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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
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Not only that but the fact that they go so far as to basically say 'hey we had him last year and didn't have any problems' feels like a shitty thing to say in the face of these allegations.
Yeah, that's not great. The specific mention of lack of previous incidents does feel like it could be feeding into that side, but it may be true that they don't have that information, which could also be due to failures of previous leadership.
I can't entirely blame them for wanting to wash their hands of this though, even if I think they went about it in a bad way. My main concern is if they use this to justify bringing Vic back as that actually creates a threat to the guests at the con.
I can't entirely blame them for wanting to wash their hands of this though, even if I think they went about it in a bad way. My main concern is if they use this to justify bringing Vic back as that actually creates a threat to the guests at the con.
Our Twitterer is going in on TEKKO's responses right now.
Responses include some tone deaf tweets from an account claiming to be TEKKO's CEO, Peter Gaudoin. Said account was just created.
#TeamTekko doesn't care because the current board didn't see it themselves. This is why Vic got away so long. What I posted was from 2 former managers. Literally a half dozen managers spoke up on this. Hold conventions accountable. You do not get to wait until your watch.
Responses include some tone deaf tweets from an account claiming to be TEKKO's CEO, Peter Gaudoin. Said account was just created.
We could stand to do that, since none of the actual legal stuff is covered. There was another thread for the Twitter lawyers talking about how ridiculous the whole thing was, but most people just kept discussing here.
But also, so much of what's happened lately is kinda... day to day significant, but not necessarily meaningful longterm? It's a little hard to tell what people need to be updated on, I guess.
Probably need to cover start of the lawsuit, the people involved, and then mainly the recent motion to compel stuff. Maybe a brief FAQ for some of the more common arguments/misunderstandings being spread too.
Peter Gaudoin, the apparent CEO of Tekko, seems to have made a Twitter account, and has been making an absolute ass of himself.
Well shit... I was gonna say we should be wary of this account since it was created yesterday and its only tweets are replies, but reading through them it seems like it actually is him.
What the fuck is it about Vic that makes con heads show their asses?!
it sounds like the deposition may have been quite involved.
I wonder how many other cons they have gotten in contact with.
either way we will likely not see any of them
Smaller anime conventions tend to be spun out of anime clubs, and anime clubs can have bizarre, cult-like leadership. It's only natural that some of them would identify with Vic.
Anime clubs can get very awkward and incel-y (speaking from personal experience), so this isn't a shock.
All rumors I have seen have pointed towards them not actually taking the time to retell the Broly movie.
"The new voice for Broly will be played by ::drum roll::
Monica Rial!!!!"
Okay, if this is actually the guy behind this con, this is the point where he loses my sympathy. The reason people "shout from the rooftops" is because women have been sharing stories that have been kept silent. The reason women have been sharing their stories is because they're looking for new channels with which to seek a solution to the problem. The reason they're seeking new channels is because the legitimate channels have failed to do anything to stop it.
Now, for anyone else, that would just be ignorant. As the person in charge of said legitimate channel, he's the one who should be showing responsibility and trying to fix the problem. Instead he's trying to silence those that have sought a solution.
As an Indian man, I've long felt that any voice actor is only one good curry-induced bowel movement away from being able to play Broly.
Ya, my experience with anime clubs was in the late-'90s/early-'00s, which was a much different time. It was 90% awkward and frustrated 16~45 year old men, but the incel rage hadn't culturally metastasized yet. Anyway, the presidents of a couple of the clubs I attended let their status of king of the nerds go completely to their heads, and there was a lot of drama and in-fighting. Especially so when the first anime convention in our city led to a schizm with lots of con backstabbing over the years.
I feel like when you're so bad at PR that you have to ask people not to show everyone what you said, that's a good time for a reminder that "shut the fuck up" is always an option.
"For every good thing that you do, you do something equally shitty" reminded me of that Reddit compilation, where I looked up the redditor and he said KickVic's hands aren't clean either because they're calling Vic a pedo. The standard thing where you want to be superior and above it all without actually acknowledging that sometimes one side actually has more grounding than the other.
Then he goes into "the truth is, I very much understand what that hopelessness feels like" and I'm starting to wonder if this is an Anime Matsuri situation.
"For every good thing that you do, you do something equally shitty" reminded me of that Reddit compilation, where I looked up the redditor and he said KickVic's hands aren't clean either because they're calling Vic a pedo. The standard thing where you want to be superior and above it all without actually acknowledging that sometimes one side actually has more grounding than the other.
Then he goes into "the truth is, I very much understand what that hopelessness feels like" and I'm starting to wonder if this is an Anime Matsuri situation.
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There's no way this dude has a job come Monday, right?
Like I said on Twitter, you can't fucking sue an organization for just saying "We're not inviting this person any longer" and nothing else. That's all it'd take. Literally all it'd take. And anyone paying attention to the case who isn't brainwashed or a Comicsgate sympathizer (there is a difference believe it or not), it's obvious how horribly Vic's lawyer's are fumbling, and because of the massive graveyard of skeletons in his metaphorical closet.
What the hell was that Tekko guy thinking wading into things the way he did?
I could almost have sympathised with him initially if not for him making it so weirdly personal about that woman he's arguing with.
I could almost have sympathised with him initially if not for him making it so weirdly personal about that woman he's arguing with.
The way he's been behaving makes a lot more sense when you think it's driven by some sort of personal issue, possibly one that makes him sympathetic to Vic or unsympathetic to his accusers. His actions don't make any sense when you think of them from the business angle because they don't seem to be meant in service of that.
Like...
I would be vaguely sympathetic towards the dude at first, in that he is getting things dropped on him that happened during a time when he was not really involved with the con. And I can see how being hit by that, you might react poorly. But then that response... Nah. Making it all about his pain, while being dismissive and talking about it like it's just some divisive split in opinion rather than people trying to deal with a predator...
it reads like the comments sections of some websites I can think of, where people try to politely post absolute nonsense like that, decrying "internet lynchings" or whatever, mindlessly arguing in favor of being nice to horrible people instead of actually taking a look at what they've done
I would be vaguely sympathetic towards the dude at first, in that he is getting things dropped on him that happened during a time when he was not really involved with the con. And I can see how being hit by that, you might react poorly. But then that response... Nah. Making it all about his pain, while being dismissive and talking about it like it's just some divisive split in opinion rather than people trying to deal with a predator...
it reads like the comments sections of some websites I can think of, where people try to politely post absolute nonsense like that, decrying "internet lynchings" or whatever, mindlessly arguing in favor of being nice to horrible people instead of actually taking a look at what they've done
The worst thing is that she did contact them first via e-mail and got nothing. This was tried to be done civilly and privately.
Then once she goes public, instant response. Funny, that.
It was also pointed out to me all was needed was for the people who were concerned about what happened in '04/'07 was a private confirmation, not even a public one, which, yeah, I kinda agree with. It's old drama that needn't have been brought up except in the court case if it weren't a public safety issue. But then radio silence so... welp.
Then once she goes public, instant response. Funny, that.
It was also pointed out to me all was needed was for the people who were concerned about what happened in '04/'07 was a private confirmation, not even a public one, which, yeah, I kinda agree with. It's old drama that needn't have been brought up except in the court case if it weren't a public safety issue. But then radio silence so... welp.
Major Midwestern convention ACen (Anime Central) apparently banned Vic but he kept coming back:
And here's how Vic treated one of his guest handlers:
And here's how Vic treated one of his guest handlers:
That AnimeCentral story is thoroughly awful. It really hammers in how Vic is the sort of person who acts solely in service of his own megalomania; he probably became a cop so that he could lord his power over others.
Between Peter Gaudoin's self-pity and turning this situation, and other's assessments of him, I'm wondering if he might be the sort of person who blames the world for no one liking him when it's really just because he's a huge unrepentant asshole.
Between Peter Gaudoin's self-pity and turning this situation, and other's assessments of him, I'm wondering if he might be the sort of person who blames the world for no one liking him when it's really just because he's a huge unrepentant asshole.
Wasn't he a teacher at one point too? Would certainly fit the profile.
Also, I'd love to get the lowdown on how he ended up leaving those two professions too. Shame there's probably no way to find out.
For the police one, going by his resume - it's available on his website - he used to do videos for his police force, so there's a pretty clear transition to entertainment from there.
Here's a report that apparently YouTube's algorithm is "suppressing" videos about Vic:
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That site is THE site for Comicgate bullshit. I wouldn't trust them if they told me the sky was blue
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Oh damn, didn't know that. I found that article by searching Vic's name in the Google News search.
Yeah, they are basically involved in almost every major alt-right crusade in the entertainment space. From Ghostbusters 2016 to Star Trek, Star Wars and Captain Marvel.
So they being vicstans is really not a surprise.
Besides alt-right assholes...who are these guys? And yeah, bounding into comics is fucking terrible.
Yeah I didn't knew it either at first when I got a suggestion from my mobile browser about it a few days ago. As soon as I saw another article that was pro-ComicsGate I noooped out of there.
