Willi Orban, one of the Hungary NT's best players, said:
Seems like a very diplomatic way to state his support. Nice.
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UEFA blocks rainbow stadium as a sign for tolerance during EURO match GER - HUN
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Light it up anyway. Fuck them.
Then give out rainbow flags to literally everyone in the stadium. Let them try and avoid showing that on TV.
I'd really like it if every other stadium being used just went "fuck it" at this point and lit up. Webley's done it with the arch in the past. What are UEFA going to do? Run to hold everything in Hungary? Good fucking luck.
Then give out rainbow flags to literally everyone in the stadium. Let them try and avoid showing that on TV.
I'd really like it if every other stadium being used just went "fuck it" at this point and lit up. Webley's done it with the arch in the past. What are UEFA going to do? Run to hold everything in Hungary? Good fucking luck.
Munich's mayor just held a short speech (linked below, sorry it's in german) about the whole thing
key points:
- the city stands behind the LGBTIQ* community
- calls the decisions of the UEFA shameful and also the inaction of the DFB (german soccer association) disappointing
- pride flags are raised at the city hall (this is pretty normal but iirc the city usually does it closer to Christopher Street day)
- the wind turbine right next to the alliance stadium will be illuminated in pride colors
- olympic tower will also be illuminated in pride colors
for some context the wind turbine is a landmark that sits right next to the stadium
key points:
- the city stands behind the LGBTIQ* community
- calls the decisions of the UEFA shameful and also the inaction of the DFB (german soccer association) disappointing
- pride flags are raised at the city hall (this is pretty normal but iirc the city usually does it closer to Christopher Street day)
- the wind turbine right next to the alliance stadium will be illuminated in pride colors
- olympic tower will also be illuminated in pride colors
for some context the wind turbine is a landmark that sits right next to the stadium
Maybe exclude Munich from the rest of the tournament (they already threatened London), fines or even consequences for the Euro in Germany in 2024.
Either way this is pathetic from UEFA.
Oh please they won't do shit. Fine them whatever, that won't hurt. I wanna see the UEFA threatening one of the biggest sports associations (DFB) lol.
I don't believe there's ever been a gay male professional footballer that is also actively playing. Statistically however there will more than likely be a few gay/bi players in the tournament.
They've been OK with the knee at a time less teams are doing it and while pushing a very sanitized and "non-political" interpretation of what it means. A nonsensical interpretation, to be sure.
If there's one good thing to note in this whole mess, it's that no public figure in Germany dares to support that decision (except our own FA of course because lol).
All but one political party harshly criticise this decision ("embarrassing", "shameful", "outdated", "folding before autocrats") and the other one (far-right AfD) prefers to say nothing after one of them called Neuer's captain armband a "fag armband" and he later had to delete that Facebook post. Even the Conservatives use this case to attack the AfD for exactly that ("it would've been a great sign against completely shameful and shocking statements from AfD members").
I don't think this would've been the same, say, 15 years ago.
All but one political party harshly criticise this decision ("embarrassing", "shameful", "outdated", "folding before autocrats") and the other one (far-right AfD) prefers to say nothing after one of them called Neuer's captain armband a "fag armband" and he later had to delete that Facebook post. Even the Conservatives use this case to attack the AfD for exactly that ("it would've been a great sign against completely shameful and shocking statements from AfD members").
I don't think this would've been the same, say, 15 years ago.
UEFA (and FIFA) are complicit in the bigotry that's rampant throughout the sport. Their performative bullshit, when it's convenient, is not fooling anyone.
As long as advertisers are happy nothing will change.
Munich's mayor just held a short speech (linked below, sorry it's in german) about the whole thing
key points:
- the city stands behind the LGBTIQ* community
- calls the decisions of the UEFA shameful and also the inaction of the DFB (german soccer association) disappointing
- pride flags are raised at the city hall (this is pretty normal but iirc the city usually does it closer to Christopher Street day)
- the wind turbine right next to the alliance stadium will be illuminated in pride colors
- olympic tower will also be illuminated in pride colors
for some context the wind turbine is a landmark that sits right next to the stadium
That is pretty awesome. I mean, it's embarassing for UEFA as well as DFB (who were defending the decision by UEFA), but it's great to see all the uproar it has caused, as Irminsul has mentioned.
The argument is that showing support for the LGBTQ community shouldn't be a political statement. Just like the whole No Racism movement shouldn't be.
Sure, the Mayor did say it was in opposition to Hungary passing the anti-LGBTQ law, but that shouldn't be a controversial thing. If Hungary passes a racist law are we suppose to stop fighting against racism at soccer games too?
In the end it's about money and self-interest, don't be tricked thinking UEFA is trying to be a pacifier or anything like that.
I got you.. I just wrote the reason why UEFA how it decided.. support for the LGBTQ community and the No Racism movement are statements that are pretty much general and every country should be trying to improve in these, it's all seats with the Fair Game and Fair Play statements .. but this istance with the stadium is basically one county going against another one and it's mostly used by a politician - major of the city - for I thing (I'm pretty cynical right now) for his own political career and view.. that's why it is so political.. why wasn't the stadium previously used as a LGBTQ support opportunity in previous matches? After the match is over, I want to see them support the community in later events the same way.. or they forget about it after the match? I'm curious if the German team after this tournament is going to speak out against the next WC in Qatar, when they are so in support of equality and human rights.. or is this just a show off before the most important match in the group and to fuck with the opposite players heads and morale .. let's see
And of course, UEFA isn't the good guy or something like that in this situation (or even in the ESL situation in the past months, they just were the lesser evil).. we all know they are only after the money.. the same as the whole FIFA
How is the situation right now in terms of law for our queer peers? I know that in terms of society Germany has progressed a lot but I don't remember if they have been able to push for legal changes?
https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussba...ungarn-a-8fe1ee27-7f51-4611-8f6b-af928df73e33
I don't have an english source for that sorry.
Apparently the munich police is expecting "problematic" hungarian fans, and there weill be a demonstration from the LGBTQI+ community tomorrow.
Hope it won't happen. The problematic fans that is, not the demonstration.
I don't have an english source for that sorry.
Apparently the munich police is expecting "problematic" hungarian fans, and there weill be a demonstration from the LGBTQI+ community tomorrow.
Hope it won't happen. The problematic fans that is, not the demonstration.
Allianz Arena is sadly rather on the outskirts of Munich, the effect would not be seen that well I think. There is a bunch of nothing surrounding the immediate area around it.
Edit:
Read about the wind turbine being illuminated just now. Better than nothing I guess.
Haha, that's true. I've passed the building a few times going to the city. There's a few parking garages though? Maybe those could be lit up. :D
Oh, but them not allowing it was not political at all, huh?
TO cater towards an dictator and theirs sponsors, that follow the rules of
countries like China, Quatar and Russia, right? Fuck off UEFA
The UEFA is truly a pathetic organisation. Although I really wanna have the stuff that the marketing department had to come up with this utterly ridiculous statement.
Another example of how hollow a gesture it is when institutions and companies push equality when it suits them.
Come on Munich tech team, just fucking do it, fuck UEFA.
How do "The rainbow is not a political symbol" and "lighting up the stadium in rainbow color is political" go together?
It is a contradiction.
Just say that you don't want to offend your authoritarian sponsors and be open about the fact that money trumps any and all moral concerns for you.
Honesty would be more respectable than this shit.
During the game, yes.
But ARD, BBC and all the stations that make coverage of the tournamant, have their own crews and can make their own shots around the game
Just like Bioshock and The Division, nothing political here, no, no, no. Just fun family friendly entertainment.
If you don't think about it too much, it makes sense:
The symbol itself is not political.
Munich mayor explained he wanted to use the symbol for political reasons.
Therefore the symbol itself is not political, lighting up the stadium with the context of the mayor's declaration is political.
Now if you look even a tiny, tiny little bit into why the mayor said it was political, you'd see the argument is garbage, but on surface the argument somewhat makes sense.
And the new Far Cry is absolutely apolitical as well. Cuba? Never heard of her.
Forgive the ignorance here, but this just looks like "let's not piss off the Nazi prick because we like money."
Am I wrong?
Am I wrong?
Example #92783627 that UEFA are absolute scumbags
Hungary fans being racist towards French players = fine
Germany having their stadium in rainbow colours = not fine
Hungary fans being racist towards French players = fine
Germany having their stadium in rainbow colours = not fine