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daybreak

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Feb 28, 2018
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The delay is almost certainly the multiplayer aspect. Given the large delays associated with Nintendo's online services, I wouldn't be surprised if they've massively revamped/reworked their online functionality plans over the last year, and that rework has caused delays in developing the net code and functionality for multiplayer titles. It's also my working theory for why there aren't more multiplayer titles out there as of yet.

There were long-form videos of this game running flawlessly through the entirety of Blighttown and most of the first sections of the game weeks before the initial release date, I have a hard time believing it was the core game itself having issues.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The delay is almost certainly the multiplayer aspect. Given the large delays associated with Nintendo's online services, I wouldn't be surprised if they've massively revamped/reworked their online functionality plans over the last year, and that rework has caused delays in developing the net code and functionality for multiplayer titles. It's also my working theory for why there aren't more multiplayer titles out there as of yet.

There were long-form videos of this game running flawlessly through the entirety of Blighttown and most of the first sections of the game weeks before the initial release date, I have a hard time believing it was the core game itself having issues.

But there are many mp games available on the switch?!
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
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But there are many mp games available on the switch?!

It's always possible that whatever multiplayer code that FROM/Virtuos had in DS didn't play nice with upcoming Nintendo's online service.

It wouldn't be the first time a game was delayed because of an upcoming patch/firmware/system update, Manticore Galaxy on Fire had to be delayed several weeks because a new firmware update introduced a massive new bug which had to be corrected and the game recertified.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's always possible that whatever multiplayer code that FROM/Virtuos had in DS didn't play nice with upcoming Nintendo's online service.

It wouldn't be the first time a game was delayed because of an upcoming patch/firmware/system update, Manticore Galaxy on Fire had to be delayed several weeks because a new firmware update introduced a massive new bug which had to be corrected and the game recertified.
Yeah this could be the reason but I still can't believe that we don't get a release date/ release month. Well Salt & Sanctuary is coming this week at least ..
 
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spam musubi

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's always possible that whatever multiplayer code that FROM/Virtuos had in DS didn't play nice with upcoming Nintendo's online service.

It wouldn't be the first time a game was delayed because of an upcoming patch/firmware/system update, Manticore Galaxy on Fire had to be delayed several weeks because a new firmware update introduced a massive new bug which had to be corrected and the game recertified.

If that's the case, I wonder if games that are already out would have new bugs in the new firmware, requiring patching from their developers? Considering some games haven't gotten patched in a while, if they get new bugs from the new firmware that would suck if they never got fixed.
 

Irrotational

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Nintendo has historically never been bothered by that, why now? Dark Souls is less popular and important than you'd think.

Amiibo shortage is the norm, never the issue.
Yeah I'm sure you're right. I more meant a complete lack of amiibo rather than limited quantity, but mainly because it would be ironic rather than actually likely.
 

Haze

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Oct 25, 2017
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lmfao
 

Skittzo

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If that's the case, I wonder if games that are already out would have new bugs in the new firmware, requiring patching from their developers? Considering some games haven't gotten patched in a while, if they get new bugs from the new firmware that would suck if they never got fixed.

Yeah I'm guessing that's possible but probably extremely rare.

Or maybe older, previously released games built for a specific firmware version have a way of booting in only that firmware environment. The major issue with Manticore IIRC was that the new firmware version was released like 2-3 days before the game was set to launch, so it would be launched on that firmware version.
 

YolkFolk

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Oct 27, 2017
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Reason this was delayed is because the Switch version was getting good word of mouth in forums and on social media.

Many hardcore fans of the series were also considering the Switch version because the art style was closer to the original but in a higher resolution.

They wanted the other versions to sell better so delayed the Switch version, hoping people would double dip further down the line.

I'm not buying it anymore.
 

spam musubi

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Oct 25, 2017
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Reason this was delayed is because the Switch version was getting good word of mouth in forums and on social media.

Many hardcore fans of the series were also considering the Switch version because the art style was closer to the original but in a higher resolution.

They wanted the other versions to sell better so delayed the Switch version, hoping people would double dip further down the line.

I'm not buying it anymore.

There is literally no evidence to support this insane conspiracy theory.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Normal brain: Dark Souls Switch was delayed because of technical issues probably.
Big Brain: Dark Souls Switch was delayed so that Bamco could profit off double dippers even though the PS4/Xbox One versions didn't sell that well at all
Galaxy Brain: Dark Souls Switch was delayed to promote Nintendo's online service even though it's from Bamco and Nintendo hasn't bothered to promote the online service in literally any other way.
Multiverse Brain: Dark Souls Switch was delayed so that it would sell worse than the PS4 and Xbox One versions.
 

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The delay is almost certainly the multiplayer aspect. Given the large delays associated with Nintendo's online services, I wouldn't be surprised if they've massively revamped/reworked their online functionality plans over the last year, and that rework has caused delays in developing the net code and functionality for multiplayer titles. It's also my working theory for why there aren't more multiplayer titles out there as of yet.

There were long-form videos of this game running flawlessly through the entirety of Blighttown and most of the first sections of the game weeks before the initial release date, I have a hard time believing it was the core game itself having issues.

This is so optimistic.
 

hibikase

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Oct 26, 2017
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Maybe they are waiting for the larger carts to become available

Why do people keep this misconception alive? There are already 32GB cards since day one. Publishers go for the smallest possible carts they can get away with because they are greedy as fuck and want minimize costs as much as possible, not because bigger cards don't exist.
 

Bunkles

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Reason this was delayed is because the Switch version was getting good word of mouth in forums and on social media.

Many hardcore fans of the series were also considering the Switch version because the art style was closer to the original but in a higher resolution.

They wanted the other versions to sell better so delayed the Switch version, hoping people would double dip further down the line.

I'm not buying it anymore.

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spam musubi

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why do people keep this misconception alive? There are already 32GB cards since day one. Publishers go for the smallest possible carts they can get away with because they are greedy as fuck and want minimize costs as much as possible, not because bigger cards don't exist.

One could argue that larger carts becoming available might also come with a cost reduction in previously-existing carts (but I don't think the post you quoted is arguing that).
 

Soap

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Oct 27, 2017
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Why do people keep this misconception alive? There are already 32GB cards since day one. Publishers go for the smallest possible carts they can get away with because they are greedy as fuck and want minimize costs as much as possible, not because bigger cards don't exist.
I had no idea what size the game is, and for that reason I was speculating about the delay of 64GB cards to 2019.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....64gb-switch-game-card-release-until-2019/amp/

As I have been corrected many times on the game's size it hardly seems relevant anyway.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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why not be open about it? i mean if a developer told me we are delaying the game because reason X i would totally understand.

But we only got "Due to the nature of causality" witch is extremely vague
because this is how from software rolls

they are sometimes overly secretive about issues they have, leading to miscommunication with fans

remember the dark souls 2 lighting debacle?

remember how people thought poise was bugged in dark souls 3 just because they didn't want to explain how it worked other than a short "it's working as intended"
 
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because this is how from software rolls

they are sometimes overly secretive about issues they have, leading to miscommunication with fans

remember the dark souls 2 lightning debacle?

remember how people thought poise was bugged in dark souls 3 just because they didn't want to explain how it worked other than a short "it's working as intended"

I'm not sure From is to blame for the lack of communication since I think they're barely involved with this port.
 

Skittzo

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The Blighttown argument never made sense though cause we saw it running well in that are the first time the game was shown off. That was never an issue. MP also makes no sense either.

Well MP is different than Blighttown because we've never seen the MP actually in use.

We don't know what went on in development of the game, the online component may have run into a very unfortunate snag for any number of reasons.
 

Nick C

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Reason this was delayed is because the Switch version was getting good word of mouth in forums and on social media.

Many hardcore fans of the series were also considering the Switch version because the art style was closer to the original but in a higher resolution.

They wanted the other versions to sell better so delayed the Switch version, hoping people would double dip further down the line.

I'm not buying it anymore.
Is this real? Are you a real person?
 

NateDrake

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Oct 24, 2017
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Reason this was delayed is because the Switch version was getting good word of mouth in forums and on social media.

Many hardcore fans of the series were also considering the Switch version because the art style was closer to the original but in a higher resolution.

They wanted the other versions to sell better so delayed the Switch version, hoping people would double dip further down the line.

I'm not buying it anymore.
No. Not at all.
 

Shark

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Oct 28, 2017
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Reason this was delayed is because the Switch version was getting good word of mouth in forums and on social media.

Many hardcore fans of the series were also considering the Switch version because the art style was closer to the original but in a higher resolution.

They wanted the other versions to sell better so delayed the Switch version, hoping people would double dip further down the line.

I'm not buying it anymore.
Why exactly do they want the other versions to sell better? What is the benefit to From?
 

Boiled Goose

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Nov 2, 2017
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Reason this was delayed is because the Switch version was getting good word of mouth in forums and on social media.

Many hardcore fans of the series were also considering the Switch version because the art style was closer to the original but in a higher resolution.

They wanted the other versions to sell better so delayed the Switch version, hoping people would double dip further down the line.

I'm not buying it anymore.

The fact that you're not buying it anymore undercuts your insane argument.

In fact, it proves how nonsensical it is.
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
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There is no evidence of anything, but delayed because of multiplayer doesnt make sense to me.

It may not make much sense, yeah, but it's more reasonable than any other theory I've seen.

1) They couldn't get the game running well

We have footage of the games most intensive areas running very well

2) Nintendo wanted it to launch with their online service


Then why did they purchase the exclusive marketing right for a reveal which stated the release date was in May?

3) Bamco wanted to delay it so it didn't compete with DKTF

Why would they care if it released near a port of a 2D platformer when plenty of other games released in the same time frame? Why would they reveal it originally in the same Direct as DKTF, and with Nintendo handling publishing/distribution in Europe NoE at the very least would have known DKTF's release date before DS was revealed?

4) Bamco wanted to delay it so that the other versions could sell

.... no. Makes absolutely no sense, considering it was the lead platform from the announcement.

5) Something about the netcode/online infrastructure of the game caused a major problem behind the scenes that warranted a months long delay

I don't see any evidence for this but I also don't have any compelling argument against this.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Reason this was delayed is because the Switch version was getting good word of mouth in forums and on social media.

Many hardcore fans of the series were also considering the Switch version because the art style was closer to the original but in a higher resolution.

They wanted the other versions to sell better so delayed the Switch version, hoping people would double dip further down the line.

I'm not buying it anymore.
Ah the rockstar double dip move. Dark Souls isn't GTA. Don't think that would work. I'm already over it. Got the PC version. I'll grab the switch version on sale..too much to play now anyway.
 

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whoever was in charge of this port really messed up. it could have been a decent hit with the amiibo and the marketing nintendo was going to give it, but coming so long after the other versions and still with no release date or clear reason for the delay, i think many people have moved on. by the time it comes out it'll be old news. i would still get it probably but they seriously butchered this port's launch.
also this thread is full of crazy, it's pretty fun to read. lol @ the donkey kong stuff
 

KratosEnergyDrink

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Oct 27, 2017
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The delay is probably just caused by some mismanagement by Bamco. The game is probably ready since months.

The delay could be a result of some marketing "experts" idea that wanted to get double dippers with a late Switch version, or simply some production mismanagement.
 

unicornKnight

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Oct 27, 2017
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There is literally no evidence to support this insane conspiracy theory.
No man it makes total sense, I was in a McDonald's yesterday and they said they run out of burgers so I ordered some potatoes and nuggets and then they told me "ok we have burgers now" so I got some of those two. Corps do such tricks all the time.

Not true story
 

Piichan

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Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah, cancelled my Amazon order for this. Too many games now to play, so I'll get it when I can find it used/discounted at some point.
 

Vylder

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Oct 25, 2017
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It was only delayed so they could add Ridley as an exclusive boss to the Switch version!
 

LogN-

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Oct 30, 2017
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I have a very strong feeling it's getting cancelled and it hasn't been announced yet as Bamco tries to figure out the contract with the Solaire Amiibo.
 

zma1013

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Oct 27, 2017
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Uhh guys, the obvious reason it's delayed is because they are remaking Lost Izalith. Duh.