Well, according to Sony and the fans, the magical sub 2 Second RAM flush/refill from SSD should be able to make RAM count almost irrelevant! So if you shank another 2GB from XSS Then you can simply constantly lflush and reload the entire game RAM from the 4.8GB/s SSD no problem! :D
Streaming is only reliable for the for the foreseeable future @ 720p. Ppl wont buy a dedicated box for 720p streaming with latency, even @ $99. See Stadia.
If I remember correctly wasn't it that it would work really well for any game that is 4K on the previously assumed 9TF PS5?
If there was no market MS wouldn't be investing so heavily in it, much less see Google and Amazon as main competitors.
The market is there for your phones or laptops you already own. It won't require yet another box. Don't you know how they are handling the hardware situation in Beta already?
Keyword : Beta. And yes I know since I've been on the xcloud testing for a while now.
You don't change key factors like that from Beta, You test that shit during Alpha stage. And Beta has proven that a mid range phone is plenty good for 720p streaming with some latency.
That's pretty much true about MS. As for potential console prices I think PS5 will be cheaper than XSX. They did that mistake at PS3. And it costed them so much. Playstation sells their consoles at a loss. Because they think about 1 Plus and maybe 1 game would equal the cost of console. What Sony really gains from are games, store and PS +. That's why I don't think they would sell it higher than XSX. SIE isn't as rich as Microsoft.
I'd add this to the OP but that would mean I had edited and null and void my entry. :D
This was purely a request from someone in this thread to make it look like a white Gamecube. :D
You coy mofo you...
They have access to resources far beyond other competitors though, that's the point, ie Gamepass. Also Phil is enjoying privilege no other Xbox Boss has experienced, he's a Director, answers to no-one apart from Satya. That means its he, that signs the cheques, of course it's not done blindly, but if there's a case for significant investment, he can ok it.
Of course. I'm not talking about those, because we have no way of verifying whether he was right or wrong. I'm talking about his leaks that directly say X thing will happen, and then X thing does or doesn't happen afterwards. As far as I know, his track record is flawless for those.
We'll see how it plays out. I personally think the strategy makes sense so far. If they reveal a substantially cheaper console with all the same capabilities and next gen games, just at 1080p, I think that's a big winner. In fact, I'm surprised that Sony isn't doing the same thing (as far as we know, anyway).
Well we know it's 12 GB. Are we way off with the bandwidth?
If its 12GB, 192 bit bus is a safe bet with GDDR6 since only 6 chip layout makes any sense.
Does anyone know how much VRAM usage typically increases when you switch a game from 1080p to 4K on PC? I can't imagine it would be *that* much. As far as I know, most of VRAM is taken up by textures, which don't change when you increase your rendering resolution.
8 GB would be the same as Xbox One S... Really?
For 1440p, it's about right I think. But I am vacillating between 10GB @160bit/280GBps and 12Gb @192bit/336GBps...
is there a particular reason the gpu couldn't be clocked at 2.2GHz?
Games will likely be using lower res textures on Lockhart.
If you clock something that high, you have to spend more on cooling and PSU to compensate. I didn't see the need if your aim is just 4TF. 240mm^2 is already small enough for the SoC. Would smaller SoC be better? Not sure at the cost of more expensive cooling/PSU and potentially a noisier system.
Yes, but I see XOX and XSS as having similar in GPU output so I think you should give it similar RAM as XOX. To me, they are both ideal 1080p~1440p/60Hz machines (Forza Horizon 4 on XOX is great example).
You are spectacularly underestimating how value-conscious and price sensitive the average person is. Consumers will see a $299 entry-point to next-gen COD, Battlefield, Fifa, GTA, etc. and to many that will frankly be an unbeatable proposition regardless of power differences and potential bang-for-your-buck. And then in a further 2-3 years time when it's $199, that'll be in impulse-buy range.
I just can't see the RAM being less than what is in the Xbox One X. There needs to be an actual increase in RAM next gen, because with 8 or 10 in Lockhart, I don't see how that wouldn't hold back next gen. Only 2GB more, or at worst no increase, is not something an SSD will make up for.
