Nah, that tiny section is indicative of the rest of the city since it has less traffic than the previous build. If every screenshot of a street doesn't include bumper to bumper traffic, then it's downgraded!
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We Ben Reilly talking about puddles: Spider-Man controversy gets high numbers of upvotes on Reddit
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It's the perfect moment to explain some things about JPG and GIF compression, temporal and spatial video compression, OSes color profile etc. Or not.
That's because they changed the suit textures to be more natural and not look like plastic.
Haha shit.You think that's bad? Try this shot:
It doesn't look ANYTHING like E3 any more.
User warned: arguing in bad faith, openly refusing to support user's own claims
Again. I don't care.
I couldn't care less about the final look of the game as it looks fantastic, but I do wholeheartedly agree that it's time for the E3 bullshots to end.
If anything, pre-release versions of games should be looking worse than final builds, but we're always swamped with these games where the final release has noticeable differences from showcased builds, and it's getting extremely frustrating.
If anything, pre-release versions of games should be looking worse than final builds, but we're always swamped with these games where the final release has noticeable differences from showcased builds, and it's getting extremely frustrating.
Because before making any conclusions I actually look at more than one image./source.
Also eyes lie:
This is the stupidest complain I've read in a while. I don't know, maybe that puddle had a lot of fans but I personally couldn't care less about it.
It 100% has the best particle system in any game. Not even GoW tops it.
Like i said, they shouldn't have said anything in the first place.
Someone should take two real life pictures, one of morning-time after running the hose in their front yard, then one in the afternoon after the water is gone and the sun has changed position.
DOWNGRADE!!
DOWNGRADE!!
Changing games early on is fine, just don't slap (100% PURE GAMEPLAY UNALTERED BITCH) on the top of your trailers when you know it's going to look worse when it comes out.
Nobody thinks the shots are identical.
Man, I don't know why people are saying this. OBVIOUSLY they are different. The question is whether the game's visuals were DOWNGRADED. Based on all the evidence we have (not just the part in this one scene), it has not.
Nobody is saying the shots are identical. Even insomniac is not saying the shots are identical. In fact they have gone into detail about the differences in that particular scene. However, downgrade implies visual fidelity of the title was decreased in the form of asset quality, polygon counts, lighting/shadow quality etc. The visual fidelity has not decreased, the direction/arrangement for the scene changed.
You can prefer one arrangement over the other, and find one more visually appealing than the other as well. People like shiny things (more puddles) and some prefer a cooler tone in lighting like the older footage. But it isn't a downgrade, which implies it was too much for the system to run or for the game to handle and hence quality was decreased. There are plenty more scenes in the game from the release footage that are way more complex than that scene in last year's e3 trailer. And there are other locations already shown in preview footage with even more puddles than this scene as well.
And don't tell me that the bottom photo - which is compressed and washed out - is indicative of what the current game looks given the bevy of shots we've seen to the contrary.
The fact that these two specific photos look different - which they admittedly do - isn't proof of any downgrade. (Unless you believe that is what the game will look like when played on the console)
the vast majority if not everybody, is saying there is no downgrade. If there is a downgrade however small it may be that would mean Insomniac lied
Yeah, his suit isnt suppose to reflective light like that. That was actually something they said they wanted to fix and they did.
But shininess looks better if you take a still pic even if it makes no sense. And that's supposedly part of the downgrade
You're missing the fact that the suit has been changed to be more cloth-like instead of unrealistically shiny.
Being ready to be shown is 1) completely nebulous. There isn't like a "ready to be shown" point where suddenly nothing changes and 2) not does it mean that nothing can change between that reveal and release.
That is the nature of game development. Hell, it's the nature of movie development too. How many times has CGI improved or changed between trailer and release, or scenes cut out or reshot? What you're asking is completely unrealistic and shows a lack of understanding of how game devs works
Days like this I want to burn the internet to the ground.
The geometry looks the same.
But as for lighting, regarding your point about the sun -- did Insomniac specifically say that about the sun, or is that just random people guessing here?? (in the OP's twitter replies from Insomniac, I don't see them saying anything about the sun)
The sheer amount of pain and suffering caused by trivial details in video games is amazing. Hopefully there's no dialogue in the game that I can interpret as offensive.
If the sun has moved position how are the shadows still in the same place? FFS this is basic stuff that gets taught when you're 8 years old in primary school.
The henchmen shadows have been changed from actual outlines to blobs.
I never said the sun changed position. I said the shadows on the henchmen are different. Going from blobs to outlines is an example of hard light vs soft light. Hence a lighting change of some sort. It doesn't have to be the sun.
no, just a general reminder so people can see the difference in people's reaction
This doesn't look like a downgrade, move along folks...
but... I do know how to upgrade the game...
Replace Peter Parker with...
Wtf
Sony fanboys are weird as hell
I personally would not have a problem with that. Personaly I hate annoucements years in advance anyway. However, I don't think the only way to show your game would be on the day it releases. 3 month or less in advance would be optimal.
You should consider the quality of the pic because we know the game doesn't look like that based on all the other media released.
Especially when the "lie" is usually... a different video being posted, as if that was some sort of statement and/or attempt to hoodwink them. When you can look at what's there now and judge based on that... it's new information, not obscuring what previously existed.
It's hurting my brain trying to process the mentality here such that someone could care about this. Even if this was somehow real you're, what, angry that you were excited for a version of the game with extremely slightly barely better graphics than what exists? But you know what it looks like now? Don't buy it if you don't like what it looks like now? Or is it that the barely better looking version will never really exist and you wanted that one? Or... what, even.
You can clearly see a tod change in the other gif comparisons with the jump off the building
I don't think Insomniac did that? And is Spider-Man going to look worse when it's out?
Until a game goes gold, there will be changes, maybe not big ones, but there will be changes.
The E3 image definitely looks better, more like an animated cartoon. If it is just a filter they should put it back.
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