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US PoliEra 2019 |OT8| WHITE HOUSE ADMITS TO QUID PRO QUO WITH UKRAINE
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Warren doesnt even have a plan for Healthcare. The very tweet I quoted is regarding big money in the political system. Warren wants to allow big money pouring into the DNC if shes nominated. Warren agrees with Trump's military budget, nominated multiple trump cabinet picks, supports Israel over Palestine, etc.
So AOC endorsing Warren at this point would just be an unprincipled act, that she would absolutely deserve ire.
yeah I dont know what that means
It is kind of funny that 3 years ago, Warren was seen as a progressive darling because she implied that Sanders lost the election due to rigging. Now she's Shillabeth cause she's doing better at winning people better than Bernie.
Also, I have a feeling that if Bernie wins the election, his supporters will totally turn on him when he doesn't make the sweeping changes he promised in 8 seconds when he's sworn in.
Also, I have a feeling that if Bernie wins the election, his supporters will totally turn on him when he doesn't make the sweeping changes he promised in 8 seconds when he's sworn in.
honestly I think it may be best if she doesn't if the nom is warren. I dont really think she has much pull with diehard Bernie stans but she makes it too easy too polarize warren even further. This is anecdotal but I have a work bud who I had considered very much on the same page as me but he said warren is a gun to the head candidate line Hillary was. I also think there's a boomer contingent that is just straight up weird about electing a woman even if they are pretty much lifelong dems. We may only be talking about like 5% of our base but that actually does matter. I think warren can pull moderate dems who perhaps do watch Fox News here and there, and id say it's smarter for AOC to just stay away from it. Omar here in MN kind of has the same effect. She will easily win her seat but honestly I don't want her to endorse anyone here either.
like basically there are dumb, racist, misogynistic people out there but there is a significant enough percentage of them out there who will and do vote for us if you're somewhat careful about what buttons you don't push. It does suck but at the same time I'd rather not lose states in the Midwest we cannot afford to if we can help. Like there is an actual balancing act in play that we can shit on all we want but that doesn't mean it isn't there.
Like that's kind of what politics is. You do have to cater a bit. They are the folks that you cater to on the campaign trail and then forget about them with policy. They'll forget about the policy within 2 years too because they aren't really paying attention and they actually are the types to maybe change their minds on things over time.
Remember, the only barometer of "is person a progressive" is if they blindly support Bernie Sanders. Everyone else is either a centrist, a moderate, establishment, neoliberal, or all of the above.
Also isn't he the Mayor of South Bend?
The corporate money must be going to his head.
I don't see AOC helping the candidate in any states that we need to win. she doesn't even seem popular among POC in polling either. It's probably best she stays home lol.
She will probably do events on her own though for congressional races.
She will probably do events on her own though for congressional races.
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You know, I saw that, and then I saw the BBC, and I completely forgot about the NYT Opinion placement.
Lord, that's such a dumb picture.
So, what's the timer on Rudy being thrown under the bus.
"No, no, I didn't know that Rudy was saying that the aid was being held up for the Biden stuff! Rudy went rogue. Terrible lawyer. I just wanted Biden investigated! Didn't hold back nothin'! I even told Sondland no quid quo pros"
And this was the guy the ultimately decided they wanted to testify because he's Trump-friendly and would counterbalance some of the non-Trumpist . It has to be because Trump's legal team isn't confident in their ability to stonewall the impeachment inquiry for being unfair due to lack of vote because this is not a great look.
No, but whoever wins will be a million years old, and they'll take one look at an AOC Twitch stream w/ a bone rattling Beto bass solo and they'll immediately step aside.
Bernie's first two years would be a lot like Obama's 2010-2012 i think
I, too, think that I can make things happen simply by wanting them too badly enough.
"just because we let them that doesn't mean we'd KNOW they'd do it!"
The superdelegates don't vote until the convention!
California is worth 40 bajilliony delegates!
Wait until : insert whatever state here :
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youre braver than me g. i just come here to do oppo research
1/2 Hour News Hour: Turning Point USA Edition
Totally throwing Rudy under the bus at this point
Turkey has invaded Syria, and Syrian government forces are moving to confront the Turkish troops. This is an act of war, but in 2019, it's yet another day. Weird times.
To me it feels like someone else is driving White House policy at the moment. Either they tranq'ed the idiot and locked him in basement, or they're openly revolting.
Or they made it abundantly clear that he had to change or risk removal. That will only last until he decides to call their bluff, though.
These sentiments do not apply to the vast majority of Bernie Supporters.
Of all the things Bernie has done that I find unforgivable, making us talk about Tulsi, The Honorable Nina Turner, Susan Sarandon, Devine, and Weaver is the absolute worst. .
It's been at that point the whole time. Guy had near 100% name rec and wasn't going anywhere and had the same message he always had. There was nowhere for him to go.
The vast majority of Bernie Sanders supporters aren't the ones who are online talking about Sanders.
Is it fair then to pretend or act like his toxic fans represent the entirety or the majority of his base?
When you have polling that shows that over 75% of Bernie supporters would be happy to vote for Warren, is it fair to say stuff like "for Bernie supporters you can only be progressive if you hate the DNC"? Is it not an enormous generalization?
Ive found some pretty toxic Kamala fans but I wouldnt act like her base is just a bunch of toxic fools because...it doesnt seem like an appropiate qualifier.
Warren---25%
Biden-----24%
Bernie----22%
Any Dem/Trump is at 49/32 so NH looks like it'll be easy enough to hold onto.
AOC had terrific political instincts. She definitely wouldn't endorse a flailing, toxic candidate such as Sanders or Buttigieg.
It's a tiny minority of hyper engaged people who are calling Warren a neoliberal shill.
You (confirm) what you want to (confirm). I think its a disservice to generalize and label folks like that. It only serves to foment anger between bases.
More like internal polls are showing even his fans don't like the slaughter of allies and ISIS escaping. It's why he's been spinning so hard since he made this fucked up decision and even tried blaming the Kurds for releasing ISIS. And they probably did tranq him because you know he was overridden for once. He's probably going to lash out about it soon because narcissists don't take being reprimanded well.
See also his sycophants (Lindsey) actually thanking him for pouring a bucket of water on the house fire he started himself.
Or the behavior of the campaign that reinforces the worst behavior of SOME of their supporters.
Again, I gotta point out....it's always this one campaign that has questionable hires, that constantly have to come out and tell their supporters to stop...it's ALWAYS them. So....at a certain point, the narrative writes itself.
Oh, that's really gross. Ugh.
Anyway, I was on Kos, and someone had an article about the military approval of Trump. There's a yearly approval poll Military Times does. This is the trend, and the most recent one is from last year. This years should be coming out pretty soon:
That's hellish for a Republican.
I've concluded that I need to stop trolling Era centrists that claim to be "progressive" and just state the facts from not on lol
Okie dokie
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Just this week, someone from Team Warren who is an official surrogate was found to have posted some pretty despicable things and outright lies.
It's not posted here and I wouldn't have brought it up because I like Warren. This stuff is not exclusive to any candidate.
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