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Windows Central -- "Fable is not an MMO and Halo Infinite's multiplayer is not being delayed. Take a deep breath and unwind."
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Imagine watching yesterday's showcase and this is your take.
Btw, I don't understand the logic of treating those who believed as idiots, it's not as if these rumors had emerged from 4chan lol
Both came from people with a minimum of credibility and we are in the dark about these games, so it makes sense to believe in the possibility that it is true.
Both came from people with a minimum of credibility and we are in the dark about these games, so it makes sense to believe in the possibility that it is true.
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It was an offhand sentence that he said came from a single source. It was then extrapolated a million times over by Twitter console warriors.
When even a mod feeds into the "concern" and what "insiders" say, it's no surprise the rest of the forum follows.
It's a catch-22 situation. If you don't respond, you hope the story flames out. If you do respond, you're just giving the story and "insider" more attention so most of the time they shut up and keep on going with their plans.
Imagine reading my post and this is your response to my post.
What did Microsoft not communicate properly about Halo Infinite? There was no indication that the multiplayer would be delayed, and they cleared the rumor within 3-4 hours. And teaser trailers are totally normal in gaming, no developer is expected to reveal all the details when they first announce the title.
Fanboys just really want the missteps of the Xbox One launch again, and so they are desperately trying to invent issues.
Yes, Brad Sams is a journalist, and in that case, 343i themselves stepped in and said "wait, that's not true."
When it's some anonymous Twitter person or forum dweller, nah. It's not worth feeding them attention. Discrediting them publicly more often than not would likely just made them spew more FUD.
People sharing baseless rumours and others feeding on them to spread discord is annoying, but more than anything I think the blame lies on the MS and Dev side for keeping so many basic aspects of the revealed games a secret. I get that things can change, but there's some very basic things they could clarify that would at least focus the conversation and set expectations.
Because people want answers as to what this game even is, because its a system seller 4 months out from launch. Of course people are going to jump at every rumor they get because MS and 343 entirely failed to give us context or information about what we should expect from this game.
probably just means it will have co-op and get updates post launch. basically, its a modern video game.
Huh? The only reason we even talk about this stuff is because some rumors flamed up. I don't see what MS did wrong here tbh.
I am not even into Halo and I know thats an Open World FPS Halo game.
They aren't reporting rumors. They are relating basically MS words etc.
They said on the stream they'd be showing MP in the next couple of months.
I think it could be really cool if you could go online with Fable and turn whatever main city exists into a a Destiny style hub where you can see and interact with others. It's been a long time since I've played Fable 2 but I remember having a lot of fun with the co-op, and that would be a nice expansion to what they did back then.
Edit: Actually, thinking about it, kind of like the original Guild Wars. When you leave the city you are brought back to your own solo experience unless grouped up with others. That would be really cool!
Edit: Actually, thinking about it, kind of like the original Guild Wars. When you leave the city you are brought back to your own solo experience unless grouped up with others. That would be really cool!
this started because a random twitter user said X, then another random era poster said hey they are legit(who know) and then people ran with it because they like drama.
Yes, replace those goofy orbs with cars and you literally have what Forza Horizon 4 does for their shared world. It makes too much sense they'd just do the same in Fable as well since it's both something the older games had, and also something Playground is super experienced in.
That was my expectation. It's made by the same people who do Forza Horizon. A game that can be played 100% solo and offline, but has cool online co-op or shared world features that you do not have to use. They can use the online part to keep people coming back long after they've finished the solo part of the game with special events/festivals/etc.
Thinking they were going to do a MMO when none of their hiring or background has indicated otherwise was just weird.
Don't tell me how to live my life!!!!
*holds breath until passes out*
In all seriousness a live service heroes guild and an Albion that is more tailored to the choices the individual player makes would be a versus solid spiritual reboot. OG Fables Heroes Guild always screamed multiplayer potential and player choice was a key tenant, albeit often over promised, component of the series.
If you threw in DLC or expansions that added new areas and stories to Albion along with new quests for players to do with their friends that would be "MMO-lite" and I can't see how it would offend anyone's sensibilities.
*holds breath until passes out*
In all seriousness a live service heroes guild and an Albion that is more tailored to the choices the individual player makes would be a versus solid spiritual reboot. OG Fables Heroes Guild always screamed multiplayer potential and player choice was a key tenant, albeit often over promised, component of the series.
If you threw in DLC or expansions that added new areas and stories to Albion along with new quests for players to do with their friends that would be "MMO-lite" and I can't see how it would offend anyone's sensibilities.
If Fable has traditional single player and extra Destiny like shared world multiplayer, I'm 100% down. Sad that its probably 3+ years away
And that Infinite rumor was so batshit crazy that I could see it somehow being true (because 2020 lol) but I'm happy it probably isn't. Looking forward to Infinite a lot.
And that Infinite rumor was so batshit crazy that I could see it somehow being true (because 2020 lol) but I'm happy it probably isn't. Looking forward to Infinite a lot.
It sure looked like either Open World or big fucking spaces. Either way ... how is people spreading every rumor like crazy somehow MSs fault in messaging? I don't get it.
Oh it was originally eastman? Why would anyone source him... sorry nevermind
People just want to be pissed off for some reason. Yesterdays reactions were pretty fucking weird here...
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They posted a major Halo Waypoint update and they provided a press kit as well. They also went on social media to deny the rumors. What else can you expect? We're in the middle of a pandemic, and we've seen more of this launch title than any other on any system.
Yeah they did in the way point article " This demo shows off just a small section of the open and expansive world we've crafted to deliver an epic Master Chief experience " Source: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/campaign-evolved
When youre releasing a major system seller, the biggest game in your franchise, in the next 4 months, and you can't even tell us the basic set up of the game (is it open world, semi open world, or traditional)-and no tease of the biggest hook of the series (multiplayer) people are going to look for sources of information for clarity. Its really not hard to understand why people would cling to any piece of info they get with a major title releasing so soon.
The info dump added so much to the confusion. Like how is it helpful to hear halo is now a 10 year plan with evolving content with no firm decription of what that even means?
I've heard it has some MMO elements, not that it's WoW.
I LOVE the old Fable games, and I'm not worried at all.
I LOVE the old Fable games, and I'm not worried at all.
You can read a whole helluva lot into these quotes. (For the record, I've never played Fable and I'm not a Halo fan, so I don't really have a dog in this fight)
This essentially confirms the game as an Online RPG, they just take issue with the MMO branding.
I also feel like every MMORPG in history has been sold as "one that you can play in single-player" when certain peopled scoffed. The quote in question reminds me a lot of EA's pushing of Anthem, if memory serves.
They key phrase here is "intended to ship together," which leaves lots of wiggle room for "We want to ensure multiplayer lives up to our high expectations but didn't want to deny players a wonderful single player campaign," or whatever PR speak they choose if they do in fact stagger the releases.
This essentially confirms the game as an Online RPG, they just take issue with the MMO branding.
I also feel like every MMORPG in history has been sold as "one that you can play in single-player" when certain peopled scoffed. The quote in question reminds me a lot of EA's pushing of Anthem, if memory serves.
They key phrase here is "intended to ship together," which leaves lots of wiggle room for "We want to ensure multiplayer lives up to our high expectations but didn't want to deny players a wonderful single player campaign," or whatever PR speak they choose if they do in fact stagger the releases.
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It sure would be cool if Gamers didn't take every rumor as gospel from the first leak.
maybe, I'm crazy then... but I just don't believe any of it. Fable returning as an MMO GaaS makes complete sense. And trying to position Halo multiplayer as its own thing GaaS make sense too. Just looking at where MS seems to be heading.
In this context, the two things are (purportedly) made up, basically whole-cloth. That's not the same thing as miscommunication or unclear messaging.
Co op is always in fable and could be improved... Increases online is not bad at all. Even destiny style raids that you can do with friends would be fine provided there is a good 10+ hour campaign that you can play by yourself that is a story in the mould of the previous fable games
Where are they heading?
They want people to subscribe to Game Pass. To do that, they need to bring in a variety of games.
Purely MMO/Multiplayer focused RPGs won't bring in people. Purely multiplayer focused games won't bring in people.
Matt if you could make it your full time job to set records straight here that would be grand.
I mean Jez calls Xbox stuff all the time. He's one of the few I trust.
Lol, seriously? Is it now company's faults when people make up random rumors, and everyone jumps onto them for some drama? This is getting ridiculous.
Could you expand on what "MMO elements" entails here?
A rather vague statement.