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Yoshitaka Murayama (Suikoden Creator) tweets about making an announcement soon on his next challenge
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I hate being That Guy, but Konami did get a Castlevania game out. It was a mobile game that stopped getting content five months in and will discontinue in full in September.
You'd figure they'd do Suikoden because unlike Castlevania, it's disgustingly perfect for a gacha game. All of the high quality pngs you can buy to get through the game as your favorite Christmas and Summer themed waifus and husbandos. The Castlevania game died because all of the gacha was exclusively for equipment, and you can't get whales even if you inflate the difficulty as the game did.
I'm gonna be honest, if he plans to Kickstart a spiritual successor, I need to see in-game graphics as part of the announcement. None of this "if you give us enough money we'll start making it in a few months and figure out the graphics then" Bloodstained/Mighty No. 9 bullshit.
I've been burned so goddamn many times by "classic RPG revival!" Kickstarter projects that I just have zero faith in them now.
I've been burned so goddamn many times by "classic RPG revival!" Kickstarter projects that I just have zero faith in them now.
I hope it's not a gacha game. I would enjoy a new Suikoden-like experience. But I'm also concerned about crowd-funded experiences.
Does Konami sound like a company that throws away money on 11 video games, 2 collectable card games, a quarterly fanzine, several publications including manga and encyclopedias, figurines and branded merchandise over a period of 17 years?
Sorry yes, I was ignoring mobile since no one wants to think about that lol.
You missed the dozens of amaaaaaazzzziiiing arrange albums, which are all almost equally awesome.
I don't doubt love/relevance died over the years, but I think it was strong for a while. Just Konami itself seemed to shift?
Doh, I about to go home now from work so I'll probably check later for good news, hopefully...
I still have crush with Kasumi in 2 because of this.
Truly deserve in natural beauty team combo.
Doing 108+ character designs was crazy & still manage to pull amazing designs too by the way.
I still have crush with Kasumi in 2 because of this.
Truly deserve in natural beauty team combo.
Worked for koji igarashi, worked for ron gilbert.
basically works for creators who also know how to manage projects. sounds like murayama is working with iga, so hopefully he will be helping on precisely that front
ron gilbert ended up giving me what I wanted from double fine adventure lol
I love tim schafer as a creator, but he's the only person who ever made me think bobby kotick was right about something
If the game goes 2D like 1 and 2. And is released for Playstation i'll Be ready to pledge despite promising not to pledge again after the mess that was Wonderful 101 (still haven't recieved my game)
Expectations are one thing but Broken Age was a beautiful little adventure game with lots of heart. OST was fire, art was fire, VO, etc...
It absolutely belongs in the "success" stories IMO, even if part II struggled a bit more.
Like when you look at the other kickstarters ...
And the documentary was so good too.
Hopefully they figure out a better visual style than the "basically just a Vita game" art we eventually got in Bloodstained.
Successes are games that I consider did exactly what they were supposed to like:
Thimbleweed Park
Bloodstained
Shadowgate 2014
Wasteland 2
Shovel Knight
Chaos Reborn
Overload
etc etc. Broken Age for me kind of fits in the middle tier, not a failure but not what I wanted (like how has tim schafer not realised you need on hover item descriptions in 2015???), kind of like Broken Sword 5 (though it was better than BS5 at least).
Plus it went through a lot of rocky road to get there, like having to split up the game in the first place because tim didn't manage the budget well.
Documentary was indeed superb
I don't mind Bloodstained, but yeah. Maybe they can get inti involved, they do good pixelart. Although they've never made a game like this before afaik
Didn't Inti Creates develop Bloodstained too? Like they seem to be very good at NES-style visuals but I don't think PS1 or PS2-style is really their bag.
The main games always did fine up till IV at least. V didn't too hotly.
Some real duds with the GBA Card Stories though or the PSP rerelease of I&II, the Gaidens didn't too well either but based on how relatively inexpensive those would have been to make probably not a disaster either.
iirc Bloodstained went through a few different developers, I think the look may have been set in stone before they became lead devs on it.
They couldn't handle the development of the main game, so they only ended up doing the 8-bit spinoff. That ended up doing well so they made a sequel.
If it's a pixel game, they can nail it. If it requires high quality 3D assets, they appear to struggle immensely.
Yeah. Suikoden IV was a torpedo that blew a hole in the series' side, and then Suikoden V had the bad luck to release alongside...was it FFXII? FFXII or KH2, I can't remember which.
So not only did V have the incredibly bad reception to IV dragging it down, but it also released alongside a way higher-profile competitor that ate up its potential salesbase.
Right. They've got the NES side-scroller art style on lockdown. I don't really think I see them pulling off the Suikoden look, though. That feels like a completely different paradigm from what they're used to.
I'm game for anything Murayama does, but I really don't see the appeal in a Bloodstained counterpart to Suikoden. I want Suikoden 6 as much as anyone else, but part of the appeal of Suikoden is the world he created, the aesthetics and the music, not just his writing and the gameplay.
If this is what he wants to do, then I guess I'm board. Still, I'd rather he do something new that won't just remind me about Suikoden and all the stuff that'll be left unresolved and unexplored.
If this is what he wants to do, then I guess I'm board. Still, I'd rather he do something new that won't just remind me about Suikoden and all the stuff that'll be left unresolved and unexplored.
I'm not sure who took over after Inti Creates dropped out, but they apparently had some help from WayForward towards the end. Did you play or at least see the final version? It had a decent graphical upgrade towards the end of development. Some parts were still pretty bad like the underground areas, but a decent chunk of the castle looked pretty good I thought.
Keep in mind we're talking about games from people who left Konami and are stuck going to Kickstarter to get games made, graphics are going to suffer.
Oh, I played it. I got my physical copy and played up until the battle with Zangetsu in the dumb Japanese temple area. I bailed after that because the sheer amount of jankiness was getting to me.
I think Bloodstained showed that it doesn't have to be called Castlevania to be a Castlevania game. So whatever this project might be called and is in fact a spiritual successor, what more is there to want? ^^
I also think it was super cool for the game to use a new rendition of 4's battle theme just one time:
this is a very valid concern. goddamn, I really hope they deliver!
Jank? Wait, controls or graphics? I thought the controls were fine if you used the right weapon.
at this point, I have too. but this has also increased my curiosity. like what might this game be???
always down for more Suikoden like games so I'm definitely expecting that
Graphics, as well as just a bunch of little things. Zangetsu being EXTREMELY broken and not fun to fight didn't help either.
Murayama was the most integral piece of the puzzle for me. I liked Suikoden 4&5 but it was clear to me his writing/directing made the difference between something I enjoyed to my favorite thing ever. Unless the game would turn out wretchedly ugly don't think I'll care thaat much how it ends up looking like.
Worst case it looks like Bloodstained RoTN which yeah it's not pixels but it's fine. Suikoden 5 had good enough graphics at the time, nothing that wow'd me but I enjoyed it.
While we're posting tunes:
Worst case it looks like Bloodstained RoTN which yeah it's not pixels but it's fine. Suikoden 5 had good enough graphics at the time, nothing that wow'd me but I enjoyed it.
While we're posting tunes:
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