Well he used to be the head of the refs association. Hes a man with a ton of experience anyway.
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Well he used to be the head of the refs association. Hes a man with a ton of experience anyway.
He was the ref for a grand total of one major competition game.
Hasn't been in function with FIFA since 2002.
He was demoted twice from the premier league.
If that's your reference you have a way to go.
Shit your right. Damn that backfired. Still don't think it was a peno though.
It was a handball because the precedent was set earlier during the group stage where VAR awarded penatlies for even softer and limper low hanging arms then this.
if you are going to awarded it for one limp arm in Iran x Portugal, than you awarded for a all handballs no matter what.
I don't like it, but the VAR precedent is set.
if people don't like it, then it should be reviewed for future tournaments.
But if we start looking at "intent" we then open it up to interpretation
if you are going to awarded it for one limp arm in Iran x Portugal, than you awarded for a all handballs no matter what.
I don't like it, but the VAR precedent is set.
if people don't like it, then it should be reviewed for future tournaments.
But if we start looking at "intent" we then open it up to interpretation
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Not the first time d9b has an anti-french resentment..I remember arguing with him on Macron .
That's my point actually. They need to remove the "deliberate" from the rule. If the hand touch the ball and the arm is not sticked to the body then it's penalty.
Most of the time the players don't want to stop the ball with the hand, and i'm sure it was the case here, Mandzukic is not that stupid and it goes really fast but there was a penalty based only on the fact that the ball trajectory was changed a lot.
Allez les Bleus sel!
Don't kill the messenger....
To say yesterday's win was controversial is an understatement...
The list goes on and on, lol!
Oh, ok, I didn't get that from your post!
Yeah we do agree on that part, then! :)
Anti-french resentment? Fuck off with that shit.
And yes, I don't like Manu. But I don't like Putin as well. Also Trump. Sue me.
Did i touch a nerve ? :P
Anyways let's go back to the topic..We are world champs !!
He moved his hand towards the ball when it was close, it's not like his arm was up and in the direction of the ball beforehand. We can never know intent, unless we create a mind probing machine...
Who cares, Croatia was only able to score one goal. Remove the "controversial" goals and that's still 2-1.
France wins.
You accusing me of being anti-french and also resentment of french people. So yeah, you better produce some receipts...
Yeah France wins anyway. Its not as if they won the WC on that goal.
To me that was a penalty. The guy is clearly looking at the ball coming and moving his arm down towards the ball hoping to deflect it. If he wasnt looking at the ball, its one thing. He clearly was. He knew what he was doing.
When people dont wanna to touch the ball with their arms, they move their arms away from the ball, not towards it.
That's not how that works. Change one event, and the whole chain of following events is completely changed.
Croatia would have gone in ahead at HT. Llrois' mistake could have handed them the trophy.
What might have been on another day
I know, that's why the "it should've been 2-2" is dumb.
No one knows what would've happen if those "controversial goals" (personally I think both were ok) didn't happen. For all that we know, France could've scored more than that.
Lloris' mistake wouldn't happen because he would not try that without the 3 goal lead with only 15min left.
We could also say that Croatia wouldn't score because the drive to equalize wouldn't be there.
It's pointless to do this kind of things and while Croatia played well, France was way more clinical in their offense.
There was a lot of referee errors on BOTH sides, it's just that France managed to capitalize on this one.
Its football.
And we can replay the match 20 times i'll still put France winning 9 times out of 10 . Croatia played incredibly well and France badly for their normal level ( kante was sick ) , but in the end croatia , with all their beautiful play and ball possession that they had, was rarely really dangerous, less than france even with such a bad game on france side.
Gary Neville said it well , it's like seeing a middleweight and a heavyweight fight, middleweight can dance and do the show, but when the heavyweight punch ...
The better team is the one that make the goals.
I love how they tweaked the lyrics to say he's a cheater!... apparently he was cheating like a crazy bastard when playing cards with his teammates! :D
Of course
it just sucks when a blatantly obvious dive leads to a 1:0 in the world cup final just to have Croatia come back and then have a controversial penalty give France the lead again.
I have no problem with France winning and they were among the teams I was rooting for but this could have been a much better final game
Welcome to World Cup finals :D
Smart move by Griezmann, Perisic was late and it would've been a free kick anyway. He just avoided any potential injury.
That was a fun ride... I'm checking out...Shame next Word Cup is in Qatar.
After all said and done, hope there's no hard feelings and...
Congrats France Era !!! ;)
After all said and done, hope there's no hard feelings and...
Congrats France Era !!! ;)
Focus on the croatian: its ABSOLUTELY OBVIOUS his intent is not to play the ball. He is going straight to his legs.Welcome to World Cup finals :D
Griezman felt the charge coming and played it well. Stupid mistake from Perisic, paid cash.
Isn't that part of the game?
He pulled it off beautifully. I think in real time it was impossible for any ref to see that.
At worst it might hurt his rep with future refs who will be slower to award a foul but it helped his country win the WC and I bet almost all players would have tried the same thing if they could get away with it.
All the soccer fans complain about it all the time but I feel like literally everyone does it. And nothing is done to address it so we may as well get used to it.
I agree it was not the way anybody was seeing the first half of the match, but the penalty was not controversial ;) we don't know if the defender was voluntarily cheating or made a stupid mistake ( the gif pushes more for the former reason), but it's on him on both cases.
So then what happens when you have this scenario again?
That's still a penalty? Seems ultra harsh for a ball-to-hand that the player had no control over. This is why I don't think the solution is to get rid of the "deliberate" wording.
So then what happens when you have this scenario again?
That's still a penalty? Seems ultra harsh for a ball-to-hand that the player had no control over. This is why I don't think the solution is to get rid of the "deliberate" wording.
Problem is that the course of the ball is modified. Leaving it up to interpretation is what makes it so hard for people to know exactly if something can be considered as a fault or not.
As hard as it can look, I think that any change of trajectory with a "forbidden" part of the body which prevent a potential goal opportunity (as in any situation where the offensive can take advantage of the initial course of the ball) shall be whistled.
Yeah sometimes it's hard but at least it could bring consistency to those kind of calls.
be the change you wish to see lol. nobody stopped me posting the stuff I wanted to in here
24 hours later, it's actually kinda scary how France never looked in a hurry. They only really went down vs Argentina for 9 minutes, and besides the Belgium match they always seemed in control of play. There hasn't been been such a thoroughly "comfortable" performance from a Champion since 2002.
That didn't impact the game. Croatia were awarded a free kick from a weak call and equalized.
Yup. People were shitting on them after every single game but they never look threatened throughout this World Cup.
98 was a lot harder in comparison.
Outside of the group stage, the final against Brazil was the easiest game.
But Paraguay, Italy and Croatia were all tough
Massive Take the L dance or bust.Waiting for the players' bus to arrive
