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What's the difference between an anime watcher/manga reader and a weeaboo?
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Pretty much. If someone told me they learned French because they loved Tintin or something I'd find it funny but cool.
There's no 'valid' reason to learn a language. And I mean, the initial reason doesn't really matter much anymore once you've put in the thousands of hours it takes to become really good at a language.
Watching any kind of anime/manga makes you a weeb/weeaboo in my book. No exceptions. How much does my random opinion matters? That's up to you.
It's not like I'm going around shaming people for watching japanese cartoons or whatever. I just judge them silently and feel severly sorry for them, but won't voice it out loud. So keep fucking those body pillows, enjoy life, it's too short to care about people who don't like the things you do.
Just don't be one of those anime freaks who are into being homophobes/racist/mysoginistic. God knows why those things seem to be related.
It's not like I'm going around shaming people for watching japanese cartoons or whatever. I just judge them silently and feel severly sorry for them, but won't voice it out loud. So keep fucking those body pillows, enjoy life, it's too short to care about people who don't like the things you do.
Just don't be one of those anime freaks who are into being homophobes/racist/mysoginistic. God knows why those things seem to be related.
Oh, and about the language thing? I learned english playing videogames, not because I remotely like the USA or England, it's just that it has been useful to speak with people of other countries and has given me advantages in my job. I completely dislike the languate though. Feels so repetitive. Why would anyone care about the motive of wanting to learn to be "true" or whatever.
Anyway, back to my German lessons while Rammstein is blasting in the background.
Anyway, back to my German lessons while Rammstein is blasting in the background.
Not America but I visited Australia recently (pretty much my first direct exposure to 'first world' country).
- I saw more obese people walking the street than I ever saw in my entire life.
- It's surreal seeing homeless white people begging and sleeping on street.
Nah, you're wrong. Hating dubs in general has nothing to do with being a weeb. Anime is not the only medium that gets dubbed. I can see how someone living within an English speaking bubble might think that but for other countries dubs can really ruin a movie.
Since the English speaking market is so big they can spend big bucks on the dub. Other, smaller countries might not get that VIP treatment and end up with really bad dubs. I personally hate German dubs. As an American / German I only ever watch movies and TV shows in their original English dub.
On the other hand, the Netflix Original "Dark" is a German show with German actors. I watched that in German because it's obviously superior to the English dub. In what world would any form of media ever not be superior in its original form?
You can argue about convenience since some people might not want to read subs or that the dub might be "good enough", which some certainly are, but the original will always be superior.
As others have mentioned, it's kind of up to the eye of the beholder. I think some characteristics are:
1) Engagement in anime/manga/japanese video games
2) Being white, and often being American
3) Poor social skills
4) Relating to others only through consumption patterns, i.e. aforementioned anime, video games, or manga.
5) A shallow understanding of Japan, based on idealization and with little to no understanding of Japanese history
6) A shallow understanding of Japan, based on anime/video games/manga
7) Lack of self-awareness.
8) Fetishization of Japanese, and Asians more broadly.
I don't think you need to have all of these characteristics but having more than a few of these makes you a weeb.
1) Engagement in anime/manga/japanese video games
2) Being white, and often being American
3) Poor social skills
4) Relating to others only through consumption patterns, i.e. aforementioned anime, video games, or manga.
5) A shallow understanding of Japan, based on idealization and with little to no understanding of Japanese history
6) A shallow understanding of Japan, based on anime/video games/manga
7) Lack of self-awareness.
8) Fetishization of Japanese, and Asians more broadly.
I don't think you need to have all of these characteristics but having more than a few of these makes you a weeb.
I'd agree 99% of the time. But there were way too many guys in the Japanese class who were clear that they were just learning it to complete their dream of traveling to Japan and dating a Japanese girl. I can't validate reasons like that lol.
Say no to fetishizing a culture
It's...pretty much why I avoid revealing I'm mexican most of the time in the internet. There's always the comments of "oh yeah, amigo, tequila, burrito, tacos, cinco de mayo, woo-hoo" and thinking we're listening to mariachi music non-stop, basically from Americans. They don't even want to know our country, they just seem to like a cartoon made up from stereotypes.
Just uh, if you like our country that's cool. Just avoid thinking that we all use sombreros all the time or using americanized versions of piñatas and thinking we only drink tequila or we're always passed out drunk next to a cactus, please.
I think I went a bit offtopic there but that's the thing that annoys me a lot from my past experiences when talking to people outside my country. Can't say I have had more good than bad.
Anime watcher/manga reader just consumes the media and probably have a normal discussion about the said media from time to time. Like a normal hobby.
A weeb unhealthily overconsumes the media to the point it took over their life and they become obnoxious .
Overconsumption of media/hobby is why we got the term : nerds, weebs, Bronies, 'gamers', otakus.etc
A weeb unhealthily overconsumes the media to the point it took over their life and they become obnoxious .
Overconsumption of media/hobby is why we got the term : nerds, weebs, Bronies, 'gamers', otakus.etc
A weeaboo is someone who believes they are an expert on Japanese culture because they watched an anime and believe that's how Japan is. They are also known for fetishism towards Japanese people and believing that Japan is the best country at everything (even ignoring the flaws and problems of the country) which results in them shunning their own country and culture.
Now don't get me wrong Japan has plenty of great cultural elements and things but to believe it can do no bad? That's just nonesense.
Anime and Manga fans are just fans that like the medium.
Now don't get me wrong Japan has plenty of great cultural elements and things but to believe it can do no bad? That's just nonesense.
Anime and Manga fans are just fans that like the medium.
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I can only speak for quality of English dubs specifically, can't personally judge the state of dubbing into other languages beyond second-hand reports, something that I could've clarified earlier. Preference of sub vs. dub will always be subjective, yet even then it's by no means a fact that the original is always superior, as rare as a localization being regarded as better rather than on par with something happens to be (i.e., Shinichiro Watanabe himself regarding the dub of Cowboy Bebop as superior to the original). It's that stubborn treatment of the issue as an objective truth that gets grating.
I accept that there might be that one off instance where the dub might be considered better than the original. Maybe the original budget was low and they couldn't get good voice actors but then the series took off and they had a bigger budget to work with for the localization but I consider those instances to be fringe cases that don't really skew the numbers. Like I said, it becomes much more apparent once you leave the English speaking bubble.
Based on many years of reading Weeb forums, my Weeb warning signs. If 2 or more of these apply, you're probably a weeb.
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You regularly watch more than one anime
You regularly read manga
90% of the video games you play are Japanese
You insist on playing a video game with Japanese audio even when your native language dub is available
You collect traditional Japanese things
You've attended an anime convention
You own anime themed clothing
You took Japanese as a foreign language in school
You defend Japan in any discussion about WW2 or immigration
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You regularly watch more than one anime
You regularly read manga
90% of the video games you play are Japanese
You insist on playing a video game with Japanese audio even when your native language dub is available
You collect traditional Japanese things
You've attended an anime convention
You own anime themed clothing
You took Japanese as a foreign language in school
You defend Japan in any discussion about WW2 or immigration
Based on my experiences:
A normal person who watches anime is willing to call out the problematic or gross bullshit that they might encounter or read about in a series, in the fandom, the industry, or even Japan itself and doesn't hold anime (or manga) on some pedestal as the greatest medium that God ever blessed upon this Earth nor do they treat Japan as some sacred holy ground of a country that is absolutely perfect and does nothing wrong.
A weeb is the opposite.
(God I still find it weird that the 'main' anime fandom I participate in, which is literally for a franchise aimed at elementary school-aged girls, is more mature and less tolerant of bullshit and gross creeps than other anime fandoms. But I guess that also comes with the territory of being a small fandom, easier to self-police and call out the bullshit and warn people of the gross people when it happens)
A normal person who watches anime is willing to call out the problematic or gross bullshit that they might encounter or read about in a series, in the fandom, the industry, or even Japan itself and doesn't hold anime (or manga) on some pedestal as the greatest medium that God ever blessed upon this Earth nor do they treat Japan as some sacred holy ground of a country that is absolutely perfect and does nothing wrong.
A weeb is the opposite.
(God I still find it weird that the 'main' anime fandom I participate in, which is literally for a franchise aimed at elementary school-aged girls, is more mature and less tolerant of bullshit and gross creeps than other anime fandoms. But I guess that also comes with the territory of being a small fandom, easier to self-police and call out the bullshit and warn people of the gross people when it happens)
All I know is if you dismissed all dubs you'd miss out on Ghost Stories dub. And that's a travesty.
One of my favorite copypastas:
There's a Taiwanese dude in my lab that reminds me of this lol. Dude sometimes comes to the lab in full medieval armour (metal chainmail, gauntlets, tabard, helmet, sword, etc. – it looks pretty legit) and he's really into nerdy stuff like Star Wars. Cool guy but seeing him walk in knight's attire around campus always makes me do a double take lol
Man, I know it's from a 'chan', but that is so damn good,One of my favorite copypastas:
Guten Tag Resetera, my name is Junpei Schmitt
I'm a 29 year old Tatortian (Tatort fan for you Ausländer). I make my own sausages and brew my own beer, and spend my days perfecting my skills and playing superior german games. (Omnibussimulator, Autobahn Raser)
I train with my Tiger Panzer every day, this superior weapon can shoot over 2500 metres and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my tank driving licence 3 years ago, and i have been getting better every day.
I speak german fluently, both the bavarian and berliner accents, and i write fluently as well. I know everything about german history and their Grundgesetz, which i follow 100%.
When i get my Schengen visa, i will be moving to Munich to attend a prestigious Fachhochschule to learn more about their wunderbare culture. I hope i can become a b-list actor for the Öffentliche Rundfunk or a Schlager singer!
i own several Lederhosen which i wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before i move to Germany, so i can fit in easier. I speak german as often as i can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.
Wish me luck Deutschland!
I'm a 29 year old Tatortian (Tatort fan for you Ausländer). I make my own sausages and brew my own beer, and spend my days perfecting my skills and playing superior german games. (Omnibussimulator, Autobahn Raser)
I train with my Tiger Panzer every day, this superior weapon can shoot over 2500 metres and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my tank driving licence 3 years ago, and i have been getting better every day.
I speak german fluently, both the bavarian and berliner accents, and i write fluently as well. I know everything about german history and their Grundgesetz, which i follow 100%.
When i get my Schengen visa, i will be moving to Munich to attend a prestigious Fachhochschule to learn more about their wunderbare culture. I hope i can become a b-list actor for the Öffentliche Rundfunk or a Schlager singer!
i own several Lederhosen which i wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before i move to Germany, so i can fit in easier. I speak german as often as i can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.
Wish me luck Deutschland!
Then they turn around and start fetishizing japanese women or saying racist shit about minorities. Which results in us looking at them like this:
I'm a strong believer of watching things in the original language with subs.
Playing is a different matter, although usually American dubs of Japanese games are excruciating, UK ones too if you think of Breath of the Wild.
From what I can tell, it generally means one of two things depending on what group you're in.
For people into anime and manga, it tends to be people who argue about how subs are always better than dubs and insist on using certain Japanese terms instead of English terms that work fine as a substitute.
For people not that into anime and manga, it generally means people who defend the really problematic parts a lot of anime has.
For people into anime and manga, it tends to be people who argue about how subs are always better than dubs and insist on using certain Japanese terms instead of English terms that work fine as a substitute.
For people not that into anime and manga, it generally means people who defend the really problematic parts a lot of anime has.
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Guten Tag Resetera, my name is Junpei Schmitt
I'm a 29 year old Tatortian (Tatort fan for you Ausländer). I make my own sausages and brew my own beer, and spend my days perfecting my skills and playing superior german games. (Omnibussimulator, Autobahn Raser)
I train with my Tiger Panzer every day, this superior weapon can shoot over 2500 metres and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my tank driving licence 3 years ago, and i have been getting better every day.
I speak german fluently, both the bavarian and berliner accents, and i write fluently as well. I know everything about german history and their Grundgesetz, which i follow 100%.
When i get my Schengen visa, i will be moving to Munich to attend a prestigious Fachhochschule to learn more about their wunderbare culture. I hope i can become a b-list actor for the Öffentliche Rundfunk or a Schlager singer!
i own several Lederhosen which i wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before i move to Germany, so i can fit in easier. I speak german as often as i can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.
Wish me luck Deutschland!
Now, let's not drag Takeo into this crap.
I was legit working at a pop culture convention over the weekend, and had a customer REFUSE to buy a My Hero Academia manga because it didn't say 'Boku No' etc. as the title.
THAT is a weeb.
I assume you're referring to people who do this OUTSIDE of Japan.
The inevitable reality of living in Japan for years is that some words you remember better in Japanese than in English, and they come out in normal conversation around others that speak both Japanese and English.
This is the same for bilingual people who speak both languages in their household.
The definition of a weeb for those of us who have lived in Japan for years varies, I think.
Usually it means 1) Someone who thinks Japan is flawless and it's the perfect country, and lecture others on it, despite only having lived in japan for a year, or 2) Someone that entrenches them in Japanese culture at a cursory level, but in no meaningful way (ie. has a kimono, and fetishizes Japanese imagery, but never learns Japanese or tries to fit in or converse with their locals).
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People who obsess with Japanese culture to the point they come off as if they want to be Japanese. Also if anime, manga, and Japanese games are their only hobbies.
Another good indicator is if they think any dub is bad since it not the "authentic Japanese language version". Also ironically inserting Japanese lingo/terminology into everyday English speech.
Also anyone who refers to "My Hero Acadamia" as "Boku no Hero Academia".
Another good indicator is if they think any dub is bad since it not the "authentic Japanese language version". Also ironically inserting Japanese lingo/terminology into everyday English speech.
Also anyone who refers to "My Hero Acadamia" as "Boku no Hero Academia".
Answer yes or no to any of the below then you are good.
Watched Pokemon as a child?
Watched Dragon Ball Z or the other similar ones in your teens?
Watched a few anime on CNX, Toonami, Netflix, Adult Swim or Vice?
Watched/read the most well regarded anime by non-anime critics like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, studio ghibli and Perfect Blue?
Watched/read something out of curiosity or a recommendation?
If you answer yes to any of the below you are a weeb regardless of any answers to the above.
An adult and still watching/playing Pokemon for anything more than a nostalgia trip or you have a child that watches it?
An adult and still watching DBZ those other shows for anything other than nostalgia or have a teen that watches it?
Do you have a collection of anime/manga?
Do you subscribe to an anime/manga streaming service?
Have you never been to Japan yet think it's culturally superior?
Do you wear clothing with characters or references to anime/manga?
Is your knowledge of Japan based around anime/manga and have no idea about real Japan?
If you lived in Japan would you be considered a massive nerd by their standards?
Do you own dolls and call them action-figures?
I think that covers the very basics.
Watched Pokemon as a child?
Watched Dragon Ball Z or the other similar ones in your teens?
Watched a few anime on CNX, Toonami, Netflix, Adult Swim or Vice?
Watched/read the most well regarded anime by non-anime critics like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, studio ghibli and Perfect Blue?
Watched/read something out of curiosity or a recommendation?
If you answer yes to any of the below you are a weeb regardless of any answers to the above.
An adult and still watching/playing Pokemon for anything more than a nostalgia trip or you have a child that watches it?
An adult and still watching DBZ those other shows for anything other than nostalgia or have a teen that watches it?
Do you have a collection of anime/manga?
Do you subscribe to an anime/manga streaming service?
Have you never been to Japan yet think it's culturally superior?
Do you wear clothing with characters or references to anime/manga?
Is your knowledge of Japan based around anime/manga and have no idea about real Japan?
If you lived in Japan would you be considered a massive nerd by their standards?
Do you own dolls and call them action-figures?
I think that covers the very basics.
Weeaboos are guys who fetishizes one specific Asian country because "they make games/anime I like"
How do you think it's hate for Asian culture in general?
It's not like weebs are going to be respective of Japanese customs and history.
Arent new Pokemon games still good games?
I still have my collection of anime, because I dont really want to throw it away or sell it(well some shit I sold)
I still have some Manga because again I dont really want to sell the stuff, but I barely read my older stuff its just collecting dust cept when my little cousins come over and ask why its black and white instead of like my other comics(yes they just call them comics) which are Marvel/DC/Image stuff so in color.
Does still watching DragonBall Super count? Or is it specifically DBZ?
Since ive answered yes to a number of the questions....I must be a weeb?
Note in my home country pretty much everyone born in the 80s and 90s is pretty much a weeb, because a good number of cartoons that played on TV were anime, finding out there was DVDs/VHSs and comics(manga) for the cartoon led to people saving up to see what happens next(internet wasnt as prevalent).
A weeb will identify as an anime boy/girl online and talk shit, ie waifu wars.
They're likely to misinterpret things to be a cultural thing and will go to lengths to defend that. Act as if they get personally offended when a work gets genuine criticism. Like they see themselves as advocates of Japan, but they're unlikely to visit, learn Japanese or be concerned about Japanese society. So you shouldn't confuse them with Japanophiles.
While politically they can differ, you'll see quite a few align with the alt right.
They're likely to misinterpret things to be a cultural thing and will go to lengths to defend that. Act as if they get personally offended when a work gets genuine criticism. Like they see themselves as advocates of Japan, but they're unlikely to visit, learn Japanese or be concerned about Japanese society. So you shouldn't confuse them with Japanophiles.
While politically they can differ, you'll see quite a few align with the alt right.
A weeaboo to me is just a dude who tries to use Japanese randomly. Like saying "Nani?!". They also claim Japan is the best country and better than x just because they make their favorite anime.
I'd say the following are the signs of a weeaboo
1) instant hate for all English dubs regardless of quality
2) hate for any changes in localization that are designed to better translate a concept or joke into English
3) ignoring the official English title of a series, often given by the creators themselves, in favor of the romanji name ie calling it boku no hero academia instead of my hero academia
4) someone who "can't wait" for the official release so they find pirated copies so they can be the first to have read/watched
5) uses random Japanese phrases unironically in a normal conversation
1) instant hate for all English dubs regardless of quality
2) hate for any changes in localization that are designed to better translate a concept or joke into English
3) ignoring the official English title of a series, often given by the creators themselves, in favor of the romanji name ie calling it boku no hero academia instead of my hero academia
4) someone who "can't wait" for the official release so they find pirated copies so they can be the first to have read/watched
5) uses random Japanese phrases unironically in a normal conversation