I believe the dish is often referred to as "buffalo wings." Does that deception offend you on a personal level?
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Why do people hate vegans?
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I have no problem with vegans, but I will say in comparison to vegetarians I've encountered a much higher rate of them that are rude, standoffish, etc. It seems to be the ones that appear to be malnourished in comparison to the ones that look healthy.
I haven't really encountered many of either that are overly/outwardly rude about people's food choices, although I'm sure they exist. In general there seem to be more on the other side(i.e. meat eaters) that are rude about that whole thing
I haven't really encountered many of either that are overly/outwardly rude about people's food choices, although I'm sure they exist. In general there seem to be more on the other side(i.e. meat eaters) that are rude about that whole thing
You may find yourself equally offended when you learn about the lack of canine meat in the average hot dog.
This is not unusual- they're clearly a minority.
All it takes is a few though.
Because they're afraid of the fact that vegans are right lmao. People always talk about the annoying preachy vegan, but what about the preachy meat eaters that appear in troves whenever a vegan does?
"I'm vegan-"
"BACON BACON MMMM"
"Why do vegans act like they're so morally superior?" Because they are, buddy. I'm pretty sure the person not causing animals to be slaughtered is objectively on the higher moral ground. Of course then the usual arguments whatabout into "well they're wearing clothes probably made by suffering children" etc etc and it's just embarrassing.
And I say all this as a meat eater. The vegans got to me two years ago and started making me question where I stand morally. In the end, I accepted that I am a hedonistic pig and that I do not put the atrocious meat industry above my personal enjoyment of Whoppers and buffalo wings. I'm part of the problem, but I get one life so y'know, YOLO and all.
"I'm vegan-"
"BACON BACON MMMM"
"Why do vegans act like they're so morally superior?" Because they are, buddy. I'm pretty sure the person not causing animals to be slaughtered is objectively on the higher moral ground. Of course then the usual arguments whatabout into "well they're wearing clothes probably made by suffering children" etc etc and it's just embarrassing.
And I say all this as a meat eater. The vegans got to me two years ago and started making me question where I stand morally. In the end, I accepted that I am a hedonistic pig and that I do not put the atrocious meat industry above my personal enjoyment of Whoppers and buffalo wings. I'm part of the problem, but I get one life so y'know, YOLO and all.
I don't hate vegans or vegetarians for that matter. Though like any 'fan base' of anything a vocal minority can be annoying.
That said one time at work I was in the hospitals cafeteria getting a sandwich with chicken and cheese on it. And the director of risk management who is a vegetarian, starts talking to me and is like "you should go vegetarian, you'll be much healtier."
I found this slightly ironic because she was all of 5'2" and probably weighed 250-275 lbs.
That said one time at work I was in the hospitals cafeteria getting a sandwich with chicken and cheese on it. And the director of risk management who is a vegetarian, starts talking to me and is like "you should go vegetarian, you'll be much healtier."
I found this slightly ironic because she was all of 5'2" and probably weighed 250-275 lbs.
The only vegans I dont care for are the crazed PETA types and the ones who are anti-vaccine and abortion(which is laughable).
I don't have a bias against vegans at all. I'm just saying that the only time I've seen someone get annoyed by a vegan is when they were being preachy. I don't think I've ever met a person who hates vegans for just being vegans.
Sorry, bad word choice on my part. I meant "your" in the general sense, not to call out you specifically.
And there are definitely people who hold that sort of bias. For instance, this post a few above yours:
This guy been out here low key trolling hard... has to be... I hope anyways..
Cmon man.. Not drinking or driving equates to not killing something for food when its not necessary? Some interesting logic..
I don't hate vegans, I hate [insert people of any lifestyle here] who act like their lifestyle choices make them better than me, or them trying to force me into also adopting that lifestyle. I don't mind if you're vegan, religious or anything but that in no way makes you better than me and in no way gives you the right to also try to force that choice on me.
Yeah true true... A lot of people think that opinions or beliefs should be personal, and not affect others who may disagree. That's cool and everything, but if you think that applies to veganism, you're looking at it backwards. Non-vegans/we are raised to believe that actually killing others is totally fine. That belief requires others to die for you. Is that not a problem?
Aren't you forcing your way of life onto a third party who may disagree? Veganism is actually what fits your definition don't you think?
Point taken. I guess I just take it for granted that I live in LA and don't hang around intolerant assholes.
No, I didntt say they were equal. Not driving is good for the environment, not drinking is good for yourself. Both are sacrifices you could use to say you're a better person for making. Those are some of the similarities. It's taking an action on something you feel strongly about, which is good, but then telling other people they are bad for not taking the same action, which is not good.
If I want to eat meat it's necessary to kill an animal. I imagine lab grown is coming soon enough maybe itll be moot before we know it.
Taking an action doesnt bother most people. Saying you're better (and they would be better, too) for taking that action bothers people. That's all my post was illustrating.
Yes, the terrible devastation of the vegan-goths. I remember those dark days well.
It's a two-way street. Both parties should show the same courtesy. You can buy wastage food from the stores, that would be thrown into trash otherwise. Serving it instead would ensure it wouldn't go to waste.
It's pretty telling, that veganism is equated with religion. Is it forbidden for them to serve pork? After all, you could buy ready-made food like snacks, or delegate its preparing to someone else.
I'm flattered, since it triggered that kind of juvenile response.
Anti-veganism is not a sensibel position, so trying to both sides this is really dumb.
Wastage food is not suddenly cruelty free and by buying it you still support the same inudstries.
Vegans can't suddenly ignore thier morals when buying food for others.
I don't get it myself. People just love grouping and generalizing. Some may get overzealous, but instead of arguing try to understand where they are coming from. I think most vegans choose their lifestyle for a good cause. Eating less meat won't kill anyone. The vegans who're patronizing and guilt-tripping others shouldn't be so aggressive either. Both sides need to be empathetic for the other.
Food like music is a universal language we should all just enjoy.
Food like music is a universal language we should all just enjoy.
No, it's not. If your stance is that your needs have to be catered, but you aren't willing to do the same for others, it's just selfish, and underlines the holier than thou attitude.
So, it's better to leave the food to be thrown away, than to serve it to your quests? It's not endorsing the meat industry to avoid needless wastage.
EDIT: Plus, you can buy from independent cruelty-free companies.
Yes, it is. There is no reason to refuse to eat vegan food out of principle other than to be a dick to vegans.
Curelty-free meat, diary and egg production is not a thing.
My wife went vegan earlier this year and has tried to keep it quiet but it's been amazing to see the, sometimes horrible, reactions of family and friends. Like the earlier poster I suspect there's a lot of meat eaters who feel like they're being judged, when they're not.
who would you rather be trapped in a room with
a preachy vegan
or
a release-the-snyder-cut fanboy
a preachy vegan
or
a release-the-snyder-cut fanboy
The only thing that bothers me about vegans is that the food that vegan foodie-Youtubers present looks mostly bland even though, judged by the ingredients, it should taste great.
I'm also annoyed by the promotion of overpriced meat/dairy substitutes as if every one could afford them. Promote more DIY and experimenting cuisine in this regard (see Sauce Stache for example).
Plus, stop buying tofu in plastic packaging.....
I'm also annoyed by the promotion of overpriced meat/dairy substitutes as if every one could afford them. Promote more DIY and experimenting cuisine in this regard (see Sauce Stache for example).
Plus, stop buying tofu in plastic packaging.....
I do after I started dating a vegan. It's especially bad having many men around you. Most people are plain insulted suggesting to go for a vegan spot.
Yup
I'd also add that there's an absurd pride/cultural component in regard to eating meat that causes people to lash out.
You took the words out of my mouth. I'm not a vegan and I'm about 80% vegetarian. I don't feel the need to defend the ethics of eating meat and to a lesser extent eating animal products. There's no doubt in my mind that people hate vegans because subconsciously they don't like people reminding them that they take part in a monstrous industry.
To the people who say vegans are self righteous/preachy, how would you react if someone said they ate dog or horse meat? I guarantee you that many of the meat eaters in this thread would be on their soapbox instantly.
Everyone becomes preachy when it's something they care about.
Everyone becomes preachy when it's something they care about.
I never met a vegan who never tried giving me a sermon. I'm not trying to convert stomach faiths here. The belly wants what the belly wants.
You've probably met many, just they didn't advertise that they were and so you thought they weren't one.
Unfortunately lots of people react pretty harshly if someone says they eat dog or horse, which is hilarious because they're often chowing down on animals themselves. If a restaurant started serving dog meat, I'm pretty sure many meat eaters would turn militant right on the spot.
No, it's a one way street.
A vegan can't buy meat as it goes entirely against the core of their belief. It doesn't matter if it's "wastage" or not, they shouldn't be expected to buy meat. A meat eater can eat a vegan meal every now and then, jfc at the idea they can't. That is the only courtesy that matters here.
A mear eater should NEVER expect a vegan to prepare them meat for a meal. The fact some of you people can't comprehend this is so crazy.
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Bullshit, sorry. 10 years ago when I became aware of the caricature it was absolutely true of a significant number of vegans. Maybe not the majority, there's literally no way to know, but enough to annoy people.
I haven't seen that kind of behaviour for years, so I agree it's an outdated stereotype, but let's not pretend it just popped up from nowhere. Also even just you saying that people have a guilt complex is exactly the kind of holier than though attitude that riles people up, not because you're hitting a nerve, but because you're accusing people of being pricks.
That's a shame and I'm not surprised.
However, just know there are plenty of us out here who don't preach, it's just likely that you don't know were here because of the fact that we don't preach about it.
Opting to support a cruel industry does say something about your character. How could it not? I would defend this position to my death.
Speciesism is defiently pretty big in the west. So many people get angry that people eat dogs in other nations.
Eating pigs and cows is totally fine though, even though there is no meaningful difference between these species.