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I have a love-hate relationship with Nancy. This is on the "love" side.
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US PoliEra 2019 |OT8| WHITE HOUSE ADMITS TO QUID PRO QUO WITH UKRAINE
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I have a love-hate relationship with Nancy. This is on the "love" side.
Ya.
Trump will be the first pres ever successfully impeached. His shit show around Ukraine exploded over Syria and it gets worse and worse.
You and me both, sis. I've been stanning for over ten years.
This really is a fantastic photo. The Speaker scolding a whiny child while his cabinet looks down in shame.
Hilarious he would tweet it as an attack.
So US troops are either handing their stuff over to the Russians or blowing their stuff up so Turkey doesn't get them.
You mean removed? That won't happen because Republicans are craven animals.
But he's definitely gon' get impeached.
Oh, now you've done it. Three seconds until some enlightened thinker we all have on ignore anyway comes in here and posts that ~~~white feminism~~~ meme.
Why does Pete's flip on Medicare for All (a fairly vague term that was being used to describe all major health care proposals earlier this year, single payer or otherwise) make him a slimeball and snake, but Warren pivoting from single-payer M4A to a public option in either the general or as president would be a good thing (something that a handful of people here have suggested)? Kamala also supported the Bernie M4A bill, until she launched her own not-single-payer M4A, does that mean she is also shit?
As someone who supports Warren, I find the growing "anyone who isn't Warren is a shit person" bubble here pretty not constructive. I think some of the criticisms Pete has lobbed recently have been stupid, but there are also posts in here booing and hissing for calling out on Warren on being evasive on whether or not M4A would raise taxes -- which is a completely fair thing to bring up! And it doesn't do any good to pretend that that won't also be an issue for if/when Warren is the nominee.
As someone who supports Warren, I find the growing "anyone who isn't Warren is a shit person" bubble here pretty not constructive. I think some of the criticisms Pete has lobbed recently have been stupid, but there are also posts in here booing and hissing for calling out on Warren on being evasive on whether or not M4A would raise taxes -- which is a completely fair thing to bring up! And it doesn't do any good to pretend that that won't also be an issue for if/when Warren is the nominee.
At least they're working on it. It's only October. Best campaign is best campaign.
Man, you clearly know the fucking difference. The guy was saying Medicare for All was the compromise position and that we shouldn't fall into Republican talking points now he's fucking launching attack ads at Bernie and Warren for supporting... that same bill.
Flip flop. who cares. But don't launch attacks at people on positions you held months ago.
I can't help but notice that Trump is the only one without any notes in that picture. Not that I'd ever expect him to give a shit, but this isn't a multimedia presentation, even! He's literally just showing up to argue.
Pretty sure in the presser today Trump mentioned the letter and that he would release it.
I'm sure that's not unusual. He's probably had other people take notes for him his entire adult life, including college.
Any notes he'd take himself would probably be completely incomprehensible.
Warren needs a better answer, but there's also a reason she's talking about costs instead of taxes. She fundamentally rejects the framing about taxes. It's like how when faced with a lump sum or annuity, lottery winners almost always choose lump sum. There's a sticker shock that she's trying to avoid by reframe the way we talk about health care costs.
Does she need a better answer? yes. Will some of her critics never be happy until she says "Medicare for All will raise taxes"? yes. But is she being evasive for not saying that? no, I don't think so.
Does she need a better answer? yes. Will some of her critics never be happy until she says "Medicare for All will raise taxes"? yes. But is she being evasive for not saying that? no, I don't think so.
Is this for real?! His democratic rivals are now fucking conmen like Trump?! Fuck U Ma Man
Last time his aides saw him with notes, the orange was scribbling nicknames for his political enemies.
There's never anything on his desk either. He doesn't do shit but tweet, golf, and watch FOX.
That's the thing, you can't convince people to take a tax increase under any circumstances on this simply because most people are actively shielded from the actual cost of healthcare as they get it through their job as part of their compensation. Companies did this to get around salary caps back in the day, but now it's got the side-effect of making any sort of actual reform way harder than it would otherwise be.
Or eating them to destroy evidence of his Helsinki meeting.
While it would be cool to see, I'd hate for the first woman president to be because the previous president and vice president were removed from office.
yeah, for sure. it's severely warped up the way we discuss healthcare and the frame work of what people will accept for healthcare reform.
It would be perfect imo.
In office because the men committed crimes. Takes a woman to do the job.
The idea that he flip-flopped on healthcare is bizarre and just shows that people don't understand the healthcare debate. He's been supporting a single-payer system since his Harvard days in the early 2000s, he supports it's now, he just doesn't think the Sanders bill is the way to get to M4A/single-payer. Like, this is a February interview, and what he said in the last paragraph is basically verbatim what he said in the 3rd debate last month.
I thought that was because with low-risk investing and basic financial management the lump sum is the more lucrative one. Well, and also the "don't want to die with 10 years of money still left to payout" thing.
He was the pastor who was imprisoned in Turkey.
Re: Taxes and M4A.
So, maybe I'm just a jaded old queen, but I say just lie. Here's the thing, we're not getting M4A. We all know that. There's no reason to let the political positives go while tying an anvil around your neck. I think she is very close to a decent answer on the issue, especially when she said that she would not sign a bill that would make costs for middle class families go up. I'd also just spin it around and say that, yes, she supported Sander's bill, but she is the one running for President. She can also make a bullshit statement about not accepting a tax hike on middle class families, but then never defining what middle class is. There are literally 2 groups of people who want her on record saying it'll raise taxes, and none of them are important to her primary or general election chances.
I'd also like to point out the INSANE double standard we have when Donald Trump ran on "Mexico is gonna pay for it" and literally no one ever pushed back against that absurdity. But we're supposed to fund everything with sound bites and gotcha shit? Fuck that. Just lie. "Under a Warren administration, we will work towards implementing Medicare for All. I will not sign into law, though, any bill that will raise costs on hard working middle class families. It's time we make the largest corporations and the wealthy pay their fair share, and break the grip of out of control healthcare costs on the average American family. That's my promise." Boom. Next question.
So, maybe I'm just a jaded old queen, but I say just lie. Here's the thing, we're not getting M4A. We all know that. There's no reason to let the political positives go while tying an anvil around your neck. I think she is very close to a decent answer on the issue, especially when she said that she would not sign a bill that would make costs for middle class families go up. I'd also just spin it around and say that, yes, she supported Sander's bill, but she is the one running for President. She can also make a bullshit statement about not accepting a tax hike on middle class families, but then never defining what middle class is. There are literally 2 groups of people who want her on record saying it'll raise taxes, and none of them are important to her primary or general election chances.
I'd also like to point out the INSANE double standard we have when Donald Trump ran on "Mexico is gonna pay for it" and literally no one ever pushed back against that absurdity. But we're supposed to fund everything with sound bites and gotcha shit? Fuck that. Just lie. "Under a Warren administration, we will work towards implementing Medicare for All. I will not sign into law, though, any bill that will raise costs on hard working middle class families. It's time we make the largest corporations and the wealthy pay their fair share, and break the grip of out of control healthcare costs on the average American family. That's my promise." Boom. Next question.
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