Allies won't be spending more time together now that they will have a studio when compared to their time spent together at Jones' garage, then the studio hardly seems worth the investment as opposed to everyone just getting pay raises.

I guess at some point though they needed to move on from Jones' garage, so hopefully this actually does lead to tangible improvements for EZA and their fans/viewers/contributors. Either way, looking forward to whatever the future brings with the studio :]
I 100% agree with this.
 

Hasney

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,637
I honestly think the reason it seems hard to picture is because the studio is going to be unlike anything we've ever had before,. We are primarily looking for a production space rather than an office space, but there may be some shared workstations if there's room. We won't all be getting desks and clocking in/out, but we'll certainly be there more than we go to Brandon's. Even if it were "just a replacement" for the garage, you'd still see a ton of improvement, particularly with audio as we won't be essentially shooting outside with airplanes and firetrucks going by. The place we're looking at now is pretty freaking great. So even if we don't get it, it's going to serve as a model for other places we look at.

Maybe you guys could then stream loud enough so you can hear the audio properly while us viewers get no echo! A man can dream... ahaha
 

Bloodworth

Member
Oct 28, 2017
797
Maybe you guys could then stream loud enough so you can hear the audio properly while us viewers get no echo! A man can dream... ahaha
Seriously though, I don't really watch other streamers, but I'm curious how many people even attempt to do the kind of group streams we do. It's an entirely different beast. With a solo stream, you just stick on a headset and that problem's solved.
 

TheDarkKnight

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,540
People keep thinking getting a studio = back to GT level, and I've never thought that to be the case.

Brandon has been very clear what the studio brings them and all the benefits they're excited about. And it'll be much more than just "same thing but not in the garage"

- more space for producing the shows they do
- permanent setups for their shows that don't require tear downs / build ups every time (saves time, more consistent set up)
- easier to collaborate and more collaboration since it's not someone's home
- frees Brandon up to do production work while others do shoots
- has AC

The net result is faster productivity, higher quality and more collaboration

Seriously though, I don't really watch other streamers, but I'm curious how many people even attempt to do the kind of group streams we do. It's an entirely different beast. With a solo stream, you just stick on a headset and that problem's solved.

I'd love if EZA could get a setup like Maximillian dood's at some point. I'm not sure how he does it because I know he's pretty obsessed on a tech level but he does weekend group streams where they can hear the game audio w/o echo, no headsets and can support all the peak yelling and screaming they do. It's the closest thing to EZA group streams.
 
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Brot

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Oct 25, 2017
6,078
the edge
I honestly think the reason it seems hard to picture is because the studio is going to be unlike anything we've ever had before,. We are primarily looking for a production space rather than an office space, but there may be some shared workstations if there's room. We won't all be getting desks and clocking in/out, but we'll certainly be there more than we go to Brandon's. Even if it were "just a replacement" for the garage, you'd still see a ton of improvement, particularly with audio as we won't be essentially shooting outside with airplanes and firetrucks going by. The place we're looking at now is pretty freaking great. So even if we don't get it, it's going to serve as a model for other places we look at.

How exactly is it going to change the content and output? Because it sounds like everything is going to stay the same in that regard and it's just the couch and table getting a nice backdrop.
 

Hasney

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,637
Seriously though, I don't really watch other streamers, but I'm curious how many people even attempt to do the kind of group streams we do. It's an entirely different beast. With a solo stream, you just stick on a headset and that problem's solved.

I know Giant Bomb use high quality lapel mics that don't pick up a lot of the sound, but that's must be nice CBS money.

Having a soundproofed studio might work wonders though, just being able to have the audio much lower as it's not competing with the ambient noise might be enough for the shotgun mics to not pick them up
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
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Over the past couple of years they have made it seem like a studio would be a significant change of things that would allow them to be more like they were at GT in terms of work flow and Allies presence in one singular spot, but over the past couple of months I've been getting the impression that there's now a distinction between a "studio" and an "office" environment, with the office being more of what people thought the studio was going to be for.

If the studio is literally just a replacement for the garage, then I think there's been some misleading (surely unintentionally) and false expectations rightfully built up by people. If the Allies won't be spending more time together now that they will have a studio when compared to their time spent together at Jones' garage, then the studio hardly seems worth the investment as opposed to everyone just getting pay raises.

I guess at some point though they needed to move on from Jones' garage, so hopefully this actually does lead to tangible improvements for EZA and their fans/viewers/contributors. Either way, looking forward to whatever the future brings with the studio :]
To be honest the concept of EZA moving to a studio has been fairly nebulous, all this time I haven't really understood what could be the major advantages and improvements that it would bring. Besides "Get out of house, you darn kids!", of course. :P I guess it's more of a step towards the next stage, and formalizing what they currently have. Basically enabling professional mode. I'm sure the allies know and have all sorts of plans and ideas, but I don't think this stuff has really been communicated. Maybe someone could point to a Cup of Jones I may have missed.

Put me in the camp that at some point (mistakenly) thought it would be more of an office space of sorts, which honestly never made sense to be honest, which is why I never understood why they wanted the studio so much.
 

demu

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Oct 26, 2017
2,719
Germany
We still need confirmation if Huber died more than three times in Spider-Man. If not, Kyle must be ashamed of his words and deeds, but I forgot what Huber has to do if he loses. Anyone?
 

TheDarkKnight

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,540
We still need confirmation if Huber died more than three times in Spider-Man. If not, Kyle must be ashamed of his words and deeds, but I forgot what Huber has to do if he loses. Anyone?
I believe he has to wear a bandaid on a group stream?

I don't see how Huber doesn't lose that bet. The game pushes back a lot early on.
 

Hasney

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,637
I think it was specifically outside of boss fights? Can't remember though.
 

TheDarkKnight

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,540
Yeah, I think I already died three times in the first boss fight.
Same. And part of that was I kept hitting triangle like the Arkham games to do the counter/dodge and not O

I think it was specifically outside of boss fights? Can't remember though.
Correct but I had more trouble outside boss fights early on. When you get those big guys running you down it gets dicey
 

sora87

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,866
I believe he has to wear a bandaid on a group stream?

I don't see how Huber doesn't lose that bet. The game pushes back a lot early on.

I died more to random groups of thugs than bosses which was weird to me haha.
There were some sections where i died a lot just because i didn't know where to swing to next too which made me laugh.
The prison break scene and the scorpion trip sequence especially.
 

False Witness

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,240
I got my butt shot to death multiple times in the third act. Literally had four dudes with rifles and two turrets spamming me with bullets all at the exact same time. You couldn't dodge out of some of that stuff.
 

jondgc

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Oct 25, 2017
1,208
It's a joke about a cancellation of something that doesn't even exist. There is absolutely nothing there to be offended by. Nothing.

It just comes across as really petty and doesn't add anything to the conversation. The whole clips situation has been, albeit surprisingly, a very touchy subject for a lot of fans in the group. Even if it was a joke with tongue firmly in cheek, its only purpose it to further stir the pot, when it's probably best if the community begins to move on instead of dissecting this decision from every possible angle. Additionally, many Allies read this thread and Damiani has posted here before, and I'm sure he can "read the room" when it comes to people's feelings on what certainly was already a difficult decision for the Allies and himself personally. It does nothing to pile on at his expense, especially when no one understands exactly the time constraints the Allies face besides the nine themselves.

So it's probably time to move on and get back to some good vibes. This isn't the first, and won't be the last decision that riles up the community, but this has really run its course.
 

klastical

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Oct 29, 2017
4,712
To be honest the concept of EZA moving to a studio has been fairly nebulous, all this time I haven't really understood what could be the major advantages and improvements that it would bring. Besides "Get out of house, you darn kids!", of course. :P I guess it's more of a step towards the next stage, and formalizing what they currently have. Basically enabling professional mode. I'm sure the allies know and have all sorts of plans and ideas, but I don't think this stuff has really been communicated. Maybe someone could point to a Cup of Jones I may have missed.

Put me in the camp that at some point (mistakenly) thought it would be more of an office space of sorts, which honestly never made sense to be honest, which is why I never understood why they wanted the studio so much.
I just dont see how having a dedicated streaming room is going to be the best way to use the space they have. Unless theres going to be streaming 5 days a week it seems unnecessary to me. I get the appeal of not having to move around stuff for different setups but if there just going to be using this room for group streams and full playthrough fridays it seems like a waste. I trust the allies though and I'm sure they will ultimately do whatever works best for them.
 
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