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Hip-Hop Era |OT| Bless Up
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referring FZZ's handwaving of tekashi posting himself getting blown by a thirteen year old
He wasn't the one getting blown, but yeah lol.
I hate when I accidentally film my buddy getting a blowy from a 13 year old while I smack her ass.
that's the best part of the quote lol -"plead guilty cuz he was broke
and caught on tape"
But, that's simplifying the situation.
The difference between Gunn and Hernandez lies in the nature of their "crimes." Gunn's stuff can be handwaved away as dark jokes because of his background as a fillmmaker consists of being a part of Troma, a company that's made such classics as "Attack of the Killer Condoms" and "Tromeo and Juliet" where Juliet becomes a giant cow monster with a giant penis as well as 100% more incest and crassness. Gunn literally made a movie where a female sidekick hits the protagonist on the head with a wrench and then rapes him. In short, he's been playing with taboo topics his entire career and making crass shock-jock-esque jokes on the internet is within his wheelhouse. Gunn's whole shtick at the time was derivative of John Waters: a person who's films are meant to equal parts horrify, shock, and revel in their trashiness. In addition, these were "jokes" that Disney had to have known because the alternative is that a multi-billion dollar corporation is so incompetent that it doesn't do its due diligence on its employees along. Finally, couple that with the fact these jokes were apologized for and were brought up by known shithead Mike Cernovich, and you end with up with a stew of hypocrisy, incompetence, and caving to the side with the racists, misogynists, and white nationalists.
Nothing in 6ix9ine's past really explains away what he did. The most charitable view of him is that he was a reckless teen who did something really stupid and the system's failures condemned him to a life of being called a "pedo" when he did nothing. He was a dumb kid in the wrong place at the wrong time.
For me, I just think it comes down to the idea of repentance. Gunn has tried to repent for his actions and 6ix9ine hasn't. To which you could say "If 6ix9ine hasn't done anything wrong, why should he repent? And even if he does, you can't shed the tag of "pedophile"."
In the end, it just comes down who's sin was more damning: 6ix9ine by being reckless, falling victim to a racist system, and then refusing to publicly repent, or Gunn by knowingly saying horrendous shit but then repenting & trying to be better.
Always wanted to ask you what you thought of the latest Lito, take it you like it too?
Yeah I'm not condoning or condemning either, and you're spot on about Gunn repenting and 6ix9ine not. At the same time age and education could be accounted for as well, no?
it's just that your entire post almost perfectly summed up both circumstances, you thought about both situations critically and came to a perfectly logical conclusion. But instead most of the replies and comments will be simplified and magnified into posts like these
On a site where we constantly see stories of people who get lost in the system for being at the wrong place in the wrong time, where hundreds of posters claim to state their displeasure. We have one example of a person that was in that situation and became successful literally against all odds. But because that person doesn't fit their idea of what a good individual should be, their success isn't celebrated (not that everyone's should be), it is condemned much more than the system itself.
And people wonder why there is no change in the justice system at all.
It's fucking fascinating to me.
And trust me I love memeing as much as anyone on here
it's fucking fun, but sometimes the malice can be very easy to spot
and I think it lies in either an internal conflict or deep hatred that hasn't been confronted
also yeah I realize how fucking wild all of these posts are talking about a rainbow haired troll who pled guilty of using a 13-year-old child in a sexual performance when he was eighteen years old.
I just think if you think about the situation entirely and how people react to it, it's fucking crazy and perfectly sums up the time we live in.
it's fucking fun, but sometimes the malice can be very easy to spot
and I think it lies in either an internal conflict or deep hatred that hasn't been confronted
also yeah I realize how fucking wild all of these posts are talking about a rainbow haired troll who pled guilty of using a 13-year-old child in a sexual performance when he was eighteen years old.
I just think if you think about the situation entirely and how people react to it, it's fucking crazy and perfectly sums up the time we live in.
i just don't fuck with people who do that shit homie. but of all the examples of how supremely racist and generally fucked up the justice system is, a dude getting "caught" posting his homie getting blown on snapchat by a minor and then facing fairly minor legal repercussions isn't really illustrative of that fucked up system
I also think the other thing that tilts people against 6ix9ine is just the excuse "I thought she was an adult."
I think people just don't believe that you can mistake how old someone looks. The thing the complaint notes is that 6ix9ine stated he never had a reason to doubt the girl's age so he never checked. In addition, he claims he didn't do anything with the girl, only miming thrusting and slapping her butt. But, that's only what the videos uploaded show. 6ix9ine claims that he did nothing to the girl, that no one there had sex with her, and that he thought she was legal. Thing is, you can't prove any of that. For all we know, 69 could have known she was underage and still had sex with her. 6ix9ine also allegedly had sex with another underage girl, this time knowingly, but again, you can't prove that. The victim at the heart of the case hasn't spoken out either, so we don't know her perspective either.
In essence, you can't prove 6ix9ine had sex with underage girls and you can't prove that he didn't. To the court of public opinion, it comes down to the fact the dude is an admitted scumbag so it only makes sense that he did it because that's what scumbags do. Scumbags don't apologize, scumbags don't repent, scumbags just continue to do stupid life-endangering shit.
Yes, people on the internet call him a pedo, but that shit doesn't mean anything.
I think people just don't believe that you can mistake how old someone looks. The thing the complaint notes is that 6ix9ine stated he never had a reason to doubt the girl's age so he never checked. In addition, he claims he didn't do anything with the girl, only miming thrusting and slapping her butt. But, that's only what the videos uploaded show. 6ix9ine claims that he did nothing to the girl, that no one there had sex with her, and that he thought she was legal. Thing is, you can't prove any of that. For all we know, 69 could have known she was underage and still had sex with her. 6ix9ine also allegedly had sex with another underage girl, this time knowingly, but again, you can't prove that. The victim at the heart of the case hasn't spoken out either, so we don't know her perspective either.
In essence, you can't prove 6ix9ine had sex with underage girls and you can't prove that he didn't. To the court of public opinion, it comes down to the fact the dude is an admitted scumbag so it only makes sense that he did it because that's what scumbags do. Scumbags don't apologize, scumbags don't repent, scumbags just continue to do stupid life-endangering shit.
But also this. For fuck's sake, we're the only folks handwringing about 6ix9ine's fame. 6ix9ine still has a Billboard Top 100 hit. He's still going on tour with Nicki Minaj. He's still gaining millions of streams and views. He's still getting rich and famous in spite of this. As far as victims of the system goes, he's not really one of them.
Yes, people on the internet call him a pedo, but that shit doesn't mean anything.
I don't think he's a victim at all
I think he's someone who could have gotten stuck and lost in there forever
but didn't
he is just one example of a success story
and it's a pretty fucked story, but hey dude made millions and will still make millions
It doesn't but I just see a hypocrisy that exists
and it isn't really the internet (internet is hypocritical like 99% of the time) as a whole, but rather people that do immediately 100% side with Gunn but condemn a 6ix9ine. It gives me pause because of everything we just talked about.
I think he's someone who could have gotten stuck and lost in there forever
but didn't
he is just one example of a success story
and it's a pretty fucked story, but hey dude made millions and will still make millions
It doesn't but I just see a hypocrisy that exists
and it isn't really the internet (internet is hypocritical like 99% of the time) as a whole, but rather people that do immediately 100% side with Gunn but condemn a 6ix9ine. It gives me pause because of everything we just talked about.
it was good, you can tell he's in a weird place right now, he's been putting out a lot of emotional work
Yeah I'm not really seeing the hypocrisy here, not to mention there are vocal PoC defending Gunn here and IRL. And if we're talking about perceptions of justice, where was this energy when X died?
Please listen to your OGs in this thread FZZ habibi - this ain't it
Also please don't use 'yakubs' at least outside of this thread as it might confuse ousiders; this aint the coli
Art Barr
Also please don't use 'yakubs' at least outside of this thread as it might confuse ousiders; this aint the coli
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my thoughts from a minute ago before I saw all this fuckery:
Well, I listened to Swimming, and while it ain't bad I'm definitely not feeling it like everyone else seems to be. In fact, I'd say I'd take ASTROWORLD over it. Now it's time to log in to ResetERA.com and post what will surely be the hottest take in Hip-Hop Era today.
Well, I listened to Swimming, and while it ain't bad I'm definitely not feeling it like everyone else seems to be. In fact, I'd say I'd take ASTROWORLD over it. Now it's time to log in to ResetERA.com and post what will surely be the hottest take in Hip-Hop Era today.
Kaiba era is now
I don't think he made it, but yeah he did distribute that shit.
If he was 17 I think the perception would be vastly different.
It definitely isn't it
But I'm just imagining a dude who never went to high school and I am like
without that formal education and coming from anything that resembles a stable home, I am just not as angry about it as other people are
edit: Aight last thing imma say. I obviously do not condone any type of child abuse and I think the parties involved that should have been prosecuted i.e literally everyone involved got what they deserved. I believe Tekashi's sentencing was completely fine and deserved, but at the same time there is some nuance involved in HIS particular case. Everyone else like the Anderson guy can rot in hell and if 6ix9ine supported that dude in any way and was friends with him then fuck him too. I'm giving the dude the benefit of the doubt for now, because even though he's a troll and master marketer/manipulator until I see stronger evidence him being more than that, that's all he is.
I will now no longer ever mention Tekashi here or on this site ever again. Except for music snippets, new songs, or concerts. Heh.
TR3YWAY
I don't think he made it, but yeah he did distribute that shit.
If he was 17 I think the perception would be vastly different.
It definitely isn't it
But I'm just imagining a dude who never went to high school and I am like
without that formal education and coming from anything that resembles a stable home, I am just not as angry about it as other people are
edit: Aight last thing imma say. I obviously do not condone any type of child abuse and I think the parties involved that should have been prosecuted i.e literally everyone involved got what they deserved. I believe Tekashi's sentencing was completely fine and deserved, but at the same time there is some nuance involved in HIS particular case. Everyone else like the Anderson guy can rot in hell and if 6ix9ine supported that dude in any way and was friends with him then fuck him too. I'm giving the dude the benefit of the doubt for now, because even though he's a troll and master marketer/manipulator until I see stronger evidence him being more than that, that's all he is.
I will now no longer ever mention Tekashi here or on this site ever again. Except for music snippets, new songs, or concerts. Heh.
TR3YWAY
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...true. Live your dreams, Kyle, even if they include a DTV-level film.
Trippie Redd tracklist:
Astroworld was better than birds but worse than Rodeo
Really ended up enjoying: Stargazing, Sicko Mode, 5% Tint, NC-17 (nut on her cheek now she's baby face hardest line of 2018), Yosemite, Can't Say, Who? What?, and Houstonfornication.
Primary issues were just that thematically it wasn't as cohesive as Rodeo, at the same time it did have more of a theme than Birds. Travis has really gotten big and I think him putting great effort into performances and his art as a whole played a huge role in that. He is honestly coming closer to that Kendrick, Cole level of artistry than I ever thought he would. He's definitely separated himself from the Uzi, Thugger tier that he was in before. Not as an MC of course, just in terms of popularity.
Wonder if his shoes played a role in that tbh.
Really ended up enjoying: Stargazing, Sicko Mode, 5% Tint, NC-17 (nut on her cheek now she's baby face hardest line of 2018), Yosemite, Can't Say, Who? What?, and Houstonfornication.
Primary issues were just that thematically it wasn't as cohesive as Rodeo, at the same time it did have more of a theme than Birds. Travis has really gotten big and I think him putting great effort into performances and his art as a whole played a huge role in that. He is honestly coming closer to that Kendrick, Cole level of artistry than I ever thought he would. He's definitely separated himself from the Uzi, Thugger tier that he was in before. Not as an MC of course, just in terms of popularity.
Wonder if his shoes played a role in that tbh.
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so happy to see Dark Knight Dummo and How You Feel on here
yea i havent listened to the whole thing but the tracks ive heard are really good. he got the melodies
yall think I could put salesman on my linkedin since my ass been unemployed the past 8 months and the only way I have been making money has been through reselling?
I'm honestly surprised to see that he left this off.
Die Lit still AOTY
Man FF XV is dope as hell. And how do people manage to not follow the plot? Shit's pretty straightforward so far.
also my baes KOHH and Xavier Wulf collabed on a song on Wulf's new album. it bangs ofc
also my baes KOHH and Xavier Wulf collabed on a song on Wulf's new album. it bangs ofc
Also KOHH is like legit one of the greatest in trap, hands down. The productions are always top notch
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