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Its christmas Tonky, ju-just let yourself go, its better if you accept the evil within rather than ignoring it. But no, Tonky, sorry to dissapoint you Tonky, but thats not my alt, cant you understand Tonky? O-one year has passed si-since Rami Seb BAN, one year To-tonky.
Ghosts always return to haunt us.
Merry christmas y'all, even fucking Morgoth "i dont give a shit about christmas" Bauglir.
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Heretic

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Oct 25, 2017
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I really hope Everwild isn't a Sea of Thieves type of game. I don't mind multiplayer but I'd very much prefer a traditional single player adventure.
 

Kiekura

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Mar 23, 2018
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The next gen thread skews Sony a bit and they are getting into secret sauce territory believing that Sony has made an exclusive pact with Samsung to put the next gen HBM ram into the console.

There was rumor way way earlier that they got good deal on HBM. People just wanna see those two systems be different so they speculate.

Indeed, there's a heavy bias towards Sony's hardware there. Best to treat most of the discussion as speculation until we hear from the big dogs themselves.

While there are some good, logical posts there, its also has some unrealistic ones in the mix too :P

It is a speculation thread. Because we dont know anything there are lots of stupid posts too. Can't wait till we get both specs confirmed so it will stop.
 

daTRUballin

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Oct 25, 2017
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I would not be surprised at another studio purchase next year.
I'm definitely expecting more studio acquisitions at E3.

Damn, haven't they bought enough studios already? And you people want even more? Lol let them breathe a bit

Idk how many studios Sony has, so maybe 13 studios isn't such a crazy number lol

I really hope Everwild isn't a Sea of Thieves type of game. I don't mind multiplayer but I'd very much prefer a traditional single player adventure.

I've heard some others suggest this, but the game could have optional online or offline co-op rather than be all-out multiplayer like SoT. That would be a great way to appeal to people that aren't into online only stuff. That's one of the problems some people have with SoT.
 

Bradbatross

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Damn, haven't they bought enough studios already? And you people want even more? Lol let them breathe a bit

Idk how many studios Sony has, so maybe 13 studios isn't such a crazy number lol
This is just based on everything they've been saying and all the rumors going around. Seems very likely that they'll be adding more studios soon.
 

Theorry

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Oct 27, 2017
61,202
Interesting quote for The Initiative page. Guess they fall in the line of NT, Double Fine, Obisdian as being "independent"?
But when you look at their career page and click apply you do get send to the MS career page. Wich usually happens with 343, T10 etc.

We operate as an independent studio under the banner and financial backing of Xbox Game Studios and Microsoft.
 

bananas

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Interesting quote for The Initiative page. Guess they fall in the line of NT, Double Fine, Obisdian as being "independent"?
But when you look at their career page and click apply you do get send to the MS career page. Wich usually happens with 343, T10 etc.
I think that's supposed to imply that they have creative independence from Microsoft.
 

Redesigned83

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Happy Holidays Era (for those it applies to)

I would love to know what you guys either got, or gave to someone gaming related that you're excited about.
 

BackToKitchen10

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Damn, haven't they bought enough studios already? And you people want even more? Lol let them breathe a bit

NEVER !!!!

Interesting quote for The Initiative page. Guess they fall in the line of NT, Double Fine, Obisdian as being "independent"?
But when you look at their career page and click apply you do get send to the MS career page. Wich usually happens with 343, T10 etc.

I would imagine its because Turn 10/343/Coalition/Initiative were all built from the ground up as opposed to being acquired

That being said, I would imagine that if you work for any of these studios the paycheck will be from Microsoft since they're handling payroll now.

I remember at E3, Megan Starks of Obsidian talked about the employee discount she gets at the Microsoft store now.
 

Dyashen

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Belgium
Lionhead changed from a mainly SP-ARPG team to a more MP-Action team that was meant to support live services... Cancelling Legends for a new mainline Fable game would've just been a huge waste of resources since then they'd need to hire back ARPG talent.

I'm not fully sure what we know of the original pitch for Fable 4 (without Molyneux although there was a rumour that hinted at a very dark to even Bloodborne-esque game) but yeah Harrison seems to be the leading factor of that massive change for Lionhead no matter the pitch for whatever Lionhead was pitching for a new main Fable game

Oh well, at least Phil Harrison is finding success over at Google.
 
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And speaking of studios I wouldn't mind Microsoft getting just ONE MORE studio that specializes in FPS to stand next to Halo as an alternative and to cement Xbox as the top tier console when it comes to fps. I know people do not want Xbox to only be known for shooters(heck I want Xbox to be known for RPGS) but.... Just a way to further diversify the Xbox.
 

Vordan

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Aug 12, 2018
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Lionhead changed from a mainly SP-ARPG team to a more MP-Action team that was meant to support live services... Cancelling Legends for a new mainline Fable game would've just been a huge waste of resources since then they'd need to hire back ARPG talent.

I'm not fully sure what we know of the original pitch for Fable 4 (without Molyneux although there was a rumour that hinted at a very dark to even Bloodborne-esque game) but yeah Harrison seems to be the leading factor of that massive change for Lionhead no matter the pitch for whatever Lionhead was pitching for a new main Fable game

Oh well, at least Phil Harrison is finding success over at Google.
Eurogamer has an article about it. It was going to be very Victorian England with stuff like Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde references. https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-12-lionhead-the-inside-story
 

Theorry

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Oct 27, 2017
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Booty talked about Lionhead in the Gameinformer podcast i believe and said Lionhead wasnt in a place really to make a big Fable RPG at that time.
 

DukeBlueBall

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Oct 27, 2017
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And speaking of studios I wouldn't mind Microsoft getting just ONE MORE studio that specializes in FPS to stand next to Halo as an alternative and to cement Xbox as the top tier console when it comes to fps. I know people do not want Xbox to only be known for shooters(heck I want Xbox to be known for RPGS) but.... Just a way to further diversify the Xbox.

+1

Also need another third person action / shooter studio besides TC, maybe the Intiative?

Also we need ODST 2. Semi open-world survival stealth "horror" against Brutes + Flood. You know you want it!
 

Dyashen

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Dec 20, 2017
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Regarding some of the posts on Xbox-related YouTube content, I'm currently trying to get things off the ground. The idea of making videos for this community has been going through my head for a while now. No intention of filling the vids with clickbait or ads, just high-quality content purely for the community :)
 

ToadPacShakur

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Oct 25, 2017
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And speaking of studios I wouldn't mind Microsoft getting just ONE MORE studio that specializes in FPS to stand next to Halo as an alternative and to cement Xbox as the top tier console when it comes to fps. I know people do not want Xbox to only be known for shooters(heck I want Xbox to be known for RPGS) but.... Just a way to further diversify the Xbox.


Yesssss.. Actually, even just first person games in general. First person is just so much more immersive to me
 

NimbusCub

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Oct 28, 2017
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I wonder if Lionhead lost a significant amount of talent when developing Fable: The Journey for Kinect. That may have made it difficult to transition back to a traditional RPG project like the previous Fables.
 

Vordan

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Aug 12, 2018
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Booty talked about Lionhead in the Gameinformer podcast i believe and said Lionhead wasnt in a place really to make a big Fable RPG at that time.
I don't doubt that, but that's partly the fault of forcing them to make Legends. But I don't know if they had gotten a chance at Fable 4 that they're would've done a good job. I played through all the Fables recently for the first time so it's not nostalgia when I say Fable 1 was the best. 2 and 3 were far too braindead for my tastes. No interest in a Fable 4 that continues with that trajectory.
 

CrypticSlayer

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think Lockhart will be revealed before E3. I don't think they want to deal with the messaging about it at E3 but would rather get it out of the way before so E3 can be focused entirely on the games message.
 

elenarie

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Jun 10, 2018
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Looking forward to Tell Me Why. Just cried my soul out when finishing Life is Strange 2. :)
 

Somnia

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looking forward to Tell Me Why. Just cried my soul out when finishing Life is Strange 2. :)

Just about to start LiS2 finally. I played chapters 1 and 2 when they came out, but honestly it's been so long I've forgotten a lot of it so I'm going to full restart. I'm glad Tell Me Why is not supposed to take as long between releases.
 

litebrite

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've always thought given Playground's expertise in racing games that they could create a cinematic third person, action adventure game with over the top racing, action set pieces and make a blockbuster game heavily influenced by Fast and the Furious.
 

HgS

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Dec 13, 2019
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I feel like the studio was a little lost after Molyneux left. Like him or loathe him, that studio was his baby, and he was the heart, soul and energy behind it.

The place was clearly out of control. When you go back and read that old Eurogamer interview they did with one of the managers after the studio closed things were way out of control.

People just joking around writing homophobic things on the fridge with magnets. Porn being sent around through corporate email... And the guy basically shoulder shrugged it off as something that shouldn't be happening but whatcha gonna do?

If they'd been churning out 95+ metacritic, GOTY titles selling 7+ million copies maybe they wouldn't have been closed... but it wouldn't have been because they didn't deserve it. The place was a lawsuit waiting to happen and if you were a mature professional, why would you want to work there?

I tend to think Molyneux not being very present and his senior management not getting a grip on their people is the ultimate issue Lionhead had. But, clearly MS should have tried to interfere before. It never should have gotten to that point. People like to pretend Lionhead was some perfectly normal studio MS killed after a bad game when a project wasn't going as intended. But I think there is probably way more to that story. No way someone from MS just wandered into that office and decided killing a prominent studio in a popular territory for them, that would cancel a big game, leave a huge gap in their lineup, strand a franchise, potentially forever and deal with gamer fallout was done lightly.
 

Sydle

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Oct 27, 2017
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The place was clearly out of control. When you go back and read that old Eurogamer interview they did with one of the managers after the studio closed things were way out of control.

People just joking around writing homophobic things on the fridge with magnets. Porn being sent around through corporate email... And the guy basically shoulder shrugged it off as something that shouldn't be happening but whatcha gonna do?

If they'd been churning out 95+ metacritic, GOTY titles selling 7+ million copies maybe they wouldn't have been closed... but it wouldn't have been because they didn't deserve it. The place was a lawsuit waiting to happen and if you were a mature professional, why would you want to work there?

I tend to think Molyneux not being very present and his senior management not getting a grip on their people is the ultimate issue Lionhead had. But, clearly MS should have tried to interfere before. It never should have gotten to that point. People like to pretend Lionhead was some perfectly normal studio MS killed after a bad game when a project wasn't going as intended. But I think there is probably way more to that story. No way someone from MS just wandered into that office and decided killing a prominent studio in a popular territory for them, that would cancel a big game, leave a huge gap in their lineup, strand a franchise, potentially forever and deal with gamer fallout was done lightly.

https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/274665/Why_Lionhead_sank_beneath_the_weight_of_Fable_Legends.php

Essentially, Phil Harrison wanted to pivot all the European studios to service games plus he told Lionhead they could not make Fable 4 or anything resembling it. Even though Harrison brought on some leadership that had experience making service games it just wasn't a good fit with the studio.

I wish they would have been given the resources to make Fable 4.
 

knightmawk

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Dec 12, 2018
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Booty basically already confirmed they're slowing down on acquisitions until the recent freshmen class of studios has released a few games. So I think it'd be a mistake to expect acquisitions at E3 this year. It could happen but I wouldn't say it's guaranteed.

Like they did with DoubleFine, if the right opportunity arises then they won't turn it down, but I think we'll see new releases from existing studios before we start seeing the European and Asian offers flowing. They're probably still looking but not making direct offers just yet. That's my theory.
 
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