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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 3| "I think he's learned his lesson" says The Concerned Immoderate Darling Collins.
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If you were actually wondering about Dennis's teabag: Colbert Report: Kucinich's Pockets
(I have to confess my father has become one of those weird tea drinkers who dips the bag for only ten seconds or so.)
I'm aware of the multiple origins of the phrase "Beyond the Pale," which other people apparently were not. I don't think anyone uses it today as a slight against Jews or the Irish, it's just a phrase with a problematic history that people might accidentally use undiplomatically. It's ironic it was used to defend someone specifically about their Jewish heritage, much like we had UnapolgeticallyBLK innocently use "pound of flesh" about Bernie without knowing the history. I would also like to point out that, "No, you're wrong, it's not offensive" isn't supposed to be a thing here anymore. I'm not a Talmudic scholar, I just know my three elderly Jewish friends didn't like the phrase and I'll defer to their familiarity with its use.
But, and not to be rude here...wouldn't that be true of Bernie? If Bernie were running away with this, I doubt a lot of folks would have the same "But ti was a fractured field so we don't know anything" takes?
So, here's like the next month with the forecasted frontrunner according to 538:
TUESDAY, MARCH 10
Michigan (Biden or near split)
Washington (Sanders or near split)
Missouri (Biden, by a lot)
Mississippi (Biden, by a lot)
Idaho (Sanders)
North Dakota (Biden)
Democrats Abroad (Sanders)
SATURDAY, MARCH 14
Northern Marianas (Biden)
TUESDAY, MARCH 17
Florida (Biden, by a lot)
Illinois (Biden)
Ohio (Biden)
Arizona (Biden)
TUESDAY, MARCH 24
Georgia (Biden)
SUNDAY, MARCH 29
Puerto Rico (Biden)
SATURDAY, APRIL 4
Louisiana (Biden)
Hawaii (Aloha)
Alaska (Biden)
Wyoming (Biden)
That's... not a potentially good position to be in for Sanders with the delegate counts. And even in a lot of those I marked for Biden, if they split or go slightly for Sanders, that's not going to help the delegate wins for Biden in Florida and the South. Things can change, as we know, but most likely after the 17th this'll be done.
Hilary Rosen is a "Democratic Strategist", she's been around forever. This isn't stopping "Biden surrogate" from appearing on reddit or youtube videos.
lmao.... the second worst thing i've seen today
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Donna Brazile on Twitter
“We need each other. Main Street and Wall Street must come together. We are #StrongerTogether https://t.co/kILMfYc5Fy”
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lmao.... the second worst thing i've seen today
Donna Brazile on Twitter
“We need each other. Main Street and Wall Street must come together. We are #StrongerTogether https://t.co/kILMfYc5Fy”
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This is fucking embarrassing. Glad she's stuck at Fox News forever.
For as big as the field was, only 6 candidates ended up facing voters (in any meaningful way) and only half of them won anything prior to ST. Pete had no path after NV and SC proved non-white voters were largely ignoring him, which immediately sharpened the race into Biden v Bernie. What else should have been done and when? Candidates dropped out as soon as they ran out of cash or ran head on into their lack of viability, which I think is what normally happens.
I haven't been able to post much lately because of work, but wow what a whirlwind week.
Agreed.
This can definitely be Trump's "Katrina" but I think it's better for the facts on the ground to push that narrative rather than Democrats trying to hammer that messaging. If you look back on Katrina, it didn't become an ostrich for Bush because Congressional Democrats twisted the knife. It became a PR disaster once there was video footage on the evening news of Americans clinging for their lives on rooftops and horror stories from the SuperDome. Seeing a major American city look like a 3rd world country shocked the rest of the nation and fingers started pointing at the Bush administration when the response ranged from apathetic to incompetent. It was the realization that the government's poor response actually caused more people to die and be in hellhole conditions is what finally tarred Bush with the catastrophe.
Democrats are better to just let events play out. So far Trump has already made himself a prime target if things do end up spiraling out of control. The lack of widespread testing during the initial phases is a CRITICAL mistake this administration made. If they had earlier testing, they could have slowed the spread. Right now the virus is spreading across the country at complete unknown levels. Also the perception that Trump is more concerned about the stock market than public health, it could also catch up to him.
But we'll just need to see how everything plays out. We almost went to World War 3 two months ago, but we narrowly avoided that disaster. It's possible we might escape from this being in the worst-case scenarios, so Democrats need to be careful not to make themselves a target and being accused of overblowing an epidemic and trying to create a panic for political benefit. Trump is already accusing Democrats of this, but right now there's nothing to that for it to stick with the public.
When schools start closing and people can't goto work because businesses are shutting down, even in Red States, people will be pissed. It will be very real to them no matter what spin Trump gives.
Agreed.
This can definitely be Trump's "Katrina" but I think it's better for the facts on the ground to push that narrative rather than Democrats trying to hammer that messaging. If you look back on Katrina, it didn't become an ostrich for Bush because Congressional Democrats twisted the knife. It became a PR disaster once there was video footage on the evening news of Americans clinging for their lives on rooftops and horror stories from the SuperDome. Seeing a major American city look like a 3rd world country shocked the rest of the nation and fingers started pointing at the Bush administration when the response ranged from apathetic to incompetent. It was the realization that the government's poor response actually caused more people to die and be in hellhole conditions is what finally tarred Bush with the catastrophe.
Democrats are better to just let events play out. So far Trump has already made himself a prime target if things do end up spiraling out of control. The lack of widespread testing during the initial phases is a CRITICAL mistake this administration made. If they had earlier testing, they could have slowed the spread. Right now the virus is spreading across the country at complete unknown levels. Also the perception that Trump is more concerned about the stock market than public health, it could also catch up to him.
But we'll just need to see how everything plays out. We almost went to World War 3 two months ago, but we narrowly avoided that disaster. It's possible we might escape from this being in the worst-case scenarios, so Democrats need to be careful not to make themselves a target and being accused of overblowing an epidemic and trying to create a panic for political benefit. Trump is already accusing Democrats of this, but right now there's nothing to that for it to stick with the public.
When schools start closing and people can't goto work because businesses are shutting down, even in Red States, people will be pissed. It will be very real to them no matter what spin Trump gives.
To be clear, "Democratic Strategist" doesn't really mean anything. Like, she doesn't work a strategist for the Democratic party. She works for a consulting firm if that is who you want to fire her?
Congressional Dems are working with the Congressional GOP on a legitimate response to this right now. Trump's admin is actively fucking up horribly, but getting the bill passed with veto-proof majorities before you go on the offense of the WH seems necessary.
She should be fired by whoever is her employer because her conduct on that segment was racist and vile.
What Rosen said was totally unacceptable...but, someone correct me if I'm wrong...she's just a strategist, right? She doesn't have any official ties to Biden's campaign. He can come out and condemn her for her asinine ...whatever that was, but she's not his surrogate.
Edit: Did she do something horrible like this before years ago or am I thinking of someone else?
Edit: Did she do something horrible like this before years ago or am I thinking of someone else?
The Malpai founders, several of whom are conservative Republicans like McDonald, insist they continue to support strong border security, pointing out their many years of close cooperation with the U.S. Border Patrol to report illegal activity and grant access to their properties.
What they oppose is the decision to put the massive steel barrier here, where they say it is unnecessary, wasteful and destructive. Border Patrol officials argue that the new fencing will safeguard the country for decades to come, but many of the ranching families who live here — and who have spent their lives trying to strike a balance between wildlife and cattle, tradition and regulation — say they have been pushed aside.
The 20-mile stretch of border east of Douglas, Ariz., where crews are working, was once among the busiest places for illegal crossings. But it has been quiet for years, with just a few arrests each month, the families say. Their claims are supported by internal U.S. Customs and Border Protection reports obtained by The Washington Post that show the area is not a priority for the Border Patrol; it was not among the top 15 locations where the agency said it urgently needed new barriers.
The Trump administration is building here anyway. The president is running for reelection on a promise to complete more than 500 miles of new border fence by early next year. While progress has been extremely slow in Texas, where nearly all of the land is in private hands, this area along the New Mexico-Arizona border has seen the pace of construction accelerate.
She ran the RIAA, she has always been shit. #freenapster
This is what I will always remember her for, but I am sure she has had many controversies since
I mean any company who has hired her should fire her. It's a bad look all around. CNN should never have her on either.
This is in reference to the 8 billion dollar Covid-19 fund right?
That was Chris Cuomo moderating it. Chris Hayes would have shut that shit down immediately lol
Biden used a phrase whose etymology can be considered anti-Semitic (or even anti-Irish, though that would have no bearing here). He didn't use it as such, so no, he's not being anti-Semitic. Republicans construed that Schumer was threatening Supreme Court justices when he obviously was parroting Kavanaugh. There are lots of phrases used innocently that have bad history. "Blue blood," "peanut gallery," "grandfather clause," "bulldozer," "tipping point" are all phrases with racist origins.
Capital markets and publicly traded companies can provide opportunities and resources for small businesses that enable them to be more successful, and in turn large companies rely on the business of smaller business to be viable. They already work together, and Donna's right that we're better together than standing alone.
lmao.... the second worst thing i've seen today
Donna Brazile on Twitter
“We need each other. Main Street and Wall Street must come together. We are #StrongerTogether https://t.co/kILMfYc5Fy”
that ratio
Tweet is from a GlobalNews (Canada) reporter.
Jackson Proskow @JProskowGlobalmaybe an illusion from the photo of a TV on an angle?
4:51 PM - Mar 6, 2020
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Also, I really think if Warren were a man she'd have won. Bernie people need to campaign with greater emotional intelligence, etc., etc. - and she did all of that. America just wasn't ready. I disliked many of her moves at the end but she reminds me a lot of the progressive white women I grew up with like my mom. The attacks and the snake emojis (while coming from a minority) were disheartening to see. Damn this election year just sucks.
beyond the pale doesn't have any anti-Semtic connotation, or anti-Irish. It literally predates the entire existence of the Pale of Settlement and the English/Irish origin was a legal one. This is an absurd argument. It's an incredibly common idiom that is never used in an anti-semitic fashion (in this country at least). Terms like "grandfather clause" are not the same, because even though they have innocent uses today they had problematic origins as you note. "Beyond the Pale" doesn't
btw, The Pale of Settlement is where jews were allowed to settle. Beyond the pale would be where they were forbidden. As a term roughly equating to "bad" it wouldn't even make sense as an anti-semitic remark
We do vote-by-mail. I voted for Warren a week ago. I doubt that turnout is that affected.
Isn't it a bit late now to apply for and receive an absentee ballot?
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“The best run campaign this year that puched well above its weight was Pete Buttigieg, someone who had zero name ID to start. Really, shouldn't have even been a threat to a high name ID, well funded op like Sanders. But pure competence made him a real factor.”
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No, I mean we're like CO. All our vote is done by mail. They sent out the ballots maybe a week-and-a-half ago. Everyone gets a ballot by mail, and you just drop it in a mailbox or in a vote dropbox.
Interesting. I look at this and think "Man, Biden needs to put the hammer down." While the delegate math works out well for him in this scenario, it doesn't amount to an ass kicking. One of my constant criticisms of Hillary was that, as a candidate, she couldn't put her opponents away. They always lingered, and we saw how with a guy like Trump he was always one good punch away from being right back in the fight. With all of Joe's momentum I want to see him put this away with big wins, not just 54/46 splits in big states like Michigan. If this scenario above plays out, then I think Sanders not only stays in to the convention but does see some positive media coverage (or negative Biden coverage) that plays on the idea of a divided Democratic electorate.
Also, my heart refuses to believe that Hawaii will go for Tulsi when Massachusetts didn't go for Warren.
Meridith McGraw @meridithmcgrawTrump at the CDC: "As of the time I left the plane with you, we had 240 cases, that's at least what was on a very fine network known as Fox News. I know you love it. But that's what I happened to be watching, and how was the show last night? Did it get good ratings by the way?"
5:06 PM - Mar 6, 2020
David Nakamura @DavidNakamuraDuring remarks at CDC, Trump has praised "a great network called Fox News" and asked a reporter where she works and when she replies "CNN" he says: "I don't watch CNN. That's why I don't recognize you." (He appeared to be mad that she was smiling while he answered her question.)
5:05 PM - Mar 6, 2020
So, a couple things I think. Florida will absolutely be an ass kicking. Georgia, Mississippi will be massive ass kickings. The media is not going to be as easy on Bernie this time around as they were in 2016 with regard to staying in....and neither is the party itself. Hillary was a monster witch woman with a vaginia who was ENTITLED to the presidency, and so the media was fine with keeping Bernie's happy little train going. That's not going to be the case this time. The thing is, though, you can't really push Bernie out of the race because....the party has no sway over him and he has no sway over it. (That's why he's in the mess he's in.) By the end of the month, we could very well end up with Biden having a 200-300 delegate lead. That's 100% over. No one is going to entertain the idea that he has a snowballs chance in hell of coming back from that.
I'd really hate to be a vote counter right about now, though.
Can you provide documentation for this being a know slur? Perhaps it is a translation into English?
Actually it does because that is what comes up when you do google search on on "beyond the pale"- the Irish defintion amd the modern boundary one. The etymology as you say it is not. That is why I asked if is a slur outside USA, because I never hear of it before as a slur. You actual have search "beyond the pale" AND Jewish to bring up "Settlement of Pale".
Then why did you bring it up with no link to it use as a slur? What was the point?
Well then you can understand how some can look at your post and think you are calling Biden anti-Semitic because he uses a phrase that might be anti-Semitic.
And now you are using semantics to weasel out of what you really meant towards Biden. You innocently said it could be seen anti-Semtic phrasing from Biden.....
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Oh, wow. That's awesome and how every state should be.
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