The Fox ban ended a few years ago. Plus the MCU encompasses most of Marvel at this point.
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Will Marvel vs Capcom continue next gen?
- Thread starter Bronx-Man
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I'm hoping that it does.
Both companies need to learn from their mistakes and make MVC4 properly - 3v3 with assists, plenty of fan service, large roster and stages, good controls and...just being an overall frantic and fun fighting game!
Both companies need to learn from their mistakes and make MVC4 properly - 3v3 with assists, plenty of fan service, large roster and stages, good controls and...just being an overall frantic and fun fighting game!
They dictated...
- The art style
- The Marvel side of the roster (especially with the X-Men/F4 ban)
- The themes for the Marvel characters
Marvel Games at the time of Infinite's development =/= Marvel Games of today. I think there'll be another one. 3v3 with assists and I'm there day one.
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Also there are plenty of other 90's arcade games they could have used for this Captain Marvel shot.
Marvel still dictate the characters, if they don't want Cyclops for example, we won't get him. And because Marvel decide their side, Capcom may not use certain characters of theirs who are too similar.
This. There are certainly non-MCU picks (MUA3 notably had Crystal and Elsa Bloodstone) but at this point the MCU covers a huge chunk of Marvel and is only increasing further.
When people shit on Infinite being MCU-centric what they're really mad at is it doing so at the X-Men's expense. And no, you don't have to make a quarter of the roster mutants to fix that.
This. There are certainly non-MCU picks (MUA3 notably had Crystal and Elsa Bloodstone) but at this point the MCU covers a huge chunk of Marvel and is only increasing further.
When people shit on Infinite being MCU-centric what they're really mad at is it doing so at the X-Men's expense. And no, you don't have to make a quarter of the roster mutants to fix that.
Cutting out the slew of Mutant characters should have been an excuse to deep dive into Marvel lore.
Or at least put Kamala Khan in the game like jfc
Nova was probably the deepest dive we got in MvC:I. I don't think Marvel were particularly interested in deep dives of their backlog of characters.
I hate this scene. She is remembering to 1989, SFII didn't exist then and this is Champion Edition which didn't exist until even later. Plus it is wide-screen which no arcade cab was, especially SFII ones.
Also there are plenty of other 90's arcade games they could have used for this Captain Marvel shot.
Estaka Estaka. Never been a huge fan, but it had some of the best commentary in all of fighting games.
I think it will. Pure gut feeling of course with no real evidence to back it up but I think we haven't seen the last of MVC.
I do however think it's a much preferable idea if Capcom did Capcom All Stars. It would solve so many issues this franchise has had.
I do however think it's a much preferable idea if Capcom did Capcom All Stars. It would solve so many issues this franchise has had.
A MVC with GGXrd / FighterZ visual style would be fucking crazy, damn. I know there's next to zero chance of it happening, but man...
Yeah I think it's one of those Arcade 1Up cabs. Still that increases the chance that the intent was there imo.
Hope not, screw Marvel, Capcom has enough characters to stand on their own and then some. Bring on "Capcom VS" "Capcom Slugfest" or whatever, Fighter Jam if you must.
Capcom would have the creative freedom to do what they want. No infinity stone or whatever MCU is shooting for next.
Capcom would have the creative freedom to do what they want. No infinity stone or whatever MCU is shooting for next.
wow i am actually surprised that ive not seen this, though to me it implies curleh mustache umvc3 might come back as an attempt to revitalize
Considering how good tvc was I think itd be nice if the vs series went into some other license vs capcom for all the new movesets it could result in.
I'd love more mvc. Dont get me wrong. But I'd honestly be pretty excited for capcom. To either do a capcom vs capcom (old classic era vs modern era ) title or to do a vs game with some new license more.
Especially given how much I'd love see asw get marvel so that we didnt have to use 20 year old visions of what spiderman and other should play like. Too much damned legacy movesets that need dumped for something else in mvc these days. Mvci felt so damned old at launch with that much retreated ground. It had a shitload of much bigger issues but this was honestly something you noticed quick...youd already played most of their shit to death already and wished there was more changed.
Let asw do an entirely new marvel game. New movesets and mechanics and all that. Let capcom either do a new license for vs or a capcom (old era) vs CAPCOM(new era) title instead.
I'd love more mvc. Dont get me wrong. But I'd honestly be pretty excited for capcom. To either do a capcom vs capcom (old classic era vs modern era ) title or to do a vs game with some new license more.
Especially given how much I'd love see asw get marvel so that we didnt have to use 20 year old visions of what spiderman and other should play like. Too much damned legacy movesets that need dumped for something else in mvc these days. Mvci felt so damned old at launch with that much retreated ground. It had a shitload of much bigger issues but this was honestly something you noticed quick...youd already played most of their shit to death already and wished there was more changed.
Let asw do an entirely new marvel game. New movesets and mechanics and all that. Let capcom either do a new license for vs or a capcom (old era) vs CAPCOM(new era) title instead.
And the MCU is gonna include the X-Men & F4 soon, with the F4 being as soon as Phase 5. Hell, we already have rumors of Doctor Doom being the villain of Black Panther 2.
Ultimately, I still feel like Marvel Entertainment still aren't that interested in deep-dives. But funny enough, Marvel Studios is doing most of the deep-diving themselves (see Eternals). And since Koei Tecmo had the freedom to choose for MUA3, perhaps Capcom may be afforded the same opportunity if they try again for a hypothetical MvC4.
On paper, Capcom going it alone with their characters & no corporate meddling would be a slam dunk idea. The problem is that, as I've said many times, it'd be a hard sell for people besides us. Street Fighter is a strong brand. Resident Evil is a strong brand. Monster Hunter is a strong brand. Mega Man is a strong brand. Devil May Cry is a strong brand. Capcom is not a strong brand, not in the way that Nintendo or even Sony are. Capcom definitely has the backlog of characters, but many of them have become niche. In a way, they kinda need a strong partner to team up with, be it Marvel or someone else. Otherwise, it'll probably only sell around 1.4 million tops. It'll definitely get us excited, but not the average joe. If Capcom goes this route, my suggestions would be to either...
- Name the game "Street Fighter vs. Capcom" or something along those lines.
- Make Capcom All-Stars a budget release similar to Killer Instinct & keep adding content to it as time goes on.
You forget the biggest detriment of them all. Licensing costs and revenue sharing. So Capcom makes less per unit sold compared to other games. (Marvel isn't doing this shit for free).
That's why I just want a Capcom Fighting World type game.
With Hideaki Itsuno on the helm.
I don't know who at Marvel/Capcom went to bat to keep Nova in Infinite but bless their soul
I can see it both ways, maybe it's just a curleh hint.. but the true answer to the question posed, the only thing that can bring Marvel back to the scene is a new Marvel.
They can reuse assets and just add new characters
Yeah Neoxon that's how i always saw if they did a capcom all-stars it just wouldn't be strong , that's why i always say this should be the last thing Capcom does pretty much if they're on the verge of not existing is when they pull it out and even then the expectations are going to be so high. The latter would be the way to go but people wouldn't like it.
I'd rather see CvS 3 or a Capcom Fighting All Stars. I think they should let MvC just rest for a while.
Everyone is saying Capcom Vs. Capcom game. (would be possible for the next vs game by capcom)
I here saying an All Marvel Fighting game done by another studio like ArcSys if not by capcom. It will be a good refresh after MVCI blew it.
It can have a similar premise with secret wars or battleworld and be the excuse for heroes fighting against each other as an injustice would.
I here saying an All Marvel Fighting game done by another studio like ArcSys if not by capcom. It will be a good refresh after MVCI blew it.
It can have a similar premise with secret wars or battleworld and be the excuse for heroes fighting against each other as an injustice would.
Mockery over gaffes and criticisms plagued Infinite's pre-release hype campaign, there's no way Capcom didn't take notice of that. When long-time fans are piling on poor feedback, then something was poorly executed, for sure. It's quite possible Capcom knew very well was was wrong, but their hands were tied because Marvel.
On top of that, FighterZ completely stealing Infinite's hype was a thing that happened - Dragon Ball games are dime a dozen, but FighterZ being hyped like crazy was for a reason (3v3 gameplay, absolutely slick presentation, etc). Sure, Capcom probably were never expecting ArkSys and Bamco to completely steal their thunder around the same time, but considering Marvel is such a massive property these days, it's hard to ignore the explanation that FighterZ simply looked like a better-quality game on all counts.
