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Something about that recent polling around Scotland seems off to me. It seems to suggest that the Tories are on track to only lose one seat, which just didn't sit with what I've seen in the few constituencies I've been in during recent weeks - a complete lack of any ground game and very weak messenging.
I live in one of THE biggest Tory target seats and there just seems to be nothing from them at the moment compared to the SNP.
Might be wrong, though.
I live in one of THE biggest Tory target seats and there just seems to be nothing from them at the moment compared to the SNP.
Might be wrong, though.
They don't need to campaign here, there's nothing to say other than "vote for us to stop indyref2". Scotland is still incredibly divided on independence and it's the single voter issue that will swing Unionists to support the Tory vote in large numbers.
The days of the Unionist vote being split between Labour/Conservative are over in Scotland. We have a sizeable number of Labour voters who will vote Conservative in 2019 like they did in 2017.
All the SNP have to hope for is stay at home SNP voters from 2017 come out. Some got complacent last time around.
For those who commute on the train to London and Norwich, the sheer number of 'Vote Labour' signs up onto the windows of the houses or outside in the garden along the railway line gives me reasons to be cheerful.
And yet these (new) polls makes me feel so disheartened...
Incredible how folks whom are 80+ years old make more effort to go out and vote, no matter the weather or how far away the poll station is, than the majority of young people do. It's both extraordinary and absolutely maddening.
And yet these (new) polls makes me feel so disheartened...
Incredible how folks whom are 80+ years old make more effort to go out and vote, no matter the weather or how far away the poll station is, than the majority of young people do. It's both extraordinary and absolutely maddening.
Journalists on twitter are making a stink about it not being yet available to them, so no it's not online yet
As I type the above:
The people hiding behind "but Corbyn" while they indirectly support Johnson and hard Brexit are disgusting. Am sick of this country
They'll blame ethnic minorities, foreign people, and the EU before having some self reflection about this.
They'll blame ethnic minorities, foreign people, and the EU before having some self reflection about this.
Ctrl+F "get brexit done" ... 23 results. Not sure if I expected more or not.
Also there's a pretty funny low-res image of Boris on a bike in there, I guess it had to be done.
Yeah, no doubt they will.
Anyway more proof people are shit, read the replies at your own peril.
Useless fuckers can't even launch a manifesto correctly, let alone run the country.
surely also a significant factor that 38% of scottish voters voted leave and they only have one party representing them on this issue
This entire country deserves to burn if(when) the Tories win.
I hate this world.
Making sure the people will get their daily dose of tory propaganda
what a fucking stitch up
a lot of people say the alternate universe where ed miliband won is great because of no eu referendum, but just imagine how good it would be if we'd been able to get leveson 2.0
lol my seat becoming a major lib dem target for the first time has been a disaster for my letterbox
Kind of hard for me to care at this point. People deserve to get what they vote for, my life will change very little regardless.
It's because
1) they're retired so they have nothing else going on
2) they're more likely to use postal votes than younger people are.
Yes, that too, but more Scottish people oppose independence than those who voted Leave. As I said, there will be Labour remainers voting Tory in Scotland to try and stop the SNP.
Plenty of people will get what they didn't vote for. Doesn't mean you shouldn't care about horrible things that will happen to them.
My life along with countless others are going to worse almost certainly because of these Tories and the Gammons that constantly vote them in.
Still...if this is the result we're getting then it's going to be cathartic watching these cunts lives get worse. It's the only thing I can look forward to, I wish I could say otherwise.
Not so sure on that. Considering how much BoJo is disliked up here, it's hard to see even unionists voting for a BoJo led Tory party.
BoJo getting in will probably put up indy ref polls by a huge amount because fuck BoJo.
I'm not sure I even want to know. The disabled already get fucked enough as it is :( (and of course many of them also cross over into the poor category so that's double fucked)
Yep I've had about the same number of lib dem ones, one Tory one, and one from our independent MP in fetching pink
Not many, I don't think. Only the militants, the SNP wouldn't have been in govt since 07 without natural labour voters.
Generally speaking, Scotland hates Boris, but the threat of another independence referendum overrules absolutely everything. People up here would sell their children to avoid indyref2.
It is seen as the most important single issue vote, that important Unionists of all flavours will get together to tactically vote no matter who they are voting for.
The Leave Scottish base plus the Unionist voting block are going to make it difficult for the SNP. The south of Scotland is a wasteland. Might as well be England.
I guess we'll see if BoJo gets in.
That said, hopefully the SNP gets some more seats from the Tories.
Tories are going to "Get Brexit Done"
Like the Tories have gotten Brexit "done" in 2017, 2018, and 2019 LMAO!
Like the Tories have gotten Brexit "done" in 2017, 2018, and 2019 LMAO!
Aye I'm the same. My mum is disabled and has a progressive illness so I need to know but kinda don't want to.
Yeah, SNP are going to struggle, people just won't vote for them because Independence is back at the forefront again. I don't even think a youth turnout guarantees it to any degree were it matters either. If they don't vote Tory, they'll vote Lib Dems, see Swinson's constituency etc. and they'll either get seats or they'll let the Tories in because they can't bare to vote for the SNP. Boris doesn't come into it.
On the one hand I kinda think that its not like the press could get any more shameless and partisan, but I guess things can always get worse.
They're going to go hard on gerrymandering and voter suppression in the next term too. Just following the example set by republicans in the USA
I'd bet my house on them increasing their seats. Lib Dems getting in the Highlands and Islands is just normal service being resumed.
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Relax. Privatisation of the NHS won't happen. Just scare tactics from the Labour Party.
International companies leaving the U.K. is probably more likely to happen if Corbyn taxes them hand over fist, which his plans intend on doing. Brexit doesn't help in the short term, but it's been voted on and we need to respect the result of the first referendum, so its debate is a moot point at this time.
As for the Sterling devaluation, a Corbyn majority is going to tank it a lot further than any Brexit, save a very hard one. Corbyn's policies got the financial market shook. Only thing helping is the odds of a Corbyn majority are so low (at this stage), but the further it goes up, the more market volatility you'll see.
Lmao, it's already happening under the last decade of Tories. At best you can say they aren't trying to directly replace it with private care and just want to shut it down wherever possible, like that's any better.
The rest of your post is as equally absurd.
They'll increase their seats but we aren't reducing the Tory seats to 1 like it should be.
Too many people in this country might as well live in England as it doesn't seem to matter what Tory UK Government is put in front of them, they're terrified at the idea Scotland ever gets to a point where enough is enough.
Good God I hope you're making enough money to justify your Tory support.
I guess they might get Ruth's seat but Ref2 is going to sink them to more or less the same as 2017. I really hope not, but there doesn't seem to be the keenest for Ref2 unless people have suddenly awakened to the idea. I guess in the end it will be a good view of how people feel.
Lot of retweets of the Tory manifesto ad by people with a lot of numbers in their usernames. Shock.
I do think the same. But I'm baffled at the state of some of the unionist voters in Scotland. Is it boomers trying to fuck over all other generations below them? I mean an indie scotland is almost a forgone conclusion at this point. It's a matter of when, not if.
The bojo factor plays into the tories likely losing seats. The snp do have a perfect foil in bojo to paint as a giant target for voters.
As audioboxer said, if the Scots vote in the Tories again, they can burn with the rest of us. They are key in denying the tory majority outcome.
It is already happening right now.
The first referendum on Brexit gave Remain as a result. The rerun in 2016 gave Leave if you care about respecting the first referendum.
Two things: the deal on the table is a very hard Brexit, and it already tanked enormous since the referendum.
I'm not seeing it as a sort of mass group that really matters tbh. A tiny amount of old right wing voters even vote SNP because they want independence, the types that were for Indy in the 70s.
I was in the Labour party for a decade and still know people in it, they'd rather another referendum than have more tories. I know I would when I was a unionist.
Boomers, the wealthy and Rangers fans. The Rangers youth are like a set of attack dogs when it comes to Unionism. That and being knee-deep in sectarianism.
Scotland has a lot of classism issues and as usual those with money rise to the top of voting Conservative. The farmers would rather shag their sheep than vote SNP.
Anyone that wears a tweed jacket in Scotland also votes Tory.
So there's quite a few tbh, they just failed to win seats for ages due to Thatcher and Labour splitting the Unionist vote in Scotland. As Labour have died here the Tories are beginning to clean sweep everyone who won't vote SNP.
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