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Illusion

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,407
She's got a friend that called me "trash" because I come from a working class family.

I'm stunned to hear that, I wouldn't shut up about how shallow, elitist, and downright terrible human in front of their face. I would go out of my way to make that person publically shamed on the internet. Like this isn't funny or a joke and can't be looked at in any other way no matter what filter you put over it.

Nonetheless, to give you friend good ideas is to talk to people, do a job in the working class, attend a class at a community college to get to know student struggles, then tell that friend even though of these people work hard and become educated doesn't guarantee any change in their lives, people will be under paid, they will struggle to find work, they will be taken advantage of, they will struggle to afford to rent and have food on the table, despite having more talent, more education, a better work ethic than your entire family has in that person's pinky finger.

Their priviledge doesn't see that and being stuck in their bubble only continues to create worse living conditions, to have a unhealthy look on the world, and to only make things draw closer to a French Revolution if they don't do anything about it.
 

Deleted member 14900

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
521
Yeah, even when coming up from a really poor background to decent means to get by, that history never leaves you. I think it's something you'd have to experience on a more personal level to know where you came from, and the knowledge or fear of how easily you could get back there if a series of well-placed catastrophes happen. Coming up rich and staying rich just won't let one understand to the fullest extent, and I don't think they've had the opportunity to exercise those muscles to be understanding of those less fortunate.

It's up to you if that is something you will work with for the long term if any heavier conflicts come to the surface. The "me" mentality already shows. I have less patience to educate than you.
 

zoukka

Game Developer
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
2,361
She sounds somewhat simple minded and ignorant. Being rich does not hinder your cognition unless you really avoid basic learning.
 

iAmPossum

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,135
Getting peeps to change their attitude as an adult isn't easy unless they're willing to question their own comfort.
 

chicken_pasta

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
893
oh please. Lol.

Middle and lower class people also have expectations of who they should be, how they should act, and be with, this isn't exclusive to the rich. Many of these things are negative and we are as society trying to progress from.
Rich people who date lower class people face a bunch of discrimination from their rich peers. Happens even with relatives. The pressure is for sure higher.
 

TarNaru33

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,045
Rich people who date lower class people face a bunch of discrimination from their rich peers. Happens even with relatives. The pressure is for sure higher.

Just stop it, pressure to who one goes out with or hang out with exist in all classes. Don't fall into the stereotype that poor people have no expectations of them from family, friends, and even people they do not know. Though typically its more on race, religion, and sexual orientation, rather than class when it comes to lower and middle class.

Interracial relations is a major one and while getting better, still has major social stigma attached to it.
 

chicken_pasta

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
893
Just stop it, pressure to who one goes out with or hang out with exist in all classes. Don't fall into the stereotype that poor people have no expectations of them from family, friends, and even people they do not know. Though typically its more on race, religion, and sexual orientation, rather than class when it comes to lower and middle class.

Interracial relations is a major one and while getting better, still has major social stigma attached to it.
I can date whoever I want, lad. Rich people often have it harder.

Just stop it. Go outside and meet people.
 

TarNaru33

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,045
I can date whoever I want, lad. Rich people often have it harder.

Just stop it. Go outside and meet people.

Actually, I really think you need to do this.. Like seriously. I already met people who have this issue to be clear and they aren't rich. Rich people can date whoever they want as well, we are talking about pressure, expectations, and discrimination for whoever one hangs out with, what they want to do, or want to be. This is not an rich-exclusive issue.

Decided to clarify since you don't seem to understand what "pressure" is.
 
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VISION

Member
Oct 25, 2017
988
I just wanted to update y'all. I showed her this thread and she said your comments helped her realize some ways she's out of touch. She has a positive attitude about it. Thanks everybody.

I'm probably gonna take her on some walks and show her a couple documentaries soon lol.

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One of us, one of us
 
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sphagnum

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,058
I just wanted to update y'all. I showed her this thread and she said your comments helped her realize some ways she's out of touch. She has a positive attitude about it. Thanks everybody.

I'm probably gonna take her on some walks and show her a couple documentaries soon lol.

Give her the Communist Manifesto.
 

Inugami

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,995
There was a really great comic that I had once but I can't find it now... The gist was that it showed two people working hard to try and succeed. From their perspectives they were both working hard, but one succeeded while the other didn't. The reason was because they had a ton of support and money from their family and their connections. Something they didn't realize that they had, and something they also didn't realize that the person who didn't succeed didn't have.

It was great at showing the different perspectives and how both people are working hard and it's not necessarily the person who came from a poor family's fault they were waiting at the diner they were celebrating at.
 

KillLaCam

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,392
Seoul
I just wanted to update y'all. I showed her this thread and she said your comments helped her realize some ways she's out of touch. She has a positive attitude about it. Thanks everybody.

I'm probably gonna take her on some walks and show her a couple documentaries soon lol.

20180812_224540.jpg


One of us, one of us
That's pretty awesome
 

Muu

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
1,981
There was a really great comic that I had once but I can't find it now... The gist was that it showed two people working hard to try and succeed. From their perspectives they were both working hard, but one succeeded while the other didn't. The reason was because they had a ton of support and money from their family and their connections. Something they didn't realize that they had, and something they also didn't realize that the person who didn't succeed didn't have.

It was great at showing the different perspectives and how both people are working hard and it's not necessarily the person who came from a poor family's fault they were waiting at the diner they were celebrating at.

http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate
 

CampFreddie

A King's Landing
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,980
Have you tried taking her to the supermarket?

*Checks thread*
I'm so late with that joke.
 

Camstun187

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
2,166
China
I knew a girl who said her family was currently so poor that, and I quote "my brother will only be able to get a laptop for Christmas".

When I tried explaining how absurd this was to her, she couldn't comprehend just how well-off this was.

Fuck, the most expensive thing I ever got for Christmas was a PS2 in 2000 and that blew our minds.
 

SRG01

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,029
If you really want her to open up her eyes, ask her to volunteer at some non-profits or public outreach organizations, like a soup kitchen or food bank.