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I don't know why I find this stuff so entertaining but is any of this stuff legitimate? Younger Dryas impact cataclysm, lost Gobekli Tepe civilizations, Egypt being an Atlantis colony, etc. I'm sure it's all on a spectrum that goes from "probably believable but we don't know" to "lmao no" but I'm wondering how much of it is mainstream and not just YouTube clickbait. All those Joe Rogan Graham Hancock episodes are fun to watch anyway lol.

Also this was deep....


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Historians >>>>>>> Joe Rogan and random youtubers

Hard history is complex and not sexy. There's not too many crop circles and secret underwater cities.

EDIT: actually some of it is pretty sexy, so that wasn't fair
 
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Graham Hancock? None of his shit his believable.
I feel like the more public the venue he is speaking at is the less insane he sounds. Like on Joe Rogan's podcast he says some alternative stuff but nothing totally out there.

But then you watch some other video where he is giving a presentation to a room of 19 people and he's talking about psychic abilities used to move blocks to build the pyramids lol.
 

Rosen

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Already too deep in it....

Anyway some are less nonsense than others at least. I like the ones that seem plausible and not the 'did aliens build this???' filth.

edit: ^ lol
I imagine a fool and his money is apt? Of course not otherwise i'm actually Queen of England....
 

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My oh my. Do yourself a favour and read actual history books instead of polluting your mind with those retards' inanities.
 

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Gobekli Tepe isn't some 'lost' civilisation, it's just old, very basic but technically urban architecture.

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It revised the time scale of when we think humans began settling into relatively 'permanent' dwellings with such advanced technology as walls and standing stones, and invites questions as to how widespread such a level of development may have been - whether it's just a regional thing or could be expected further throughout human colonisation at the time. But it doesn't make Atlantis a thing. Meanwhile the dating of the Sphinx is an issue of how we don't have direct evidence of such, and instead must work with written references for what ruler it's associated with, and the typology of the building style. Many do believe it is older still than the 4500-ish mark currently given to it, whether for conspiratorial 'It comes from a civilization before Egypt!' musings or not generally accepted but technically possible theories like the erosion on the enclosure wall being water derived (whether or not it is, or if such actually implies an older date, subject to debate) meaning the Sphinx must be pre-desertification, and thus, far older than believed right now.
 

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Basically, the Pyramids and the Sphinx could be older than we think but don't take anything Graham Hancock says seriously, he is not qualified to be speaking on the subject.
 
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Basically, the Pyramids and the Sphinx could be older than we think but don't take anything Graham Hancock says seriously, he is not qualified to be speaking on the subject.
Yeah it's only a fun listen for me I'm not actually assuming he is right about any of this nonsense. Just wondering if any of the less zany theories (not his own) have any credibility.

I mean pyramids and all that stuff was taught by the Predators who came to earth ya know?
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Yeah it's only a fun listen for me I'm not actually assuming he is right about any of this nonsense. Just wondering if any of the less zany theories (not his own) have any credibility.
I've never actually seen Water Erosion Theory, categorically debunked, personally. It's actually a possibility, if a not very likely one.
 
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Gobekli Tepe isn't some 'lost' civilisation, it's just old, very basic but technically urban architecture.

Here

It revised the time scale of when we think humans began settling into relatively 'permanent' dwellings with such advanced technology as walls and standing stones, and invites questions as to how widespread such a level of development may have been - whether it's just a regional thing or could be expected further throughout human colonisation at the time. But it doesn't make Atlantis a thing. Meanwhile the dating of the Sphinx is an issue of how we don't have direct evidence of such, and instead must work with written references for what ruler it's associated with, and the typology of the building style. Many do believe it is older still than the 4500-ish mark currently given to it, whether for conspiratorial 'It comes from a civilization before Egypt!' musings or not generally accepted but technically possible theories like the erosion on the enclosure wall being water derived (whether or not it is, or if such actually implies an older date, subject to debate) meaning the Sphinx must be pre-desertification, and thus, far older than believed right now.
I've never actually seen Water Erosion Theory, categorically debunked, personally. It's actually a possibility, if a not very likely one.
If true would this have any implication beyond "well I guess it's a bit older then"? Would it just mean the builders were some earlier dynasty than is commonly thought?

Clearly it's a leap from "its older" to "Atlantians built it" or whatever Hancock is thinking.
 

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Don't know anything about the Egypt being an Atlantis colony theory but I'm pretty sure it's real and mainstream.
 

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If true would this have any implication beyond "well I guess it's a bit older then"? Would it just mean the builders were some earlier dynasty than is commonly thought?

Clearly it's a leap from "its older" to "Atlantians built it" or whatever Hancock is thinking.
It's just age. It wasn't built by a different civilisation.
 

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Egypt as an Atlantis colony? Isn't that technically a racist theory?

Egyptian civilisation and monuments are lauded as some of the greatest of human history. And Atlantis is commonly thought (if it did exist) as an advanced white society. To say one of the greatest African societies our world owes its achievements to white civilisation is incredibly offensive.
 
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Egypt as an Atlantis colony? Isn't that technically a racist theory?

Egyptian civilisation and monuments are lauded as some of the greatest of human history. And Atlantis is commonly thought (if it did exist) as an advanced white society. To say one of the greatest African societies our world owes its achievements to white civilisation is incredibly offensive.

That's another level of silly
 
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Egypt as an Atlantis colony? Isn't that technically a racist theory?

Egyptian civilisation and monuments are lauded as some of the greatest of human history. And Atlantis is commonly thought (if it did exist) as an advanced white society. To say one of the greatest African societies our world owes its achievements to white civilisation is incredibly offensive.
I've never heard that. Ironically the second video in the OP is claiming Atlantis was in the Sahara Desert so if anything that would be the opposite of what you're mentioning lol.