I'd love to see Old Tzimisce as well, working with nature spirits and shit. Could be fun and imaginative in an urban jungle setting like Seattle.
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Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 announced (2020 Q2 or later), PS4, X1, Steam/GOG/EGS, Paradox + Hardsuit Labs)
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BTW, is there a recommended list of visual mods for Bloodlines? The wife wants to get into it, but it's quite... ugly now well into 2019.
I don't want to do a total rebuild that deviates from the original look, just to make it prettier.
I don't want to do a total rebuild that deviates from the original look, just to make it prettier.
The PCgamer article is right in this seeming really ambitious. I'm surprised they're implementing V5's Blood Resonance. It's just an extra layer of complexity I would have personally likely scrapped pre-development. But it's also accurate in highlighting many of Bloodline's troubles being due to an unfamiliar engine (which Valve provided basically fuck all help with), and being forced to release the game the same day as Half Life 2.
Also on the topic of Tzimisce... they're not even playable in the 5th edition Tabletop game yet. So don't hold your breath for them being in B2.
Also on the topic of Tzimisce... they're not even playable in the 5th edition Tabletop game yet. So don't hold your breath for them being in B2.
0. Buggy, unstable, and unfinished version of Source. It's not even playable without mods anymore.
Pin your hopes instead on the inevitable port to Bloodlines 2 once people get their hands on the mod tools.
Unless they were somehow able to incorporate the unofficial patch I would say pretty much 0. It would take too much work for it not to be a detriment to the brand probably.
I would go with zero. The game is already a cult classic that's been hyped for 16 years, and can be run on a toaster these days.
It seems we will be restricted to two disciplines from the full-blood clan, and one thinblood we take at the start of the game.
Hmm. Don't know how I'd feel about that, but at least it seems like the passive buff disciplines would be more interesting?
Character model is legit. Sunglasses and beard make me think that it may be in-game or at least real time cut scene asset.
Guess they wanted to go away from Disciplines being just "buffs" to numbers. And that ain't a bad thing. Most powers in the first game were really just five levels of +1 to a stat. Their new approach gives each Discipline a unique feel.
If you squint hard enough you can see some of the powers at the end of the video.
A preview for ants. But a preview.
A preview for ants. But a preview.
Not a bad thing, but some clans would be gutted if they're this against overlap. What do Toreador get without Celerity? Other clans have super-strong identities wrapped up into Auspex and Presence.
Well, it's all guesswork for at least another 4 hours until the stream. Maybe Presence will be reworked into something more active, than just a "force of personality".
True, can but wait at this stage. Hopeful that Disciplines will also seed unique dialogue choices like in 1.
They can't make each clan unique, there aren't enough disciplines, and there's too much sharing. I almost can't believe they'd only give each clan two disciplines, clans have always had 3. And Brujah are much more than just the punch-mans clan, and that's illustrated through the fact they have Presence too. It's a thematic thing as much as a mechanical one.
(I don't even like the clan, and even I think it's terrible simplification of their ~*~lore~*~.)
(I don't even like the clan, and even I think it's terrible simplification of their ~*~lore~*~.)
If they really reduce it to two clan disciplines that would the first big letdown for me. Up to this point I liked nearly everthing but that would be a BIG letdown. I hope the article is just misleading. Luckely the stream will most likely answer the question.
YIKES. 2 powers with 3 tricks each. Hit the ground hard to make a Quake? What am I a superhero?
Caine save us.
https://www.bloodlines2.com/en/brujah
Based on this... really no Prasence... But the side has a mistakeand calls Celerity Mentalism anyway...
Based on this... really no Prasence... But the side has a mistakeand calls Celerity Mentalism anyway...
Both powers were totally lame in Bloodlines 1. That's an improvement.
Not a matter of improvements, its just way off of VtM. BUT I get its a video game and its gotta be flashy.
It's totally lame for a video game if it's just 'stat +X' depending on your discipline level.
I imagine the two discipline thing is to cut back on clan overlap, like Toreador and Brujahs both having Presence.
BL1 is one of the best games I've ever played and it wasn't flashy.
I knew they would cater to a different crowd with the sequel but it still is kind of shocking to see.
Gameplay wise BL1 was totally bad. It had a awesome story but the gameplay was totally broken.
Two Disciplines per Clan.
Also "we have a Clan with chalky white skin and weird eyes, Clan that needs to sleep in home soil, Clan that can't see itself in mirrors."
All mentioned in stream (but not confirmed).
Also "we have a Clan with chalky white skin and weird eyes, Clan that needs to sleep in home soil, Clan that can't see itself in mirrors."
All mentioned in stream (but not confirmed).
I think they are really leaning into the Thin-blood angle. Whichever of the 3 Thin-blood disciplines you choose in the early part of the game you will retain when you pick a clan, so they had to take out one of the traditional clan disciplines to make up for it.
From a gameplay perspective, this opens up more possibilities for varied "builds", but I suppose it does play havok with the established Canon somewhat.
In any case, Brujah being a starter clan was almost a no-brainer- it's as pure a " fighter" archetype class as you can get.
If they're gonna stick with the "vanilla" clans for the base game, I really hope they at least give them radically different dialogue. With the exception of Malks and Nosferatu, the other clans' playthroughs in Bloodlines were all too similar, story and dialogue-wise.
From a gameplay perspective, this opens up more possibilities for varied "builds", but I suppose it does play havok with the established Canon somewhat.
In any case, Brujah being a starter clan was almost a no-brainer- it's as pure a " fighter" archetype class as you can get.
If they're gonna stick with the "vanilla" clans for the base game, I really hope they at least give them radically different dialogue. With the exception of Malks and Nosferatu, the other clans' playthroughs in Bloodlines were all too similar, story and dialogue-wise.
That was just flavour stuff from the lore, they clearly said afterwards they don't confirm clans with this.
I can live with only two disciplines. As said, it makes each clan more different and prevents overlapping. Makes you pick yours more carefully.
And Brujah is a must. People like to tear shit up. I fully expect Toreador for the same reason, with some reservations about Ventrue if they plan to introduce other less mainstream clans.
And Brujah is a must. People like to tear shit up. I fully expect Toreador for the same reason, with some reservations about Ventrue if they plan to introduce other less mainstream clans.
Yeah, we've probably got the trinity covered:
Brujah - Fighter
Tremere - Wizard
Nosferatu - Rogue
And then I guess
Toreador - Bard/Face character
Ventrue - Captain/Leader
Ditto, six actives is a lot to juggle and I expect the community to make a mod for those of us that want a fourth discipline (like me!).
And I'd love to see Lasombra in lieu of Ventrue, if it's one or the other.
Tbh, Ventrue and Toreador feel like they overlap the most. I'd absolutely love for a Ventrue to be replaced by a Malk for a totally unique experience.
But sadly, I really doubt we'll get Malks at launch. I might hold off on playing the game until we do. (My original Bloodlines run was a Malk, and I'm still convinced that if it wasn't I would not hold the game in such high regard as I do now).
But sadly, I really doubt we'll get Malks at launch. I might hold off on playing the game until we do. (My original Bloodlines run was a Malk, and I'm still convinced that if it wasn't I would not hold the game in such high regard as I do now).
They clearly only mentioned some clan weaknesses from the lore. I wouldn't take this as confirmation for anything.
In fact, they specifically mentioned it wasn't confirmation (as I said in my post you quoted) but, you know...
Also, is it just me, or does the Brujah model sort of remind anyone else of Scott Dawson? ;p
I'm a Toreador, but I also love me some superdark, supergoth, superasshole vamps, so Lasombra is cool with me.
Looks like a young Graham McTavish to me.
And now I want a shit talking Scottish Brujah.
I'd say it pigeon holes each clan. Brujah can't be fighter who can also be social now it's just Fighters.
Say with Toreador. Take away celerity and they are just socialites (even more so). Etc