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Would you consider moving to Canada if situation does not improve in the U.S.?
- Thread starter Shadownet
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Today's ruling creates a game changer in terms of those who seek asylum.
www.bbc.com
Canada court rules US 'not safe' for asylum seekers
The US violates the human rights of asylum seekers by imprisoning them, a Canadian judge rules.
www.bbc.com
My place of employment has a location in Ontario but I've only been there for seven months, so I don't think asking them to move me would be high on their list of priorities.
My husband has a degree and IT background from a major insurance company so he's at least more flexible and in-demand.
IDK. We'll see what happens. I hope we don't have to get to that point but if Trump is re-elected, we may have to.
My husband has a degree and IT background from a major insurance company so he's at least more flexible and in-demand.
IDK. We'll see what happens. I hope we don't have to get to that point but if Trump is re-elected, we may have to.
If things somehow contiue on the same decent into hell we're currently experiencing, yes, I would strongly consider moving to Canada or anywhere that's not this country. That is if we're not quarantined from the rest of the planet by then.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if you're not willing to put in the effort and time to make your own country a better place, and you're not in any kind of actual imminent danger, as a Canadian I don't think you should really even be considered for immigration or asylum. There are so many people in so many countries who have it so much worse and no way to actually improve their situations. Those are the people we need to welcome in first. Every US application for immigration should go to the very bottom of the pile imo. If you're willing to let your own country completely slide into fascism, racism and tyranny, what would you be willing to do for a country you don't even consider your home?
Most people I know feel the same. It's not that we don't "want" you here, it's that we want you to fix your mess down there first. It's like you getting drunk every night, trashing your house, and shitting all over your front lawn and then going up to your next door neighbor and going "My place sucks, can I crash with you?".
Most people I know feel the same. It's not that we don't "want" you here, it's that we want you to fix your mess down there first. It's like you getting drunk every night, trashing your house, and shitting all over your front lawn and then going up to your next door neighbor and going "My place sucks, can I crash with you?".
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Nope, I think the Black population is like super low. I'd rather move to Atlanta and hold the fort down.
Getting into Canada is harder then you might think....and honestly, I'm very vocal about keeping the boarders closed - please don't come here.
Dude I've been fighting this fight my entire life and it's just getting worse. Being an activist in America is soul crushing. I see a therapist, because otherwise my depression would just completely overtake me.
It's definitely more likely I stay (I am hopeful things will start normalizing at least under Biden) but at some point I have to think about my own sanity and happiness.
Nah, I'm feeling scrappy. I intend to fight back. Also I don't want to run away and infect others, literally or figuratively, with the American insanity. It's our fixer-upper to deal with.
Very few people have the actual ability to make any sort of meaningful change in their state/country.
Agreed.
No offence Americans but sort your own shit out. And honestly? Your culture already seeps into Canada too much and it's making things worse here. We don't need more "American" anything, even though I'm sure most of you here are lovely people.
You've got Toronto and... Montreal I guess?
Toronto's a pretty dope city, but yeah we're not the darkest country going outside of those two cities.
I personally felt this. I moved to Canada in late September 2016 when everyone thought Hillary was on her way to an easy victory. Then Trump won. It was fun to joke about how I got out just in time, but really a part of me wanted to be back there fighting for what I believe in. Fortunately, it's been easy to continue to at least vote while abroad, but it's not easy watching your home country slide into chaos from afar. It's still you're home and you do not want it to go to shit.
I am now planning to move back to the US, though I have loved my time in Canada and wouldn't trade it for anything now. I know I will always have Canada as an option if things really start to look even worse in the US, but it's not there yet.
I agree it's hard, but people can do it. People have done it. The wrong people are doing it as we speak. We want people here who feel that it is possible to effect positive change in a society, not people who have given up on it.
The only other time that option has been entertained for me was when Bush was going to invade Iraq. My mother was going to send me to Canada if they instated a draft. It's definitely not something I just have in my back pokcet for funsies.
Do they need primary care docs? I talked to my wife about this a couple days ago. How if he wins I want to seriously look into it.
I don't mean to belittle the very real macro problems and injustice present in the United States.
But my day to day living is pretty good. At the local level, my life hasn't changed that much regardless of who is in power. I'm not leaving because my life elsewhere would probably be worse.
But my day to day living is pretty good. At the local level, my life hasn't changed that much regardless of who is in power. I'm not leaving because my life elsewhere would probably be worse.
Some people literally can't and won't likely ever have the ability to do it though. Yeah you want to try and effect change but you also have to be honest about how the mechanisms of power work in the US and other countries.
Honestly? Yes.
The only thing though is I'm disabled and well... it's a bit of a mess... I do have friends in Canada, which might make things a little easier to move up there (I do have family too, but I absolutely don't know them on a personal level and it's more on my mom's extended side), but I know moving or seeking asylum with disabilities... Sigh.
The only thing though is I'm disabled and well... it's a bit of a mess... I do have friends in Canada, which might make things a little easier to move up there (I do have family too, but I absolutely don't know them on a personal level and it's more on my mom's extended side), but I know moving or seeking asylum with disabilities... Sigh.
I don't really agree with this just based on the fact that nobody chooses where they're born and I strongly believe that people have every right to travel around and find a place that they choose to call home. I've lived in multiple states across America, but nowhere quite felt as "home" as when I lived on the other side of the planet. I don't think anyone should be "forced" to stay somewhere just because they "lost" the roll of the dice.
You're not wrong but you have to go in knowing it's not going to be "winnable" in the way that you want it to be. The fight is going to outlive you. But what you do today does contribute to the rolling snowball over time.
Nihilism is a trap and its part of the power structure to make you think its unwinnable. Everything in the world was created by people who were no smarter than you are now and probably not much older either. We're being shown very hard with Trump and Boomers that age doesn't equal wisdom anyway.
Already planning to move there if not by the end of next year then the following year.
But I'm not expecting Canada to be this magical place either white supremacists are on the rise and European white supremacists groups already have chapters in Canada like the sons of odin
But I'm not expecting Canada to be this magical place either white supremacists are on the rise and European white supremacists groups already have chapters in Canada like the sons of odin
It is also really silly because both America and Canada were founded by people who left "home", and frequently settled by them as well in recent decades. Immigration is a cornerstone of both our economies, culture and history.
