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Youtube shuts down InfoWars channel (Alex Jones' den of wisdom).
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Okay so yeah given this I will agree that Alex Jones should be removed from YouTube. I still think that the first amendment only applying to the government is stupid and that corporations actively trying to censor people is a problem (that extends beyond social media websites to companies like the NFL threatening people not to kneel during the national anthem because it hurts their profits. If anything, it's a worker's rights problem at that point), but I will concede on Alex Jones.
So you were literally stanning for a dude without even being informed. To quote myself:
OK, Who cares? That's not what this thread is about. At all. Period.
Start a thread about that if you care so much about how free speech relates to the modern internet when it comes to the deplatforming of a person who for YEARS led conspiracy theories that involved to targeted harassment and threats so severe that one of the families of a dead six year old fucking child has had to move over 7 times and can't even visit their child's fucking grave. And how deplatforming that piece of shit *reads notes* is not ok because muh fre spech to you means freedom of consequences. Good grief.
Real-time example of how truth can be distorted, disrupted, and deferred using propaganda. So many pages of the same non-sense and nothing of value was gained.
As I said, it's always either, "Idk about this thing but i'm just asking questions" or "I know about the context and why it's ok, but i'm asking questions anyway." More than half the time the latter is disguised as the former.
Finally. Hope this dude reevaluates his whole life. But I'm just expecting him to double down and try to find a platform elsewhere.
The dude lost his kids over this. You think he's going to reevaluate anything? lol
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Yeah, I guess by trying to make a broader point I was also unintentionally defending a person I really don't want to defend. But yeah there's a time and place for those sorts of discussions and I really shouldn't have tried so hard to shoehorn something into the discussion that really wasn't needed.
Also not really sure if anyone's posted this in here yet, but the fair and balanced new source WikiLeaks evidently views Alex Jones as a "Critic of State Power"
I just checked the Google Play Store and on there it's 15th in the "News & Magazines" category.
Wait, you didn't even know about the Parkland shooting and Pizzagate conspiracies related to Alex Jones? The lawsuits? You're conceding when you found out the harm he did? The whole point of deplatforming Alex Jones wasn't to restrict some kooky conspiracy theories otherwise UFO shows would be delisted. Next time, do your research before going on about free speech so you can avoid these blunders.
Say despicable cunty things, expect to be treated like a cunt. He had this coming, I'm surprised it took so long.
No one else has posted it because it's not surprising to anyone that the pro Russia misinformation account that is Wikileaks would call Alex Jones that.
He doesn't believe in deplatforming nazis.
It's hard to know if you're being sarcastic after the shit you pulled in this thread.
The infowars app on Google Play has a USK rating of 6+ Years. Kid friendly eh? USK 6+ is probably equivalent to PEGI 7 I guess.
Flagged it as Hateful Speech on the Play Store.
Flagged it as Hateful Speech on the Play Store.
WikiLeaks being WikiLeaks.
They came up by doing "great work" but it was a facade for the introduction of Russian propaganda.
He's using "being uninformed" as a cover to defend Jones and post WikiLeaks propaganda. He knows what he's been doing.
So should Facebook allow porn on their website? Are you saying governments should force websites to permit all kinds of content
Seriously, look at the dumb shit Chrome pulled in this thread. He knew exactly what he was doing going into this thread.
I'm just gonna use this since I don't think it's been put here yet, but if it has, always good to repeat it to drive the point home:
I'm personally not a fan of free speech absolutism. Like any right, there are limitations to free speech. Unlimited rights is basically anarchy.
Oh, right, Alex Jones. Yeah, nice to see him being deplatformed all over the place now. Fuck that piece of shit.
I'm personally not a fan of free speech absolutism. Like any right, there are limitations to free speech. Unlimited rights is basically anarchy.
Oh, right, Alex Jones. Yeah, nice to see him being deplatformed all over the place now. Fuck that piece of shit.
I have two concerns with Sam's taken on this. One we are trusting what is correct and moral on corporations, Corporations who effectively answer to no-one and corporations who now can decide how and where we get our news. Secondly, They just made Alex a martyr and gave Alex exactly what he craves with his narrative about a global conspiracy. Also social media platforms are not 'major infrastructure' like railways or telecoms that can be split apart or 'regulated' w/out it affecting the audience reach. People will just stop using the platform altogether. So, you 'solved' nothing & destroyed a major entity or two in the process. Not sure how that helps anyone. The platforms themselves have to come to some sort of standardized approach to accepting / rejecting what gets posted on their websites.
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I'll bet $10 that you didn't rad the thread..
Alex Jones doesn't have news, if you're getting news from Alex Jones you have more than a few issues, and that's not a fallacy, that was proven true. Which is why he's facing multiple lawsuits.
Tell that to Richard Spencer, Steve Bannon, and Milo, whose social relevance fell off a cliff after they were deplatformed.
By Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., 16 April 1963
"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
I was giving my thoughts on Sam's take of alex jones being removed from Youtube etc etc.
Do I even want to know how such a straight forward issue that should be universally applauded dragged on for 19 pages ( im on mobile)... -_-
I am sure most of us agree that alex shouldn't have a platform but there are other conversations around this that can be had.
How can people celebrate this? This just gives further into his entire narrative and solidifies what he has been saying about the illuminati or whatever. He's now been made a martyr and this will only boost his platform and audience. I think this forum likes to believe that InfoWars fans are a tiny minority. Definitely not, and these people won't just disappear over this. This situation has escalated into the next phase.
Just take a look at the last couple pages and I have feeling it will drag for more pages since another Chrome-kin showed up with his hot takes.
EDIT: ...And another one lmao.
...because as he says, the next phase has been initiated.
Hold on to your butts!
EVERYTHING fits into their "narrative" though.
None of these sites do anything? Proof that everything they're doing is okay, 'cause if it wasn't, they'd be shut-down.
Just one site shows them the door? That one site is just a bully/is politically motivated and is corrupt, and the proof is that they're the only ones doing it. If it were truly wrong, they'd all be doing it. Just one though? It's that one site that's wrong, not me!
They all do it all at once, like this? It's a conspiracy! Silicon valley is out to get me! They're trying to shut down free speech! This is only the beginning.
etc.
No matter what, it "plays into their cards." Just don't worry about their cards or narrative or whatever, because they'll always twist the "narrative" to fit. Just do what's right instead about worrying about them, because they'll always be convinced they're right regardless. So just do what's right and don't even worry about it (which, in this case, is giving them as little platform as possible).
I see the edit.
Because Alex Jones is a piece of shit.
what are you talking about, the only reason Infowars got huge was because it was left unfettered on Facebook/Youtube/Twitter
that's why all these loony-bin outlets are so popular because they spread like wildfire on social media, Alex Jones might be done who knows but I don't want to see his face ever again
Yes i know i edited it because it wasn't clear that was i commenting on Sam's take on this even though his video is below my post.
Will phase 2 of the Infowars Cinematic Universe introduce new villains?
Because a huge shithead has been deplatformed. That is a good thing. This makes it harder to find his stuff or get it recommended on youtube.
What exactly is the next phase? Jones is going to rant even harder even crazier? I swear some of you are scared of your own shadows getting mad because you turned off the lights.
Oh nooooo, not the next phase...
The hell are you even blabbering about? A horrible person finally got some comeuppance after years of making people suffer, that's enough reason to celebrate.
Are you two the same person or one is an alt account? PP for initials hmm Alex Jones could make a conspiracy about you two. Exact same sentiment and paraphrasing lol