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Anubis

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SM is 87....Tomb Raider is 78. It definitely isn't anywhere near Spider-Man so I'm not sure what you're talking about and where you're getting this 5% from. SM has glowing excellent reviews and is one of the highest rated games of the year. These are mostly mixed.
Is SM still trending towards a 88?
 

snausages

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Feb 12, 2018
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Metascores are rubbish especially when a game is divisive like this, you need to actually look at what people are saying about both these games.

Only time metacritic is good for anything is when a game gets universal acclaim or everyone hates it. Everything in between is just too murky these days. What is a 78 on MC when one outlet says it's a 6 and another an 8.5?
 

Marble

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For real. Game is currently 5% behind Spider-man. You know, that GOTY/best superhero game ever contender.

Sucks that some reviewers think it's a step back. I haven't read too many reviews yet but sounds like a lot say it's the best one? Interested to see where I land with it.

You did notice MC is currently missing a significant amount of sub 7 reviews? They only have two 6 reviews mentioned, and in this topic I've seen like 5 or 6 of those, and a 4, which is also not mentioned. These will pull the average way down I'm afraid.

To bad. Action adventures are my favorite genre. But glad Spider-Man will keep me busy for a while.
 

Osahi

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Oct 27, 2017
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Still have to write mine (just finished the game yesterday). But if you enjoyed the previous ones, you'll like this one too. It's a natural extention of those adventures, focussing a little less on the survival aspect (it's mostly optional now), but adding a more living world in it's place. The exploration and puzzles are again the absolute highlights, while the combat is good but not amazing. The emphasis is more on stealth this time around, and it mostly works, but I'd like to have seen a more open approach to things. Often you are still forced in certain combat scenario's (you'll need to stealth this section, can't escape shooting in the next) and I think there is a missed potential for letting the player play with Lara's skills and creating their own style as so often stealth is the easiest way to go.

The biggest let-down was the story. After promises of a darker story where Lara's shadowy side is explored... it's just isn't really there. And where it gets closest to this promise is in sidequests, not in the main plot that turns very cliched very fast. It's really uneven too. (The shot of Lara rising out of a lake with flames in the background? That scene is cool too see and play, but feels totally out of place and that dark side Lara is very quickly tossed aside again). Also, just as the previous two, this story could have used some lightheartedness. It's overly serious and selfconsious again, whiney voice and all.
 

digitalrelic

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What the hell is all this faux drama about?

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The game is at an 82 after 55 reviews. Those are great scores. Era review threads are so fucking weird.
 

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For real. Game is currently 5% behind Spider-man. You know, that GOTY/best superhero game ever contender.

Sucks that some reviewers think it's a step back. I haven't read too many reviews yet but sounds like a lot say it's the best one? Interested to see where I land with it.
The review scale has been compressed greatly this past generation. Anything under 85 isn't a good game.
 

John Bender

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What the hell is all this faux drama about?
Well it's jumping up and down.
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DrDeckard

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For a place that believes Easy Allies is certifiably gold, I'm a little confounded by the harping on the more negative reviews. Any reason behind that?

Some strange hate on this site. Weird!? Launching too near a PS4 exclusive IMO.

This game could be the final decider in why I think reviews are complete bullshit now. After seeing the praise for spider-man and the low scores for this, even though tons of reviews say it's easily the best of the three. Very strange.

Apologies for this comment. Still hyped for tomb raider. Will make up my own mind.
 
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For a place that believes Easy Allies is certifiably gold, I'm a little confounded by the harping on the more negative reviews. Any reason behind that?

Because it's not just one or two negative reviews, there are quite a few. This will finish up in the mid to low 70's at this rate.

It doesn't look to be a game that has brought anything new to the table, it's more of the same as far as the "rebooted" trilogy goes.

They need to wipe the slate clean and go back to Tomb Raiders roots.
 

Linus815

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I don't understand the disparity between the PS4 and xbox version. A lot of reviews are missing from each platform on metacritic, even though they're obviously interchangable. I prefer opencritic for this very reason.
 

bbq of doom

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Oct 25, 2017
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What the hell is all this faux drama about?

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The game is at an 82 after 55 reviews. Those are great scores. Era review threads are so fucking weird.

I'm a bit surprised because the two leaked reviews were fairly high, so I guess I'm slightly disappointed that it's this polarizing.

That being said, a lot of folks are operating like the high scores—which are somewhat numerous!—don't exist, maybe because they hate the series, new Lara, etc.
 

ghostcrew

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Oct 27, 2017
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x1 has lower number of reviews than ps4. its 78 on PS4 and dropping fast

That's the Xbox version. He's referring to the PS4 version which has since dropped to 75.

Ah maybe it hasn't updated yet but it's showing 74 on MC for me currently

Gotcha. The PS4 is missing a ton of the big reviews like the IGN one. Seems like they're split over both platforms on MC? Both Xbox and PS4 metacritic pages are missing loads. Xbox missing a lot of lower ones, PS4 missing higher ones.

Opencritic seems like it has them all on one page? That's at 82%
 

Viceratops

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The reviews actually make me feel better. A few of them make me think this will be as good or better than the previous games without all the overblown hype and expectations. In other words, this one is reviewing where the other 2 should have.
 

psychedelic

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It seems others went into the game thinking it was a straight action game and ended up hating it. It seems Shadow forces you play smart and use traps for your own advantages coming up with unique ways to defeat enemies. I think that's awesome and perfect for the series.

I can't wait to get it this week! Thanks for your input.

Even if certain people expected it to play differently, I don't think that justifies a low score. You don't give a 4/10 if a game is really good at what it does but not what you wanted it to do. Either IGN and other sites overlooked the game's genuine flaws, or the ones who scored it really low didn't get what they wanted, which doesn't seem fair to me.
 

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Yeah, 4/10 is approaching the territory of games that literally don't even work. Very odd.
This is what's fucked up about the review scoring system. If a game that doesn't even work gets a 4/10, then what deserves a 1, 2, or a 3?

For me, if a game functions but simply is not fun at all to play, then I'd say it deserves a 4/10.
 

bbq of doom

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Because it's not just one or two negative reviews, there are quite a few. This will finish up in the mid to low 70's at this rate.

It doesn't look to be a game that has brought anything new to the table, it's more of the same as far as the "rebooted" trilogy goes.

They need to wipe the slate clean and go back to Tomb Raiders roots.

But there quite a few, if not more, positive reviews. Why don't those count with equal weight in the hive mind?
 

Badcoo

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wow that gamespot 6. Still looking forward to playing it. Now it's just between x1x and PC.
 

Theorry

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I don't understand the disparity between the PS4 and xbox version. A lot of reviews are missing from each platform on metacritic, even though they're obviously interchangable. I prefer opencritic for this very reason.
Opencritic is better always because they dont use that multiplier thing MC uses. Because for some reason a IGN is more worth then abit smaller site. Always baffled me.
 

thuway

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Oct 27, 2017
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Criticisms leveraged against the story give me pause. I was hoping Laura would have a fitting conclusion to this arc :/
 

PlayBee

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9 from IGN, 7.5 from GI, 6 from GameSpot, lol wtf

Stop using Metacritic (when OpenCritic is working and showing more reviews). Game is at 82 right now, which is fine.
 

metalslimer

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I mean I think a high 70s low 80s score would be pretty good for this type of game. I do want another Deus Ex though...
 

mindsale

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Three games and they've all got nearly identical weapons and upgrades. They're just different locales in each. Why even tease dual-wielding pistols at the end of TR when the subsequent two games have zero alterations to a weapon kit? Lara has just become more foolhardy in different settings.
 

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What the hell is all this faux drama about?

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The game is at an 82 after 55 reviews. Those are great scores. Era review threads are so fucking weird.

People sweating that it would get a higher MC than Spider-Man lol.