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Lukemia SL

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Jan 30, 2018
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Hopefully Capcom being on that list makes it so we don't get another situation like MHW. The worst use of HDR I've seen.

You know it. I'm just glad it won't affect RE2R considering RE7 did it right with the RE Engine.
Such a shame I'm still waiting on a fix to play Monster Hunter. The Beta soured me on it.

Of course no Bethesda. They don't even consider or recognize HDR.

Disappointing company with their lack of HDR in all of their major games released this gen.
 

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One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
6,110
I don't get Nintendo. The Tegra X1 fully supports HDR, but the dock doesn't. Which means Nintendo deliberately went against supporting it with the dock. That's even worse than some joking they don't understand it...
 

Jiraiya

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Oct 27, 2017
10,295
This is awesome. Hdr is probably the greatest visual bump I've encountered. Even on my budget set it looks great.
 

kanuuna

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Oct 26, 2017
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Glad to see the industry is working on improving HDR implementation. It's a killer feature when supported well. Not sure I agree with avoidance of manual calibration since that often suits my display more than games that just have an on/off option but the rest sounds good.

GOOD

Hopefully they can create a standard that makes logical sense and is forward thinking. Games should be mastered at 4000 nits or more - because mastering to 1000 nits is way too short sighted and doesn't take into account displays 5 or 10 years away.

My thoughts are aligned with these takes. Also, like someone else here mentioned, fake HDR really need to be put to death.
Next-gen with microled displays should be a treat. Here's hoping immersive audio with games also takes off with those boxes.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Nice nice!

This is definitely needed. Like others mentioned you got games like AC Origins, Gears 4 but also games like Monster Hunter World where the implementation is absolutely trash.
 

Kyle Cross

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Oct 25, 2017
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HRD is a fucking mess, so there is no way to go but up I guess.

Having to calibrate my TV for each game sucks donkey balls and speaks volumes about how HDR has been bait to sell new TVs.
HDR is bait to sell new TVs because video game devs have been sloppy with it?

No.

HDR is the biggest thing to happen to displays since color, it's not a bait or a gimmick. HDR in film has been great as they follow a standard. Games have been slow to adopt a standard, so this is great news to hear that they finally are.
 

DavidDesu

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Oct 29, 2017
5,718
Glasgow, Scotland
I hope somewhere down the line we just get everyone designing around one standard calibration. The point of HDR is to try and replicate closer to life colours and light levels, so the end game should really be a display and content that aims to replicate the real world. If a documentary is filmed then the cameras should capture as close to real life as possible light levels, colours, contrast etcetera and then that should be replicated when watched on a TV.

As it stands it's all about personal preference. Some HDR I plementations I've seen are far more colourful and brighter than what the real thing was that they shot. It looks good... But not accurate.
 

AegonSnake

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Oct 25, 2017
9,566
They need side by side HDR comparisons in every game. Otherwise people just wont notice it. They wont notice the enhancements and they certainly wont notice if it's wrong.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I hope somewhere down the line we just get everyone designing around one standard calibration. The point of HDR is to try and replicate closer to life colours and light levels, so the end game should really be a display and content that aims to replicate the real world. If a documentary is filmed then the cameras should capture as close to real life as possible light levels, colours, contrast etcetera and then that should be replicated when watched on a TV.

As it stands it's all about personal preference. Some HDR I plementations I've seen are far more colourful and brighter than what the real thing was that they shot. It looks good... But not accurate.

Why. Different games need different approaches. There is no one size fits all here.
 

FuturaBold

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Oct 27, 2017
2,525
I wish Dolby Vision will be added. I know there might be added lag but perhaps that can be figured out. Only BF1 & Mass Effect on PC support DV. : /
 

base_two

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't get Nintendo. The Tegra X1 fully supports HDR, but the dock doesn't. Which means Nintendo deliberately went against supporting it with the dock. That's even worse than some joking they don't understand it...

I love HDR, but it isn't really ready for prime time yet for mass market use. Barring the $600 TCL that's setting the budget TV market on fire, you need a $1000+ TV to even get proper HDR. Then you have to calibrate that TV properly for HDR is display properly. A HDR capable screen on the Switch would shoot the price of the system up. There's always a possibility that Nintendo can patch on HDR support and release a new dock, but that's likely to happen with a revision of the hardware instead. Hell, some OG PS4 and Xbox One owners don't even know those systems support HDR.
 

Snake Eater

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Oct 27, 2017
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This is exactly why I'm in no rush to buy an HDR with it being such a mess right now, let them get this straightened out and in an year or so it will be ready. Then OLED will be much cheaper then anyway and that's the future if display tech
 

Lukemia SL

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Jan 30, 2018
9,384
Why. Different games need different approaches. There is no one size fits all here.

Exactly that's like asking for a shoe that adapts to everyone's foot size

This is exactly why I'm in no rush to buy an HDR with it being such a mess right now, let them get this straightened out and in an year or so it will be ready. Then OLED will be much cheaper then anyway and that's the future if display tech

It's not a mess at all, everything comes down to implementation and many do it better than others. Like Polyphony having cameras made specifically for capturing HDR.
 

Nostremitus

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Nov 15, 2017
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With LG, Sony, Asus, HP, Vizio, and Samsung on board, this group has potential. It should help desplinter the HDR market by setting standards all agree on that get implemented in TVs and monitors.

Standardized HDR will be the best thing to happen to IQ since the jump to HD.
 

Zing

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Oct 29, 2017
1,771
Perfect. Reading about all the tweaks people have to do and all the "I can't tell if I have HDR enabled" on the threads here has me wanting to stay away a bit longer from HDR till it's finalized better.
I use default settings on my Sony and HDR is perfect and exactly as intended. No tweaks necessary. HDR is a larger upgrade than 4K, so just go for it.
 

Markitron

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Oct 25, 2017
12,510
Ireland
I think it was issues with windows 10. Its been fixed now I think. I played Injustice 2 and MEA in HDR, and they worked perfectly.
I think that's more of a software issue, and Microsoft/Windows' responsibility
Not necessarily. This is mainly concerning optimizing HDR on a game-by-game basis. Nvidia merely ensures the HDR metadata passthrough via the GPU on a global level.
Ah ok
 
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RoboPlato

RoboPlato

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well, Fallout 76 is confirmed to feature HDR support, so there's that at least.
Oh awesome, didn't know that.

Really, really hope Doom Eternal supports it. I've seen Id devs talking up HDR but they haven't implemented it in their engine yet. It would be a big upgrade and look awesome with Doom's contrast between light and dark.
 

Deleted member 12833

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Oct 27, 2017
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Switch don't support HDR sadly.

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Couldn't it be added in an update like PS4 did? I know portable couldn't but I mean in docked mode
 

FuturaBold

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Oct 27, 2017
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Disappointed Dolby isn't on the list of companies. I guess we won't see Dolby Vision games for a long time or never?
 

funky

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Oct 25, 2017
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Would be nice if someone made a true HDR PC monitor that doesnt cost over 2 grand already!
 

SiG

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't get Nintendo. The Tegra X1 fully supports HDR, but the dock doesn't. Which means Nintendo deliberately went against supporting it with the dock. That's even worse than some joking they don't understand it...
...You're blaming Nintendo for the lack of HDR? The Switch doesn't even support 4k.

If anything, it will most likely come down to Nvidia's next SOC solution for the Switch and its capabilities.

Much like Vulkan, you can see them becoming part of the group once they have hardware that is relevant for it.
 

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...You're blaming Nintendo for the lack of HDR? The Switch doesn't even support 4k.

If anything, it will most likely come down to Nvidia's next SOC solution for the Switch and its capabilities.

Much like Vulkan, you can see them becoming part of the group once they have hardware that is relevant for it.
What does 4k have to do with HDR?
 

Lukemia SL

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Jan 30, 2018
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...You're blaming Nintendo for the lack of HDR? The Switch doesn't even support 4k.

If anything, it will most likely come down to Nvidia's next SOC solution for the Switch and its capabilities.

Much like Vulkan, you can see them becoming part of the group once they have hardware that is relevant for it.

4K and HDR can exist without each other.
 

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One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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...You're blaming Nintendo for the lack of HDR? The Switch doesn't even support 4k.

If anything, it will most likely come down to Nvidia's next SOC solution for the Switch and its capabilities.

Much like Vulkan, you can see them becoming part of the group once they have hardware that is relevant for it.
The Tegra X1 fully supports both 4K and HDR. And HDR can also be done on a resolution lower than 4k. So yes, I blame Nintendo for this one.