Reading the comment section has generally given me an aneurism. These people are some of the dumbest fuck ups I've ever had the misfortune to encounter.
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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
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At this point i paid for an over glorified marketplace
Ah, thanks dude!
Just muted someone after realizing I'd get nowhere with them. Looking at his timeline....
Yeah. Yeah it is.
I mean, TFS will still be there, at least due to their inability to pull out without having a huge troll target on their backs?
Ehhhhh.... :<
Evreyone I know of tfs are of the left variety, but they probably are scared of the harassment campain they would get for pulling out
Oh I know, and that's what I meant. My "ehhhh" was because I realize it's probably actually an empty comfort for those afraid their money's gone to waste/supporting a creep.
The tweets are showing up now, on and off. So weird. Thank you for letting me know.
My heart really goes out to Monica. I'm very curious as to what announcements the convention plans to make.
If it's really true that Vic and his lawyer friend bullied the con into being a guest again, no one is gonna want him at their con. And if he does the same to Funimation, he's gonna be too much of a hassle for what he's worth in the vo industry, not to mention his sullied reputation. There are plenty of newcomers alone as well as other established talent that aren't a liability they could easily hire instead. VAs are a dime a dozen. He isn't special and needs to stop digging a deeper hole for himself. But will he? Probably not. He's still a delusional diva who thinks he's above everyone. Any normal person would have stopped by now or stayed low for a time. Or you know not be a creep to begin with lol
Someone tweeted Kameha Con about adding Fantasy Soft as a guest. Wasn't that the StandWithVic affiliated anime company that we were making fun of earlier because it's named like a '90s eroge company? Are people actually trying to make this into Vic Con?
It's almost like they forgot this is a DBZ con. Not a Pro Vic Con.. though that seems to be what it is now that VAs are dropping.
Kameha Con is in Texas, right? This is a bit of a tangent, but hate speech is kind of meaningless in the US anyway; the protection on free speech is too broad and unlimited for it to be enforceable. In fact, it's been explicitly stated multiple times by the Supreme Court that hate speech is as protected as other speech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.A.V._v._City_of_St._Paul
In the context of Vic and his lawyer, it's all meaningless babble. There's no legal consequence to be achieved by debating the definition, they're just empty words being thrown around to decide the narrative by brute force.
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Same here. The only stuff I've read regarding this is from this thread here.
I'm not surprised it's a fan con. From my experience with those years ago, they tend to be mired in drama and bad impulsive decisions because there's no one to say to the leader of the fan group "that's a bad idea".
Just remembered about when a small con in my community was up to no good (nothing of this caliber, just literally overcharging people for every little thing), we had an cosplay/geek event in a park nearby in protest. It actually was a lot of fun and the aforementioned con no longer exists.
Could be a fun option for those wishing to make a statement against Kamehacon.
Could be a fun option for those wishing to make a statement against Kamehacon.
I would not be surprised if that's pretty much exactly what the guests that are leaving had in mind.
Anime News Network got a copy of Con's contract and under the actual terms the Con actually wan''t allowed to rescind the invitation to Vic.
It's a case of specific wording. Though I think most people who weren't narcissist would see the writing on the wall and bow out instead of trying to strong arm his way back to being invited.
ANN obtained a copy of the Kamehacon contract: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...esponds-to-recent-guest-cancellations/.145005
I feel like you could make an argument against Vic under the reasons listed for potential cancellation there. Vic being outed as a sexual predator was out of Kamehacon's control.
They probably were hoping he just bows out and not act on it
So yeah they definitely didn't want the legal headache
And I think most people in Vic's situation would've started lying low hoping for this stuff to past. I don't think anyone could've predicted just how much of a delusional narcissist the guy is.
They probably could, but going to court is also expensive and I doubt a con in its second year has that kind of money.
I remember blackface lawyer making a claim that the con runner thought about cancelling it all together due to the "bullying" from Monica and Chris. I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually in reference blackface lawyer and Vic's lawyer threatening legal action.
Vic's only hurting himself with this short term "Victory". He makes himself look more like a slime ball, he's making it less likely that future cons would invite him, he could potentially kill Kamehacon, he's dropped his chances of ever working with Fuini again from zero to below zero and this might actually lead some of his victims to finally take him to court.
I'd say that when you get away with being a shithead for so long you tend to feel invincible...*looks at trump*
Vic being there is also a safety concern, if he were to sexually harass or assault anyone wouldn't the con be liable because they knew? And if any fights break out because of him aren't they also liable?
They probably didn't think ahead or actually contact any lawyers to argue that.
That's what I was saying. I actually think he'll tone the creepiness down for this con.
But what about fights? What about his "fans" showing up just to start shit?
A lot of people are selling their tickets too because they no longer want to go, I imagine a lot of alt-right shit heads are buying those up.
If they did lock themselves in the room with Vic - which is a really unfortunate lack of foresight - then any future con would probably have to be an outright response to this one. Make it extremely clear what direction they actually want to take.
OH mighty Shenron I wish for Vic and his Troll cultists to go away.
Kameha con just keeps on getting worse and worse. Wouldn't shock me if most people attending this con now are Vic's dumbass fanboys.
I'm still not sure they even plan on doing any future Kamehacons after all this.
Haven't you heard? Vic IS Dragonball. So of course KamehaCon is actually VicCon.
Jesus fucking Christ, what reality is this.
Just as I wasn't surprised when these allegations came out after my various run-ins with Vic over the years, I'm also not at all surprised by any of his behaviour over the past two months.
I am, however, surprised the Republican party hasn't come calling with a recruitment offer given the cult of personality Vic's built for himself and the delusions of grandeur this man has.
If they do, they need to change their contract to be at-will. And, you know, not invite Vic.
The wrong reality that's what. Can't believe that there's people who actually spew this garbage.
They think Vic is what made the Broly movie so good and successful. They're nuts, but we already knew this due to them frequently denying reality.
First, point out that there's no actual reason that both sides have to have their faults or be equally bad; it's just an easy feel-good statement to avoid having to evaluate them or acknowledge what the faults are.
Second, point out that one side is knowingly defending and enabling a known and repeat sexual predator, attacking those who point out behaviour that has been known for years, and spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories so that he can continue. Note that this is primarily based on misogyny and there's no actual well-intentioned agenda or goal to achieve. Note that several of the sex predator's colleagues have supported the allegations, but they're being attacked as well; if that side are fans of the anime industry, they're attacking it rather than defending it.
Third, point out that the only real fault that's come out of the other side is a "false swatting accusation", which seems to be an simulated break-in meant to look like a swatting. Ask if someone mistaking a damaged home for a swatting is comparable to the deliberate harm above.
"But what if one side suddenly decides to approach you real close and starts kissing/sniffing your neck and ears?"