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Wipeout vs F-Zero: Which series do you prefer?
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Read about the creator of AG Racing here, https://wipeout.fandom.com/wiki/Pierre_Belmondo he went on to create the AG STystems team and then become Commisioner of the series.
Wipeout for me, love the whole package and feel it's quite a bit different than the SNES F-Zero, never liked the feel of the track spinning round and N64 version is not really up to Wipeout standards.
To be fair I don't see them as a good comparison and respect F-Zero for what it did back in the 16bit era.
To be fair I don't see them as a good comparison and respect F-Zero for what it did back in the 16bit era.
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Did you play the earlier or later Wipeout games? With the PSP games there was a big shift in the games, you could even call them Classic and Modern Wipeout. Classic Wipeout was definitely based on F-Zero even with its differences, modern Wipeout is pretty different.
I got into Wipeout too late, and even then I couldn't get used to the mobility. On the other side, I've known F-Zero since the SNES and I loved every minute I spent running all circuits in GX.
I'm giving Wipeout another try though, as I recently bought the Omega Collection.
I'm giving Wipeout another try though, as I recently bought the Omega Collection.
Personally prefer Wipeout games, though especially starting with Wipeout Pure. I do like the classics, but it felt like the series honed in after the PSP games.
Alright. We fightin'
Alright. We fightin'
The PS2 game, Fusion was the most like F-Zero and it was by far the worst. I don't think the PS1 games were like F-Zero though. Also I wouldn't recommend people go back to the original. However I think that 2097 and Wip3out are still fun games now.
Pure was an amazing launch game, Pulse was ok but then WipEout HD was for me the amazing high point. Everything after that has been pretty much at that level, especially once 2048 got a nerw lease of life in the Omega Collection.
Then you have the VR mode...
Pure was an amazing launch game, Pulse was ok but then WipEout HD was for me the amazing high point. Everything after that has been pretty much at that level, especially once 2048 got a nerw lease of life in the Omega Collection.
Then you have the VR mode...
That's the exact reason I hate F Zero. It just feels like it's bolted to the track. How is that anti gravity? Wipeout ships float, bob and pitch through turns seamlessly and it feels amazing. It feels like full 3D world movement whereas F zero feels like the NES game that it still is underneath.
with the advancements in gaming tech, you'd think this genre would be bigger today than it actually is.
Wipeout and Redout feel more like races to me. I love the characters and the Tracks of F-Zero but the rubber banding and just overall cheating takes me back to the days before Gran Tourismo when I would not give any type of racer the time of day.
That's because those games are incredible. New stuff doesn't have to come out to justify the already created ones. ;)
They're pretty different honestly. And I prefer F-Zero, where insane speed is your biggest enemy. Generally not a big fan of weapons in racing games.
Wipeout HD/Fury is pretty awesome though.
Wipeout HD/Fury is pretty awesome though.
Spoken like someone who has never played Wipeout. They're both pretty different.
I love how the lore in WipeOut wouldn't look out of place if it happened in Formula One.
The "rulings that affect the races" part reminds me of one of my favourite bits of WipeOut lore; an in-game bug was explained as a team gaining an unfair advantage in the manual, leading to that team getting stripped of its championship win from the previous game. Reminds me of McLaren getting DQ'ed from the F1 constructors' championship after Spygate.
They're not even the same so even the comparison was flawed from the start. I enjoy both but I was always more addicted to WipEout.
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2048 being finally made justice with the Omega Collection is one of the best things to happen this gen. I've always digged the more darker aesthetics of it compared to the colorfulness of HD
Wipeout is the holy trinity for me: gameplay, style, sound. It has it all in spades. I credit that game in part for aesthetic interests I hold decades later.
I can totally see how I could maybe feel the same way about F-Zero if I grew up with Nintendo consoles, so I don't begrudge F-Zero fans their fandom at all. But for me, there's simply no substitute.
I can totally see how I could maybe feel the same way about F-Zero if I grew up with Nintendo consoles, so I don't begrudge F-Zero fans their fandom at all. But for me, there's simply no substitute.
F-Zero, particularly GX, makes my adrenaline pump way more and thus I like it better. It requires so much focus and solid reflexes on higher difficulties. Basically ruined other racers for me.
Wipeout is fun but so different... in some ways it's more similar to kart racers. Honestly don't think it and F-Zero are that comparable.
Wipeout is fun but so different... in some ways it's more similar to kart racers. Honestly don't think it and F-Zero are that comparable.
F-Zero GX is the best futuristic racer. Monkey Ball physics, tight as hell, great music and characters, and serious speed. It needs a rerelease with online or something.
Wipeout is fine, but it's always felt sort of empty to me. Slower and floatier, and I don't care for the weapons.
Wipeout is fine, but it's always felt sort of empty to me. Slower and floatier, and I don't care for the weapons.
Ok then maybe i should reword my comment. Fzero has a more interesting lore with a cast of interesting characters.
F--Zero fan: I prefer my Anti-Gravity racer to control like every other non-anti-gravity racer.
Never could get into Wipeout as much as F-Zero because of the driving floating physics but it's got an extremely cool aesthetic.
It's F-Zero. Wipeout is great an all, and I really do like it, but it can't compare.
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I prefer Wipeout because the ships have a better feeling of weight to them. You really have to pick a line, time your air brake just right, and know where you need be when come out of corners. F-zero is super fast and a ton of fun, but the ships just kind of zip around. It's more focused on quick reactions. While Wipeout is more about knowing how your ship handles.
But to be fair GX is the only F-Zero game I spent much time on.
But to be fair GX is the only F-Zero game I spent much time on.
For me nothing comes close to the relentless sense of speed of F-Zero GX. And then there's the amazing soundtrack, its perfect controls and track design... It's unmatched IMO.
mistake. big mistake
Fucking come at me then.
Motherfuckers.
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You're probably joking but that game had some great ideas. The damage system being a lot more complex that a simple energy bar made it feel like a Sim in a weird way lol.
F-Zero. The speed was the star of the show. Never like the idea of weapons in blazing fast racers like this, It contravenes the premise.