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"You're nothing": Joe Biden rape victim comes forward in brave audio interview [up: she filed a criminal complaint]
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Russia playing the long game, making US voters choose between two rapists in the 2020 general election...
Come the fuck on. Not everything is a god damn conspiracy just cause it hurts the Dems.
Like, if this was a Russian conspiracy, why now and not, y'know, October? When they could deliver the maximum damage with as little time to recover as possible?
Perhaps not
Ok say it it true then - Sad.. but he is STILL better than Trump.
This is pathetic.
Believe women, believe accusers
Maybe it's surfaced again now because people don't want a rapist as their candidate.
Nah it's clearly because she's a Russian plant, since she once said something good about Putin
Jesus guys,
A Russian plant with a long-game would not write a pro-Putin screed. Like that would be the opposite of what you would want to do.
She seems to have gone down a Noam Chomsky American-Imperialism is to blame for everything while ignoring all the bad things other countries did rabbit hole.
It's a known thing in certain far left circles where you point to Americas really fucked up actions and ignore that sometimes the people on the other end also sucked horribly.
It's basically Chomskys bread and butter.
The Putin love letter is weird, but irrelevant to anything to do with the rape.
A Russian plant with a long-game would not write a pro-Putin screed. Like that would be the opposite of what you would want to do.
She seems to have gone down a Noam Chomsky American-Imperialism is to blame for everything while ignoring all the bad things other countries did rabbit hole.
It's a known thing in certain far left circles where you point to Americas really fucked up actions and ignore that sometimes the people on the other end also sucked horribly.
It's basically Chomskys bread and butter.
The Putin love letter is weird, but irrelevant to anything to do with the rape.
There was about a 2 day window after Bernie got knocked out that I was okay with everything. But now I'm just pissed at the whole damn system even more.
Two faced media. Two faced defenders. Two faced political party. Bernie never likes to really get his feet wet.
Doesn't help that of the stimulus bill gave us penny's in comparison. I'd call out the dems again for just bowing down to the elites but Bernie barely called them out. Though, since Biden's whole strategy is to just not be around and then some how win anyway, I guess it would make sense for the media to not want to put Bernie on tv.
Also if any of you really think of everything is a Russian plant then this county is finished.
Two faced media. Two faced defenders. Two faced political party. Bernie never likes to really get his feet wet.
Doesn't help that of the stimulus bill gave us penny's in comparison. I'd call out the dems again for just bowing down to the elites but Bernie barely called them out. Though, since Biden's whole strategy is to just not be around and then some how win anyway, I guess it would make sense for the media to not want to put Bernie on tv.
Also if any of you really think of everything is a Russian plant then this county is finished.
Indeed. Tankies are everywhere on the internet, and while I despise their shallow and contradictory ideology (from a socialist standpoint, for the record), that alone wouldn't be enough for me to dismiss any accusations they made against an abuser. In fact, for all I know, their beliefs might have been shaped BY being abused, and in that case, I can't really blame them for having such a singleminded axe to grind against the USA.
Everything that is being dug up about this poor woman is being done so retroactively in order to protect the DNC's Chosen One. And far as I'm concerned, that makes the people DEFENDING Biden in this way more suspect, not the other way around.
She already addressed the Putin shit and said her views have changed over time and that she doesn't support him. She supports the people of Russia.
And again, this is only even in existence at all because of bad actors who went to trash an accuser who had the courage to stand up to Biden on multiple occasions.
Lots of people, including many on this forum (and in this thread), have shown their asses over Reade's accusations and continue to do so.
And again, this is only even in existence at all because of bad actors who went to trash an accuser who had the courage to stand up to Biden on multiple occasions.
Lots of people, including many on this forum (and in this thread), have shown their asses over Reade's accusations and continue to do so.
... yeah it seems plausible it happened
I am not arguing that
In reality he will still get the nomination and go up against something even worse
Lesser evil etc
Why do you believe money was involved from Russians or republicans?
This is some real "the black man i shot in the back had weed in his car" energy.
Just wondering what I'm supposed to do in this situation. It's not been proven in a court of law. I don't dismiss these allegations at all and want some form of justice for this woman or Biden. Just would like the results to be put forth before I cast judgement. But I can't have 4 more years of Trump. What are we supposed to do? Trump has 27 allegations against him? I believe and support women. I am just wondering how some are dealing with this on their own. I just can't have Trump.
The election is 7 months away, and the democratic convention is 3 months away. If only there was something that could be done by then. If he drops out there is still time to nominate someone else. Instead of rationalizing voting for a rapist, we should look for opportunities to make it so that we don't have to choose between two rapists.
You take a step back. Wait until investigative journalists delve deeper into the allegations. You weigh the findings of those reports and then make a decision that aligns with you.
From the locked thread, The Guardian has an article about the questionable media response to the story:
www.theguardian.com
My pull quotes are almost the same ones spam musubi used.
Why has the media ignored sexual assault allegations against Biden? | Arwa Mahdawi
Conservatives who didn’t care about the multiple sexual assault allegations against Trump have seized on the accusations while liberals turn a blind eye
www.theguardian.com
My pull quotes are almost the same ones spam musubi used.
Biden campaign advisor Symone Sanders quietly deleted her past #MeToo tweets that were in support of Christine Blasey Ford.
Joe Biden isn't getting my vote. Ever.
Joe Biden isn't getting my vote. Ever.
As vile as Symone Sanders is for a variety of other reasons, this specifically isn't one of them, most likely. Her twitter history before 2019 is completely gone, and was likely wiped when she went to work for Biden for less sinister reasons than covering up a history with #metoo.
Please do research before spreading blatantly false tweets.
She deleted all her pre-2019 tweets when she came on board the Biden campaign.
The tweet was false. She wiped her entire twitter feed about a year and half back, the tweet above is trying to make it appear as if she purposely went back and deleted me too tweets.
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You once told me that if Biden had an accusation of sexual assault, we should be done with him. I remember.
I guess goalposts move when someone is on your team.
Instead you only pop your head in here when defending Biden/his team, instead of offering any kind of support for someone who is publicly accusing a powerful man of rape and getting threats and harassment daily.
I am not sure what any of this has to do with pointing out that a tweet spreading false information is incorrect? Are we not allowed to point out false information?
You're ignoring my post.
Also, I didn't see you in here defending Reade when she was accused of being a Russian plant or when her the timing of her accusation was questioned.
Or when victims of sexual assault were being harassed.
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It's not false information. We all agree: She deleted the tweets.
Motherfuckers scream for intersectionality, feminism! But once they have climbed the ladder, once they got a foot into the door of the very same sphere of power that has been fucking people like them over for centuries, they turn around and piss down their fellow folks' face. For them the struggle is nothing more than a tool to advance on their egomaniac path...
It is trying to tie together deleting #Meetoo tweets with this accusation to create the impression that the deletion was due to the accusation. Which does not appear to be the case as Symone Sanders deleted everything from before she joined Biden's campaign when she joined said campaign.
There is nothing here to be upset over.
Does anyone definitively know when Sanders deleted her tweets?
Also, someone else noticed that Jill Filipovic has deleted her tweets about Christine Blasey Ford and Kavanaugh.
Also, someone else noticed that Jill Filipovic has deleted her tweets about Christine Blasey Ford and Kavanaugh.
Not sure how to look for that to be honest.
Jill Filipovic also appears to have deleted almost everything before January of this year. Appears to have taken breaks from Twitter so I'd chalk this up to another much of stuff that no one needs to get riled up over.
Sure but that doesn't get into the question of why she deleted them in the first place
Because she likely deleted it as she started a new job where she may have been advised to get rid of her tweets from before that point? She's going to be a public figure for a Presidential campaign and god knows what she posted in the past so might as well get rid of everything.
There's no reason to jump to conclusions here and assume that this was done in response to the allegations when the most likely scenario is that it was done ages ago.
Deliberately changing the context of when and why someone deleted their tweets to try to further a narrative does not help further legitimate allegations against Biden. That sort of thing Can hurt the pursuit of the truth. You are doing nothing positive for the victim
There's plenty of evidence for her not having sketchy motives for deleting her old tweets (which seems to have been done over a year ago), but rest assured Sanders is still a hypocrticial piece of shit off of the bird website too:
I mean I agree with you that she didn't just do it right now when the allegations came up, and it's also easy to tell that she didn't just delete stuff related to Kavanaugh if you search old articles with her tweets embedded.
I do think that "we scrubbed the whole twitter account rather than go through it for tweets that might make me/Biden look bad if they resurfaced" winds up being counterproductive for this reason if she's neither going to stand for what she said or try to stay accountable for it.
I mean sure, on some level, deleting the tweets isn't what matters. I agree. What matters is that she has reversed her old opinions as a matter of partisan political convenience.
This is damning, regardless of why her tweets are gone.
She's doing the same thing many on this forum have also done (assuming she stays on Biden's campaign) --
Displaying moral integrity only when it's not someone on your team and/or is politically convenient.
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Some of you who have been so baffled by the MAGA mindset these four years need only to look at your own posts in this thread to fully grasp why those people are the way they are.
She's going to leave her position right now for sure right...?
Yeah, the sad reality is that many people on both sides just play politics as a team game. Its not about ideology or integrity or policy. Its about winning by any means necessary.
I guess Obama for 8 years and then being united against Trump for another 4 kind of blinded a lot of us to this reality.
Except people with that mindset like Trump, many who will vote for Biden don't care for him that much.
They realise voting for Biden is a lot more than just who sits in the oval office.
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