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Pirateluigi

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Oct 27, 2017
6,871
Are many people TOO obsessive about sex? Yes, I think so.

Is repressing one's sexuality dangerous and/or harmful? Yes, I think so.

I believe we shouldn't repress our sexuality, but also shouldn't obsess over it as though it's the end all / be all.

I like this answer. Speaking as an American, we're still an incredibly repressed society when it comes to sex and sexuality. I do believe that if we were open and freer with sex that it would simultaneously become much less of a big deal. It's just another thing. Some people are into it and some aren't. We don't need to elevate it to some sort of holy act.
 

HStallion

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
62,262
I do wonder what humanity would be like if our technology got so good we could just forgo pregnancy the natural way and incubate children in some kind of artificial womb. Would it make people more open to sex as something to be done simply for enjoyment without the biological drive behind it or would sex start to fall off as a major desire for the species. I'm talking super long term here, not over night or even in 50 years.
 

RocketKiss

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
4,691
The immediate access to porn anytime, anywhere is probably not doing good things to the human brain.

the human brain definitely was not evolved to handle hentai
 

Dice

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,366
Canada
Not just humans do this tho, fuck for pleasure. But it's the reason why it's hardwired.

I'm aware other creatures fuck for pleasure. It's also largely a different ballgame for animals.
I'm talking about humans specifically who are likely doing it for pleasure > procreation.

But also: We're not talking about animals --- we're talking about people, and my beef with the "biology" angle being so dominating.

The immediate access to porn anytime, anywhere is probably not doing good things to the human brain.

I love sex and would love to try this...but the more and more VR becomes an avenue for fantasy and "immersive play" leaves me kinda worried about this.
We're hardly there yet, but I am curious if the effects of sex and violence while rigged up might have a more...pronounced/detrimental effect.
I got nothing to say it will or won't... just throwing thoughts out to the universe.
 

Deleted member 52442

User requested account closure
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Jan 24, 2019
10,774
I would like for it to be this, but I don't think this is the case. I feel like the meme about the giant lady is more along the lines of a joke. The vibe I get is more "Haha, isn't it hilarious how horny we are over this woman who is supposed to be a creepy monster trying to kill us, lawl" than actual attraction to the giant lady.

This could probably be the case for some, I guess the question then is whether or not the reaction to the big lady will lead to favorable changes and reactions down the line

Username does not disappoint.


lol
 

echoshifting

very salt heavy
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
14,756
The Negative Zone
The thrust (sorry) of this thread kind of bothers me. I think telling people they are "too sexual" or implying they are obsessed with sex because they spend "too much" time thinking about or engaging in sexual activity is harmful. Especially to women and sexual minorities, frankly.
 

HelloItsPulse

Member
Dec 14, 2017
2,067
The issue I have with this is that you seem to believe that this is an issue solely for women. If you go on DeviantArt, you're going to find a lot of sexualized images of women, yes, but you're also going to find the same for men. Along with that, a lot of the people drawing this stuff in the first place are women.

So that leads me into the "protection of women and sexual minorities". Exploitation has no place in the world, I agree, but you can't just cover everything sexual regarding women as "exploitation". There are women getting into porn, onlyfans, lewd cosplay, etc every day of their own free will. Should they be protected from themselves because they are doing something they want to do?

Sexuality isn't a male dominated thing, women are just as sexual as men. When you try to suppress sexuality, you're not hurting the people you are against, they are going to do whatever they were going to do anyway, you're only hurting the people you think you're protecting.

Protect children, because they are the ones that can't protect themselves.
 

Camwi

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
6,375
Sex is fucking awesome. Literally one of the greatest feelings in existence, and an incredible and important way to bond with someone.

Also, I'd love to know your argument against prostitution. Why should two consenting adults not be allowed to exchange money for a physical activity?
 

Eidan

Avenger
Oct 30, 2017
8,577
The "That's a Penis" meme convinced me way too many dudes have dick on the brain.
 

III-V

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,827
Sex is good, exploitation is bad. I think we can have a positive sex culture without having exploitation, or should I say viewing someone sexually is not an exploitation in itself.
 

Dice

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,366
Canada
The thrust (sorry) of this thread kind of bothers me. I think telling people they are "too sexual" or implying they are obsessed with sex because they spend "too much" time thinking about or engaging in sexual activity is harmful.

Well, moderation right?? To be obsessed with sexual thought 8 days a week sounds as severe as someone obsessed with food (this is a terrible example, I know).

I think the post after yours kinda examines the more social ramifications of being "too obsessed".

Protect children, because they are the ones that can't protect themselves.

1000%. I'd never kinkshame anything unless it even remotely involves this.

But also, like many things, there shouldn't be an "all or nothing" attitude about sex. Many people are hurt because of people's "sexual obsessions". A healthy sexual life (with a partner you understand in, or play safely with) is so damn important. But someone with a poor/traumatizing sexual experience can be harmed by it for decades.
 

Almagest

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,447
Spain
We are.

No matter what society or culture we live in living beings will always follow two imperatives, survival and reproduction. Our modern obsession with sex comes from the overstimulation of sexual imagery and easy access to sexual content that technology produces, which we created in the first place because we are horny. It's ironic but it's what we are.
 

Ferrio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,076
Probably but cats still got barbs on their dicks and bed bugs violently stab their own version of a dick into the bodies of the female so it's not always fun and pleasurable.

That would hinge on those creatures interpreting those actions as pain, which doesn't have to be the case.
 

MDSVeritas

Gameplay Programmer, Sony Santa Monica
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
1,026
I do wonder what humanity would be like if our technology got so good we could just forgo pregnancy the natural way and incubate children in some kind of artificial womb. Would it make people more open to sex as something to be done simply for enjoyment without the biological drive behind it or would sex start to fall off as a major desire for the species. I'm talking super long term here, not over night or even in 50 years.
I think we would still see it be as strong a presence as now. Like, the reason we see it so largely in culture right now doesn't seem to be because people want to have children, it's because our minds and bodies often still respond to sex really strongly, things like hormones are still greatly in play. I think the hypothetical you're talking about would really only be a continuation of the trend we're already seeing: sex being decoupled from making children and being seen as it's own still-desirable and sought-after thing.
 

Zombine

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Oct 25, 2017
13,231
Sex is the foundation of everything we have done as a species. It's actually very disturbing to think about because that is what it all boils down to.
 

Dice

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Oct 25, 2017
22,366
Canada
Sex is the foundation of everything we have done as a species. It's actually very disturbing to think about because that is what it all boils down to.
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Well that's sad and shockingly reductive. I have a pretty great time at parties or going out places, or just walking, gardening, or drawing. I don't need to be fucked to feel fulfilled. I enjoy a lot of things (and you can too!).

I think life SEEMS like it puts this much clout on it. But there's really much more to life. 🤨 It doesn't exist in a vacuum.
 

echoshifting

very salt heavy
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
14,756
The Negative Zone
Well, moderation right?? To be obsessed with sexual thought 8 days a week sounds as severe as someone obsessed with food (this is a terrible example, I know).

I think the post after yours kinda examines the more social ramifications of being "too obsessed".

I don't agree with establishing an extreme amount of time that one engages in sex/sexual thoughts or fantasies to justify, effectively, shaming people. Especially one that is not real lol. And yes that is a terrible example! There are immediate health ramifications to unhealthy relationships with food. Sex, approached with the right amount of caution and self-awareness, is not going to cause you physical harm.

If we're talking about hypersexuality/sex addiction, you have to get into how much sex interferes with a person's daily life. If having sexual thoughts or engaging in sex "eight days a week" is not causing problems in a person's life, I don't see why anyone else should have a problem with it either.
 

sphagnum

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,058
No. We aren't open enough. People need to be able to use their brains about when it's appropriate and what ways might be inappropriate, but we shouldn't be repressive.
 

Zombine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,231
Well that's sad for you and shockingly reductive. I have a pretty great time at parties or going out places, or just walking, gardening, or drawing. I don't need to be fucked to feel fulfilled. I enjoy a lot of things (and you can too!).

Tf I never said that's what I do. I like to mind my own business and relax. I'm Demi too so yeah 😂

What I'm saying is that at it's core, reproduction is the foundation of this species and a lot of what we do is just to look like strong mates and continue our lineage. We are but animals.
 

eraFROMAN

One Winged Slayer
Member
Mar 12, 2019
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No more obsessed with sex than we are with money and pleasure, all of which lead to exploitation of people if left unchecked. We need to check the people that have "power" and control, and protect those that don't, rather than shaming the inherent desire for these things.

Sex rules, thinking about it often is sometimes a person's motivator and comfort.
 

Spinluck

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
28,486
Chicago
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Well that's sad and shockingly reductive. I have a pretty great time at parties or going out places, or just walking, gardening, or drawing. I don't need to be fucked to feel fulfilled. I enjoy a lot of things (and you can too!).

I think life SEEMS like it puts this much clout on it. But there's really much more to life. 🤨 It doesn't exist in a vacuum.

A lot of fucking took place for us to be here today is probably what that poster meant.

They aren't saying all there is to life is sex but sex is essential to life and believe it or not is a massive motivator for our species.
 

Arkanim94

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,126
What I find funny is how western cultures are usually both revulsed by sexuality but place great importance on how much you "do it".
 

Hu3

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,587
Dice I feel like you are diminishing sex to just fucking. The human part of it the interaction with another person the trust in another person. Sex has many positive sides to it physical and mental.
 

MoonPhase

Banned
Feb 2, 2021
58
Europe
A good example is the vast majority of music video clips where the female singers are most often than not dressed in a ultra revealing way and dancing in a provocative way....and that to me is insulting. I mean, is your music that bad that you feel the need to convince me with cleavage and tight-ass pants? I miss when ugly people were allowed to make music...there were great melodies back then but that's another topic so I'm sorry.
this is truly a shame. I miss the 80s so much, where the video clips were mostly about having fun and the quality of music..

also I always find it amusing when people act like having sex is like breathing. this will never not be funny to me :D
 
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Spinluck

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Oct 26, 2017
28,486
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Sex is good, exploitation is bad. I think we can have a positive sex culture without having exploitation, or should I say viewing someone sexually is not an exploitation in itself.

Yeah, this is where I am at.

Sex is one of the greatest pleasures you can experience in life and physically speaking it might be us at our most vulnerable/intimate.

But it is also one of the most self-destructive/destructive vices a person can have.

And that part of our nature is prayed upon and relentlessly exploited everywhere.
 

Ferrio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,076
this is truly a shame. I miss the 80s so much, where the video clips were mostly about having fun and the quality of music..

This must be some bizarro 80s I missed. I remember it being a cocaine filled capitalistic orgy.

Just by chance, how old where you back in this fun and innocent times?
 

Kurtikeya

One Winged Slayer
Member
Dec 2, 2017
4,449
I guess? Dirty jokes, "That's what she said" memes, "That's a penis" memes, and stanning Hot Ryu/Lady Dimitrescu/whoever else the Internet was unexpectedly horny for through the years are real. But we're embodied beings, and sex is a bodily pleasure. Like eating or sports. So long as you're enjoying it in a responsible way then it shouldn't be a problem. Besides, I doubt the people who are horny for Lady Dimitrescu actually have the tissues out so much as they're expressing their attraction towards her in the most Internet way.

The actual issues about it revolve around porn addiction, sexual exploitation, unsafe sex, and respecting boundaries.
 

Dice

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,366
Canada
Hentai too strong. Please nerf

....

Just kidding! Hentai needs a buff

I think hentai is fantastic (lol sorry, weird way to start). It's often very creative (for better or worse), can appeal to a whole bunch of kinks IRL Porn can't make happen, and you honestly see a lot of talented artists in this sorta genre of work. ...But the amount of comics that focus on rape (and other dubious kniks) has alarmed me more than once. o_O
I really don't know how/where to draw a line there besides the one in my head.

Dice I feel like you are diminishing sex to just fucking. The human part of it the interaction with another person the trust in another person. Sex has many positive sides to it physical and mental.

Probably. I mean, you're telling this to a kinda sterotypical girly-girl for the softer genres --- I love a good romance. ♥
Of course there's an emotional aspect to it, but I really don't think that's what's happening when we talk about media and video games. I often see its inclusion in media for more perverse reasons and don't think video games deserve much of the benefit of the doubt. Some parts of it have gotten better, but I find the way we talk about sex much too black-and-white in general (like saying "it's just biology", or for how long nuclear-styled families were all that were ever seen in TV shows or whatever).

I diminish it because media often diminishes the female form to just that --- to girls with long legs and short skirts, to personalities of characters made to be loving to the player, and because the internet has made it incredibly easy to seek even hardcore fetishes which can have some rotten implicated into the real world. I think sex through media is largely perceived through straight men's views of it.

Of course sex has a love component. But I don't primarily think "love" with "too obsessed". Sexual health really swings many ways.

This topic is sorta hitting a FEW areas of discussion though. Are we talking biology, or games, or media, or how we socialize or how we enjoy ourselves privately or overtly? This is a BIG topic and I don't think quick cut-and-dry answers are satisfying enough for something that effects billions of people in different ways.
 
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Sumio Mondo

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Oct 25, 2017
9,937
United Kingdom
Going by this (7.8 Billion+ and counting):

www.worldometers.info

World Population Clock: 8.1 Billion People (LIVE, 2024) - Worldometer

How many people are there in the world? World population has reached 8 billion on November 15, 2022 according to the United Nations. World population live counter with data sheets, graphs, maps, and census data regarding the current, historical, and future world population figures, estimates...

Yeah, we probably are. We'll continue to multiply until the aliens wipe us all out.
 

julia crawford

Took the red AND the blue pills
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Oct 27, 2017
35,298
I think the Resi thing isn't really about sex in the same way we usually talk about sex though, it's not really about tall people in the way people can be tall. And I doubt that many people are into gigantism. I think it was something else.