Honestly I'm not that shocked to read stuff like this and that other absurd sex slave robot thin. What baffles me is that people come up with this trying to defend virtual titties of all things.
Thread's hit that point where it's attracted a new level of crazy conspiracy theorists.
This is what I was saying earlier, where the responses often touch on 'we can't expect the industry to only focus on one demographic!' despite them doing exactly that already. Things have moved so far towards appealing to that one group that we've been conditioned to see the pandering amidst the current status quo as the norm. Because of that, any suggestion that it could change is then claimed to be for a special interest group rather than dragging the spectrum of characters depicted back into some sort of variety or balance with something for everyone. As opposed to one demographic getting the lion's share of what they want to see and everyone else being told to choose from the scant pickings elsewhere if they want to see something different.
Yeah...I just read to catch up as I've mostly lurked rather than participated but Jesus some people here are making me depressed, and also ashamed to be male.
You know, male characters sexualized from a women viewpoint would be something like this
I don't know if everybody here is ok playing with characters like these...
So what's all this about? A blatantly fallacious slippery slope argument and an extreme generalization based on hyper-partisan political views? I don't see why any one of us should give you the benefit of the doubt by engaging in discussion with you, especially when I consider that you already received an official warning for your 'people who talk about racism are the real racists'-type post in the Fleischer animation thread.
These are excellent posts.
Please explain how you arrived at that conclusion.
You know, male characters sexualized from a women viewpoint would be something like this
I don't know if everybody here is ok playing with characters like these...
Forget objectification - I don't know how anyone could find a video game character 'attractive' full stop. It's not a real person, it's a bunch of sprites on screen.
Please tell me you're not just saying that because they're shirtless.
I think they need to wear pants that don't look like they're strangling their groins and on the verge of giving them a wedgie the same way the worst examples of sexualization of women do and the pants look like they need to be a bit taller so I'm not constantly distracted by the thought of constantly needing to pull up pants that are falling down, but if they want to have a gunshow like this I'm A-OK and even if they strut it around like peacocks I'm fine as long as it's not too stupid.You know, male characters sexualized from a women viewpoint would be something like this
I don't know if everybody here is ok playing with characters like these...
Basically this but with guys. I'm straight but I can definitely get the appeal of that outfit way more than a string bikini on any gender.
Ah, ok. I've never played the game, only seen it in screenshots or videos.
That's hilarious and also kinda sad.
I honestly think we have reached that point already with total balance. I don't see how any of you can overlook all the female characters debuted recently or hell in the past 3/4 years. Any game you name where the women are objectified ... you can name 5 more that are not these days. There is Quiet and then there is Aloy, Adult Ellie, Faith, Chloe/Max ,Evie Fyre, Whole cast of For Honor, The main ladies from Nioh (FROM TEAM NINJA), Dishonered 2 + dlc.
It depends on the genres you're into. If you like JRPG's, action games, fighting games, SRPGs, and so on then it's damn near impossible to avoid this stuff.
That doesn't mean that it's not a problem or that it's not worth discussing.
sorry. I was taking a stab at guessing the average sentiment. i wasn't trying to imply that everyone subscribed to that.
I understand that but generally like the poster I quoted mentioned is that all this criticism of females showing skin in games is to ultimately bring more balance to the overall representation of women in games. I feel like that goal has already been achieved. I don't see how the negative effects of Quiet to some people can overlap the positive effects of better female representation in more games and even so BIG AAA games.
It's a bit hard to determine because Hayashi made two contradictory statements.
