Yeah you're right, I fucked up the dates.
It's easy to fantasize about what Daisy and Dark Samus would be like if they were given the Isabelle treatment, but at the same time you have to recognize that they wouldn't be playable at all if they weren't echo fighters. Isabelle exists on a completely separate plane from those characters.
Because he has the lowest appeal on a broader scale and doesnt really line up with well... nearly all the cast besides Daisy. Neither party gets anything out of Geno and SE leans closer to the marketing side of character choices
Because he has the lowest appeal on a broader scale and doesnt really line up with well... nearly all the cast besides Daisy. Neither party gets anything out of Geno and SE leans closer to the marketing side of character choices
Swap Skull Kid and Geno out for two third parties and you're looking at my current prediction list.
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does this make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
It's easy to fantasize about what Daisy and Dark Samus would be like if they were given the Isabelle treatment, but at the same time you have to recognize that they wouldn't be playable at all if they weren't echo fighters. Isabelle exists on a completely separate plane from those characters.
There's a difference between recognition and importance. Ridley, K. Rool, the Belmonts, Dark Samus, and Chrom are super integral to the games they appear in.I know people like to shit on Daisy all the time in this thread for some reason, and I don't know why Era can't handle her being an absolutely massive character. She's bigger than Ridley, K. Rool, the Belmonts, Dark Samus and Chrom combined. The only one who measures up to her is Isabelle.
Because he has the lowest appeal on a broader scale and doesnt really line up with well... nearly all the cast besides Daisy.
I know people like to shit on Daisy all the time in this thread for some reason, and I don't know why Era can't handle her being an absolutely massive character. She's bigger than Ridley, K. Rool, the Belmonts, Dark Samus and Chrom combined. The only one who measures up to her is Isabelle.
It's more a matter of no one really being left in Square's catalog who's been desired by the Smash community if Dragon Quest ends up not panning out, though I think Sakurai will try for DQ first and foremost.
Crono isn't happening. Aya Brea isn't happening. Fei Fong Wong isn't happening. Another FF rep isn't happening. Who's left if not Geno, who has cult appeal, Sakurai's own affection for the character, and no one else really getting in his way?
There's a difference between recognition and importance. Ridley, K. Rool, the Belmonts, Dark Samus, and Chrom are super integral to the games they appear in.
Skull Kid's chances has nothing to do with Loz18.Skull Kid isn't happening. He's a newcomer I didn't know I wanted, but loz's credibility is pretty much nil imo.
There's a difference between recognition and importance. Ridley, K. Rool, the Belmonts, Dark Samus, and Chrom are super integral to the games they appear in.
Let me clarify. He doesnt even measure up to Daisy
How desired is Isabelle to the community and why did they throw a shit fit over her being a newcomer, despite having broad appeal beyond them? The community isnt the end all be all, and quite frankly, Isaac looks unlikely despite charting really well
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does this make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does this make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
I know people like to shit on Daisy all the time in this thread for some reason, and I don't know why Era can't handle her being an absolutely massive character. She's bigger than Ridley, K. Rool, the Belmonts, Dark Samus and Chrom combined. The only one who measures up to her is Isabelle.
-Moon Assist Trophy not being summoned by Skull Kid makes zero senseCan you clarify what you mean? I hope this has nothing to do with chairs. ;)
To be fair, this is true of a lot of characters from the Donkey Kong Universe.I know people like to shit on Daisy all the time in this thread for some reason, and I don't know why Era can't handle her being an absolutely massive character. She's bigger than Ridley, K. Rool, the Belmonts, Dark Samus and Chrom combined. The only one who measures up to her is Isabelle.
I'm well aware of their importance to their respective franchises, but the argument was that Geno is a "low appeal on a broader scale".
There's no higher appeal than Daisy and Isabelle on a broader scale among the entirety of all of Ultimate's newcomers so far. To claim that Daisy is an unpopular character that appeals to basically nobody is being extremely ignorant of reality.
I think a genuine reason Daisy gets a lot of hate at least here is because of MemorymanI know people like to shit on Daisy all the time in this thread for some reason, and I don't know why Era can't handle her being an absolutely massive character. She's bigger than Ridley, K. Rool, the Belmonts, Dark Samus and Chrom combined. The only one who measures up to her is Isabelle.
Playing Metroid: Zero Mission for the first time on Wii U VC, and uh, holy cow, this is incredible.
That Norfair arrangement is LIT. I like Brawl's remix just for how different it is, but I'd like to see something akin to that one day.
All solid points and some the bolded is something I was unaware of.-Moon Assist Trophy not being summoned by Skull Kid makes zero sense
-Young Link's Final Smash not being shown yet
-Ramblin' Mushroom replacing Skull Kid's assist trophy gimmick from Smash 4
-Majora's Mask 3D releasing while Sakurai was drafting his picks for Ultimate
-He's one of the most popular Zelda characters
etc etc
Nah. There's a whole game by indieszero with Dragon Quest music. He just asks people to not make orchestra versions of his songs because he does concertos himself, that's why DQ music is all midi.Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Sugiyama even more anal about licensing music than anyone involved in Final Fantasy?
If we barely got 2 tracks for Cloud, that might be a legitimate obstacle to a Dragon Quest rep.
No, He already leaked Simon beforehand, then he said there are 6 more newcomers afterward.
*Avatar quote*That is sooooo cute. But I clicked the account and it's a little NSFW haha.
Just because a character is popular doesn't make it a good character.I know people like to shit on Daisy all the time in this thread for some reason, and I don't know why Era can't handle her being an absolutely massive character. She's bigger than Ridley, K. Rool, the Belmonts, Dark Samus and Chrom combined. The only one who measures up to her is Isabelle.
She's the Poochie of Nintendo princesses.I think a genuine reason Daisy gets a lot of hate at least here is because of Memoryman
Why wouldn't any of those other options happen?It's more a matter of no one really being left in Square's catalog who's been desired by the Smash community if Dragon Quest ends up not panning out, though I think Sakurai will try for DQ first and foremost.
Crono isn't happening. Aya Brea isn't happening. Fei Fong Wong isn't happening. Another FF rep isn't happening. Who's left if not Geno, who has cult appeal, Sakurai's own affection for the character, and no one else really getting in his way?
Sakurai and his cat parted ways and he now prefers dogs. Sorry.as much as we are aware that Incineroar is more likely to happens so.
Is people are going to finally accept that Incineroar will be in Smash Bros?
Only if he's the 69th reveal.as much as we are aware that Incineroar is more likely to happens so.
are people going to finally accept that Incineroar will be in Smash Bros?
To be fair, this is true of a lot of characters from the Donkey Kong Universe.
If you want more clarification, I am speaking purely on their roles within their series. Daisy is primarily treated as a spin off character despite originally appearing in a platformer. But she still appears quite constantly. That is more than i can say about Geno whi was scrubbed from the remake of Mario and Luigi
I think a genuine reason Daisy gets a lot of hate at least here is because of Memoryman
as much as we are aware that Incineroar is more likely to happens so.
are people going to finally accept that Incineroar will be in Smash Bros?
as much as we are aware that Incineroar is more likely to happens so.
are people going to finally accept that Incineroar will be in Smash Bros?