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Xbox Game Studios & Bethesda Softworks | OTXVIII | An Obscure And Unpopular Thread Title
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Which is my point. Who gives a f*ck how much a game cost?
Judge the game on its merits. And both of those games are comparable in many ways, only difference is one has slightly higher fidelity graphics.
But because one cost more to make, it can be counted in the list of games Sony released last year, and the other can't, because it cost less?
It was a shocking take from him. IMO of course.
User banned (1 week): Continuous trolling an OT over a series of posts
They barely release AAA games. Whether Flight Sim is AA or AAA isn't even relevant. Some people don't even consider it a game itself and it's definitely not something mass fans will gravitate towards so I don't see how that changes anything I said:
Halo Infinite should've got delayed again, it needed more time
Xbox should've planned 2022 better because the year looks horrific.
Where is the lie and trolling with what I said?
I don't care about Sony or Playstation, otherwise I would be on theirs OT discussing Sony or Playstation. We're are at Xbox OT, so I only care about Xbox games and releases. If someone compared with Playstation, so my bad. This is irrelevant for sure. And I may be misinterpreting you, but I'm just trying to say that is not okay to rely on 2021 games to justify the pacing of releasing when 2022 don't have any games. The correct statement would be "Microsoft barely release games... on 2022", which is, until now, very true. And, based on the news today, we can't say for sure anything about "four first party games" this year.
And this is pretty much incredible frustrating comming from a company who buys a lot of studios, have lots of games in development, etc. They should have planned better, simple as that.
Thank you for bringing a smile to my face on an otherwise shitty day.
Genuinely can't tell if you're trolling me directly now at this stage?
Read back over those first two sentences, and see if you can spot the contradiction, and come back to me.
I mean........ What???? Flight Sim being AAA is irrelevant in a discussion about AAA games? I mean..... What??!!????
And then claim it isn't even really a game?
Dude, you're definitely trolling. You're just making stuff up at this stage to suit your argument.
So now Flight Simulator isn't even a game? What is it then? A book?
the spoiler cracked me up. never changeOthers are dooming, me I still stink Contraband will make this holiday, we are not the same.
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They must be aware that the narrative arround starfield and redfall is now negative, and that the show in the 12th is strong enough to change that narrative, if not announcing the delay before the showcase was very dumb imo. Usually these companies announce a delay after a showing or when there's been a few months of no news.
Oh hell yeah. Was gonna get this for my MacBook but I don't really like gaming on there… happy to wait if it's that close
Lol. I literally laughed out loud at that one. Much needed, thanks. 😃
Sure, I don't think anybody in here is happy about the fact they have no games announced for release this year. But again, I was responding directly to somebody who was comparing them to Sony and Nintendo, hence my example above.
And of course we can't say for sure about the four releases until probably after the showcase, but I would be very confident in at least three of them. I think we'll see:
Forza Motorsport
Pentiment
Grounded
As Dusk Falls
Let's wait and see, and hopefully they'll have a surprise or two lined up as well.
A Simulator.
It's to temper expectations before the showcase for those expecting game blowouts of these games that were scheduled to release this year.
I'm not even sure it will release in 2023 so yeah. Not this year.Contraband will release this Year, in November/December, one of the most ambitious game concept this year, first true next gen game.
But now that you are here, feel free to kindly talk some people down off the ledge.
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Love you Solis! 😘
I'm surprised at the negativity. These games are getting the time they need to be the best they can be. That Microsoft is willing to delay them is really good news. It doesn't have to mean their studio management is troubled.
Now I do have faith that Microsoft has good 2022 announcements up their sleeve for the upcoming showcase. The problem is, if that's true , why the hell don't we know about it yet. You can't let the whole world think your system is a barren wasteland for half a year and then go "psych - here are some awesome 2022 games". Points to a marketing problem to me.
Now I do have faith that Microsoft has good 2022 announcements up their sleeve for the upcoming showcase. The problem is, if that's true , why the hell don't we know about it yet. You can't let the whole world think your system is a barren wasteland for half a year and then go "psych - here are some awesome 2022 games". Points to a marketing problem to me.
What if Forza doesn't even launch this year. I know we're all kind of treating it like it's a foregone conclusion that it will but...
You're still ignoring my two main points, which is:
Halo Infinite should've got delayed again.
Xbox should've planned 2022 better because the year looks horrific.
Some people would consider Microsoft Flight Simulator as a Simulator.
I think this is the key. This sells the wrong message and some people are more susceptible to hype than others. Right now, for me, IMO, Xbox isn't in a good place. Maybe in 2024 or 2025 when all the games are releasing or if they really surprise us in june. I wouldn't run to the streets to buy a console based on their current line-up.
Well then it'll be a really poor year most likely. I still have hope though.
We'll probably be lucky to get more than a 3 minute trailer at MS's showcase tbh. If the game is a mess I doubt theyll do a deep dive demo considering what happened with Halo.
That thought has begun to creep into the very edges of my mind. It's not a very welcome thought, to say the least.
As some others have said, hopefully there will be some clarity in terms of the Xbox landscape immediately following the showcase. I think I'll be able to keep my shit together until then. 😊
So is Gran Turismo not a game?
Heck what about Immersive Simulation games.
It's just a clearly absurd opinion. But that is okay, we won't hold it against you if you want to take it back. :)
Yup. I get where they're coming from as well --- large open world games like Starfield and Redfall are desired among players. But now that Xbox has delayed them, we can't ignore or bash smaller titles that Xbox has and will put out (which are often better games!).
One, a completely subjective point that ignores the context around the service elements and the fact that if they delayed it a year, would have still launched it as they did in December, and would be a year behind in terms of listening to community feedback and improving. But sure, they could have, but that's all being said with the benefit of hindsight after Redfall and Starfield get delayed.
Point number two, again, ignoring the context of... Game development is hard. You could have 12 games scheduled to release in a year, with the best of planning, and still have to delay them all in order to focus on polish and ensuring the best possible product gets released to consumers.
Or should they have just rushed them out the door and risked another Cyberpunk situation?
And finally, I wasn't ignoring your main points, as I was responding directly to your, and I quote, Xbox barely releases games comment.
Which, again, was factually incorrect.
I don't think anyone should be treating anything as a forgone conclusion at this point. We're exactly a month away from finding out what the lineup and roadmap is going to be, so not long to wait to know for sure.
Please explain how do you plan better? Game development at this scale is difficult yet alone when you're starting from scratch with a new IP and there are so many moving parts that complicate everything not to mention the impact the pandemic has had.
You can't complain on one hand Halo Infinite should've been delayed further and then complain when Redfall and Starfield are delayed to complete and polish everything and shore up as many bugs and fixes.
Deathloop is a series of immersive trailers. Proof me wrong /s
I'm just assuming that by 2024 all their heavily rumored or confirmed games will be already be released, like: Redfall, Contraband, Starfield, Avowed maybe and Hellblade 2 maybe. We can't say much for anything else IMO.
This was obviously a last minute change since everyone at Xbox was still touting the November date very recently. There is no way they have anything significant ready to fill 2 massive gaps in their lineup. The best we can hope for is Forza 8 and maybe them getting some emergency funds for some Game Pass Day 1s.
I don't really care about who wins the Keighley award, but at least it will make Starfield better in the end. *inhale more copium* ahh, that's the good stuff
But I don't see what they could have up their sleeve for this year. Wolfenstein 3 is a pipe dream. Contraband as well (I think Contraband will be summer next year at best). The best case scenario this year is Sawyer's game, Forza, and As Dusk Falls. Maybe some kind of remastering effort like has been rumored. I don't think Halo BR will be ready either.
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