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Android 18

Member
Jun 26, 2018
154
I guess Nintendo doesn't need them anymore, now that they don't plan to sell roms for Virtual Console anymore. Wasn't there some proof that the version of Super Mario Bros used on VC was taken from a rom online?
 

Weltall Zero

Game Developer
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
19,343
Madrid
I wonder why they even bother, it's a losing battle, piracy is like a hydra, cut off one of its head and 2 will take its place. So long as they can host their sites in unscrupulous locations, it's never going to change.

But it also makes sense to go after this particular low-hanging fruit rather than allow them to profit from letting people play Nintendo games illegally. Also, don't companies have to go after copyright infringers or they lose some rights, or something? Or am I making this up?
 

JaseC64

Enlightened
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,008
Strong Island NY
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Let's go back to this again.
Why are those games being destroyed!! Ahh, that hurts!!
 

Syril

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,895
But it also makes sense to go after this particular low-hanging fruit rather than allow them to profit from letting people play Nintendo games illegally. Also, don't companies have to go after copyright infringers or they lose some rights, or something? Or am I making this up?
I'm pretty sure that's trademarks.
 
Oct 30, 2017
5,006
Nintendo is well within their rights to do this. But, Nintendo, just a thought: I'd LOVE to purchase these games on switch, but you don't seem interested in taking my money for your incredible suite of legacy games.
 

Antitype

Member
Oct 27, 2017
439
But it also makes sense to go after this particular low-hanging fruit rather than allow them to profit from letting people play Nintendo games illegally. Also, don't companies have to go after copyright infringers or they lose some rights, or something? Or am I making this up?

Well they will get this site down and owner if indeed American will face legal repercussions, but we all know there will be another site with the same offering appearing sooner or later and at the end of the day their games will still be made available. That's why IMO it's pointless.
Also I don't think that applies to piracy, only if they were commercializing them. I know what you're talking about, but don't know all the intricacies.
 

Cheezeman3000

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jan 5, 2018
1,092
IIRC those sites where the only remaining ones hosting first party Nintendo games.
This is the key. I've seen a few other prominent sites out there with ROMs, but they don't host any games that they've received take-down requests on. I'm guessing these sites were ignoring those requests.
 

WetWaffle

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,604
User Banned (3 days): Do not discuss, condone or advocate for piracy.
Pretty shitty of nintendo to do this, they're the only publisher that do this. And I assume there's going to be huge backlash in the emulating and pirating scene. Anecdote: One of my buddies in college started pirating nintendo games because of that nintendo take down of emuParadise then moved on to other publishers . His reasoning was spite and to "...what if other developers do the same?!"
 

MegaXZero

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jun 21, 2018
5,079
Pretty shitty of nintendo to do this, they're the only publisher that do this. And I assume there's going to be huge backlash in the emulating and pirating scene. Anecdote: One of my buddies in college started pirating nintendo games because of that nintendo take down of emuParadise then moved on to other publishers . His reasoning was spite and to "...what if other developers do the same?!"
Nintendo is suing websites distributing ROMs illegally. It's piracy.
 
Jun 23, 2018
774
Canada
Eh, in all likelihood they'll just keep their database but any Nintendo game you'd click would say unavailable.

Hey Nintendo, how bout you... release SNES games on the switch? And make them a worthwhile investment that's not gonna be stuck there and liable to disappear the moment you make a new platform? Better solution.
 

Wololo

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Nov 20, 2017
1,564
This is so weird a large chunk of those games aren't even being sold anymore. Is Nintendo planning to start selling N64/GBA/GBC games again? Id love it if they did. And id support them I want a complete boxed copies of the earlier Pokemon games. But they cost so much because they are out of production.
 

mattiewheels

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,107
What I am always in awe of is how an absolutely enormous rom site like Emuparadise is still around. What magic are they pulling to stay alive with that huge a collection (and that site that hasn't changed since like 2001).
 

Bitanator

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,056
I'm confused. It did look like they removed a small handful of titles from there but there's still tons of Nintendo's first party stuff - in fact I don't even know what's missing.

The last time I checked all the first party games were no longer hosted there, it was nuclear. Maybe they posted them all back
 

CenturionNami

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Nov 2, 2017
5,230
User Banned (3 days): Do not discuss, condone or advocate for piracy.
And yet people will defend Nintendo for this disgusting act just because it's Nintendo.
 

Deleted member 5535

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,656
Pretty shitty of nintendo to do this, they're the only publisher that do this. And I assume there's going to be huge backlash in the emulating and pirating scene. Anecdote: One of my buddies in college started pirating nintendo games because of that nintendo take down of emuParadise then moved on to other publishers . His reasoning was spite and to "...what if other developers do the same?!"
And yet people will defend Nintendo for this disgusting act just because it's Nintendo.

Lmao what the fuck is this reasoning.

Eh, in all likelihood they'll just keep their database but any Nintendo game you'd click would say unavailable.

Hey Nintendo, how bout you... release SNES games on the switch? And make them a worthwhile investment that's not gonna be stuck there and liable to disappear the moment you make a new platform? Better solution.
Nintendo is well within their rights to do this. But, Nintendo, just a thought: I'd LOVE to purchase these games on switch, but you don't seem interested in taking my money for your incredible suite of legacy games.

Those games from SNES are obviously coming to the Switch in the online service after the batch of NES titles.
 

Deleted member 7450

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Oct 25, 2017
3,842
Checked emuparadise and sure enough, the first party stuff is back there again. Even though the sticky on the forums says it is restricted to upload them.

Weird. :v
 

Kyry

Member
Oct 27, 2017
840
Maybe im just yelling at a cloud here, but I'm amazed these places still exist? Its not like the SNES romset is still growing. Maybe the classic systems sparked an interest?
 

MattWilsonCSS

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,349
nintendo: our games have a lot of value and piracy shows that our consumers clearly want them
me the consumer: okay so if you recognize that, can you bring Gamecube titles to the Switch so I can buy them?
nintendo: no
 

KratosEnergyDrink

Using an alt account to circumvent a ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,523
Maybe im just yelling at a cloud here, but I'm amazed these places still exist? Its not like the SNES romset is still growing. Maybe the classic systems sparked an interest?

Its cheap to run these sites. Easy money some people think, but some people will not regret running those sites sor the rest of their life.
 

TripaSeca

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,762
São Paulo
I wonder what drives someone to even build a website like this. And to do so without paranoic layers of anonimity would be silly....
 

jotun?

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,506
Somebody who downloads a rom for non-archival purposes wouldn't necessarily be willing to pay for a legitimate copy of the rom. So the revenue lost is greater than zero, but indeterminate.
You're right about indeterminate, but not necessarily about revenue lost being greater than zero. It's entirely possible that ROM piracy and emulators have actually helped them by keeping these old games relevant. But again, indeterminate, practically indeterminable.
 

Turrican3

Member
Oct 27, 2017
781
Italy
The only way you can combat piracy is providing an easier alternative, which Nintendo doesn't seem keen on doing.
That would only work if Nintendo offered said games for free, which obviously isn't happening.

Having said that, I hope a strong virtual console AND arcade archives will be a thing someday. The latter is somewhat slowly coming, while the former... we'll see.
 

Deleted member 8791

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,383
When the Nintendo Online Service starts growing it's library and it's confirmed the library moves on to Switch 2, Nintendo will be in a good place with its backlog. Just a shame it takes time to get going.
 

Kudo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,893
Nintendo really should provide a way for people to enjoy these gems legally.
Release NES/SNES Catalog somehow, 99 cent per game. They won't though.
 

Deleted member 5535

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,656
Nintendo really should provide a way for people to enjoy these gems legally.
Release NES/SNES Catalog somehow, 99 cent per game. They won't though.

They already confirmed that it's going to be via online subscription.
Purchase without a shitty online subscription. And not four years from now after they drip feed ice climbers to us for the 30th time.

A shitty online subscription is 100x better than a stupid VC model that is already old. I'll pay less for it the same quantity of games instead of buy them and pay more. I like this model and to get something cheaper as well.
 

TLZ

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,332
Oh fuck off Nintendo. Instead of shutting these down, give us all these NES and SNES ROMs on your system. They're kbs for God's sake and it shouldn't be too hard to have them streamed from the cloud already, like many sites do, instead of having to wait years. And have them available for a very attractive price, not $5-10 a game.

And I recall Nintendo using these ROMs for the NES and SNES minis.

Just leave them alone and do your job right.
 

Einherjer

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,924
Germany
It's no secret anyone with a bit of research and with the right tools can download Nintendo's own catalogue of ROMs (and that includes everything on their eshop including every 3DS and WII U game, dunno about switch) from their own servers and that's possible for years now, these sites are useless.
 
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New Fang

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,542
nintendo: our games have a lot of value and piracy shows that our consumers clearly want them
me the consumer: okay so if you recognize that, can you bring Gamecube titles to the Switch so I can buy them?
nintendo: no
GameCube? You're shooting for the moon there buddy. How about NES and SNES?

And no, an online subscription with 20 games isn't the same.
 

Deleted member 8791

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,383
Oh fuck off Nintendo. Instead of shutting these down, give us all these NES and SNES ROMs on your system. They're kbs for God's sake and it shouldn't be too hard to have them streamed from the cloud already, like many sites do, instead of having to wait years. And have them available for a very attractive price, not $5-10 a game.

And I recall Nintendo using these ROMs for the NES and SNES minis.

Just leave them alone and do your job right.
I doubt the lawyers doing this for Nintendo aren't involved with putting this content on Switch, and thus shouldn't result in any delay. I have a very hard time seeing this spinned in a bad way for Nintendo but people are obviously doing their best!