Yeah, but still just wondering.
My RAM is @ 3600. Going higher probably would be a negligible difference.
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Yeah, but still just wondering.
My RAM is @ 3600. Going higher probably would be a negligible difference.
Looking also at these
Basically 1080p gaming and at least 60 fps are what I want. I don't care for Overclocking.
There were the specs for my previous PC, looking for a nice upgrade.
Device name - DESKTOP-T18BFCL
Processor - Intel Core i7-4790K CPU
Installed RAM 16.GB
Graphics Card - AMD Radeon 290x
Wondering if I should wait until this Chip shortage is sorted out
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Basically 1080p gaming and at least 60 fps are what I want. I don't care for Overclocking.
There were the specs for my previous PC, looking for a nice upgrade.
Device name - DESKTOP-T18BFCL
Processor - Intel Core i7-4790K CPU
Installed RAM 16.GB
Graphics Card - AMD Radeon 290x
Wondering if I should wait until this Chip shortage is sorted out
ABS Master Gaming PC - AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - GeForce RTX 3060 - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB SSD - Newegg.com
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CyberPowerPC Gamer Xtreme GXI1280 - tower - Core i5 9600KF 3.7 GHz - 16 GB - GXI1280 - Towers - CDW.com
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CyberPowerPC Gamer Master Desktop Computer, AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6GHz, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD+1TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB, Windows 10 Home
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If you are willing to keep your current GPU for a little longer, you can just build everything else and wait till this GPU craziness went out. If you definitely need something new the ABT one looks decent. You might want to swap out the RAM for 3200+, and maybe the PSU depending on the unit they use.Looking also at these
Basically 1080p gaming and at least 60 fps are what I want. I don't care for Overclocking.
There were the specs for my previous PC, looking for a nice upgrade.
Device name - DESKTOP-T18BFCL
Processor - Intel Core i7-4790K CPU
Installed RAM 16.GB
Graphics Card - AMD Radeon 290x
Wondering if I should wait until this Chip shortage is sorted out
ABS Master Gaming PC - AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - GeForce RTX 3060 - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB SSD - Newegg.com
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Buy a CyberPowerPC Gamer Xtreme GXI1280 - tower - Core i5 9600KF 3.7 GHz - 16 GB at CDW.comCyberPowerPC Gamer Master Desktop Computer, AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6GHz, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD+1TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB, Windows 10 Home
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Unfortunately my GPU died, hell I even made a thread about it, I'm just looking for an upgrade for what I had.
I think my PC is busted
Well it turns out it might be the GPU, so I'm going to have a find a replacement at some point and probably a new CPU and Motherboard considering the new GPU will have to run on newer variants that have DDR4 memory
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I've finished putting together my build. I already had a 5800x and 2080 TI before filling out the rest of the components. It's going to be used strictly for gaming at 1440p to 4K. Hopefully I haven't selected any bad parts. My biggest takeaway was that finding a good 850 W power supply in Canada at a decent price is difficult.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($639.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100x 57.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($276.99 @ PC-Canada)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($118.75 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($164.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Asus 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($423.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Scythe Kaze Flex Square 67.2 CFM 140 mm Fan ($27.13 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1936.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($639.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100x 57.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($276.99 @ PC-Canada)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($118.75 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($164.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Asus 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($423.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Scythe Kaze Flex Square 67.2 CFM 140 mm Fan ($27.13 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1936.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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You dont need that expensive of a PSU. RM750x is ~$180 Canadian rupees, SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold is about $190.
Wierd, when I was searching earlier I could have sworn the RMx was out of stock.
Tuned subtimings can see as much as a 20% increase to 1% lows in the best case in certain CPU bottlenecked games. I'd say it's definitely worth a try. The subtimings you generally get with XMP default are usually garbage, and err on the side of caution not performance.
As you're on Intel (and I'm sure you'll have good quality DIMMs) you can push well past that 3600mhz limit without worrying about infinity fabric etc. A RAM overclock to ~4200/4400mhz with tuned primary and sub timings will make a difference in a lot of games.
Given you've got 8x 5ghz Intel cores, memory is probably more likely to be your bottleneck at this point rather than CPU clockspeed. I wouldn't dismiss how significant an impact memory speed/tuning can have on a setup like yours.
Is your memory running in dual rank? There's extra performance to be had there as well.
What about your cache ratio? Is that overclocked?
I'm putting together a ridiculous build because I can legitimately buy it through my company as a business expense. But do I actually need it? Not really. Do I want it. Yes. Much.
Currently I have:
Intel Core I7-7700K 4.2 GHz QuadCore 8MB cache
Asus ROG STRIX Z270F GAMING Motherboard, Socket 1151, Z270, DDR4, S-ATA 600, ATX
CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3000 MHz
Nvidia GTX 1080Ti Founders edition
Corsair H100x Liquid cooling
Corsair 750W PSU
Various SSDs and HDDs
Dell U2412M monitor
What I want:
AMD Ryzen 5900
Nvidia 3080
32Gb of 3400Mhz RAM
Mobo, case, PSU and cooling to handle it.
Is that ridiculous? I can "afford" about £3.5k....
Currently I have:
Intel Core I7-7700K 4.2 GHz QuadCore 8MB cache
Asus ROG STRIX Z270F GAMING Motherboard, Socket 1151, Z270, DDR4, S-ATA 600, ATX
CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3000 MHz
Nvidia GTX 1080Ti Founders edition
Corsair H100x Liquid cooling
Corsair 750W PSU
Various SSDs and HDDs
Dell U2412M monitor
What I want:
AMD Ryzen 5900
Nvidia 3080
32Gb of 3400Mhz RAM
Mobo, case, PSU and cooling to handle it.
Is that ridiculous? I can "afford" about £3.5k....
haha if you want an extravagantly premium PSU that you wouldn't even think of buying if it was your own expenses, check if you can find in stock the 1000W Be quiet Dark Power 12 or 1200W Dark Power Pro 12
I swapped out a 5600x for a 5800x back in December and didn't have to do anything. But anytime you change out the CPU, the motherboard BIOS will reset. So write down whatever settings you changed so you can change them back after the CPU swap. I manually overclocked my RAM so I had to input my settings again, as well as my custom fan curves.
- CAS: Lian Li Lancool-215 ARGB Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis (x2 200m ARGB fans included)
- CPNR1: Cyberpower Sound Absorbing Foam -- reducing audible noise transmitted through solid case panels by up to 75% [+19]
- CPNR2: Cyberpower Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts -- reducing the noise transmitted from Fans [+9]
- CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X - 12-Core 3.70GHz, 4.8GHz Turbo - 64MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible (No On-board Graphics)
- CS_FAN: 3x 120mm Cyberpower Black PWM High Performance Cooling Fan [+18]
- EXCD: None Selected
- EXPAN: Built-in USB Ports
- FAN: Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro XT RGB High Performance Liquid Cooling System w/ 360mm Radiator, Ultimate OC Compatible [+67] (Corsair Hydro CPU Water Cooling, Ultimate OC Compatible)
- HDD: 4TB Seagate IronWolf Pro SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive (1 Drive)
- HOLIDAY1: ASUS TUF Gaming K1 RGB Keyboard + TUF Gaming RGB M3 Mouse + TUF Gaming H3 Headset (Gun Metal) Bundle [+68]
- HOLIDAY2: BullGuard Internet Security for Windows PC with Game Booster! (1 Year / 3 User Licence) [+0]
- INTERBROWSER1: Google Chrome Internet Browser [+0]
- M2SSD: 1TB (1x1TB) Samsung 980 Pro M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD - 7000MB/s Read & 5000MB/s Write (Single Drive)
- MEMORY: 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4/3200mhz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)
- MOTHERBOARD: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Pro Carbon WIFI: ATX w/ RGB, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2, SATA3, 2x M.2 [+58]
- OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition) Perfect for most people with all the core features of Windows 10 including: automatic updates, Cortana and DirectX 12 graphics support (No Recovery Media)
- OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Overclock up to 10%) [+29]
- POWERSUPPLY: Cooler Master MWE 850W 80+ Gold Modular Certified Gaming Power Supply [+20]
- PRO_WIRING1: AKASA Performance Compound 455 - Enthusiast Performance Thermal Paste [+9]
- PRO_WIRING2: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chasis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
- VIDEO: MSI GeForce® RTX 3080 10GB - Ray Tracing Technology, DX12®, VR Ready, HDMI, DP - 4 Monitor Support (Single Card)
- WARRANTY: DESKTOP STANDARD WARRANTY: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts, 6 Months' Collect and Return plus Life-Time Technical Support
Is this reasonable, assuming I can afford it? As in, am I being stiffed because I have poor impulse control?
Appreciate the post.
For some added detail, I'm using a Maximus XI Extreme mobo. My memory is 4x8, with the following:
- DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
- Timing 17-18-18-38
- CAS Latency 17
- Voltage 1.35V
I thought it might be a CPU bottleneck (somewhere) because I didn't have the issues I described in my previous post at 4k. But then again multiple people have said those two particular titles (PUBG and Warzone) are not the most optimized titles in the world, so idk.
You can go through each item one by one by checking their equivalent prices on Amazon/Newegg maybe. But the prices fluctuate so much it would be wise to check the price history on a price comparison chart sites like camelcamel to find an average/realistic ball-park. Random example for the UK since u live there:
Crucial MX500 2 TB CT2000MX500SSD1(Z)-Up to 560 MB/s (3D NAND, SATA, 2.5 Inch, Internal SSD) (B078C515QL)
Amazon price tracking & price history for Crucial MX500 2 TB CT2000MX500SSD1(Z)-Up to 560 MB/s (3D NAND, SATA, 2.5 Inch, Internal SSD) (B078C515QL)
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currently i have these parts for a PC to be built and shipped to me.
just wanted to post it here to check if things are alright or if there's something that should be changed before i commit fully.
Black Red Case
1
$139.99
NZXT Kraken X63 Cooler
1
$149.99
ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING 4Black motherboard
1
$159.99
PNY GeForce RTX™ 3070 UPRISING Dual Fan 8G
1
$899.99
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core 3.8GHz
1
$449.99
XPG Core Reactor 850W Gold
1
$159.99
XPG SPECTRIX D50 RGB 3600 MHz2 X 8 GB
1
$94.99
Windows 10 ProPro Edition
1
$149.99
Samsung 970 EVO Plus1.0 TB
1
$169.99
just wanted to post it here to check if things are alright or if there's something that should be changed before i commit fully.
Black Red Case
1
$139.99
NZXT Kraken X63 Cooler
1
$149.99
ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING 4Black motherboard
1
$159.99
PNY GeForce RTX™ 3070 UPRISING Dual Fan 8G
1
$899.99
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core 3.8GHz
1
$449.99
XPG Core Reactor 850W Gold
1
$159.99
XPG SPECTRIX D50 RGB 3600 MHz2 X 8 GB
1
$94.99
Windows 10 ProPro Edition
1
$149.99
Samsung 970 EVO Plus1.0 TB
1
$169.99
I'm shopping around for used rigs locally because new prices for parts seem insane atm. What do you think is the minimum specs I should keep in mind for both GPU and CPU(ryzen and Intel)for next gen games. Should a 2060 suffice? Don't need top of the line hardware. See lots of ryzen builds but no clue which models if any I should avoid. For example, I see lots of ryzen 5 2600 setups but no clue how well that will fare years down the road. Probably just be gaming at 1080p but who knows.
I don't think you need 850w power supply unless you plan on upgrading to a 3090 soon. And are you going to make use of the 3900x for more than gaming? If not, your spending more than you need to. Especially when a 5600x is a lot less.
i do video encoding mainly since i have a youtube channel.
i do plan to upgrade the GPU later.
Any reason I shouldn't use my 10 year old PSU in a new build (besides possible extra power requirements)
I'm not familiar with it (as I'm not on Intel) but Gamer's Nexus have put out a few videos on how significant a cache tune can be (to the point they were able to get a 10600K beating a 10900K in some games), so that's definitely something to explore. If you're using stock XMP then there's definitely going to be some quick wins by tuning subtimings.
4x8GB means you're already using dual rank, so that's good.
"CPU" bottlenecks are rarely straightforward in games because memory/latency can be just as important as raw clockspeed depending on the scenario.
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I have an EVGA 3080 and I read that when launching EVGA Precision it automatically updates the BIOS and firmware...is this true?...is there any way of preventing Precision from updating the firmware of the card?...does this apply to all manufacturers- meaning will it update the firmware and BIOS of all Ampere cards?...which BIOS does it update it to- the latest one with the Resizable Bar update or an earlier one?...does this happen anytime you open Precision- it checks for and updates to the latest firmware/BIOS?
why is Precision so embedded deep within Ampere's architecture where it automatically updates the BIOS?
why is Precision so embedded deep within Ampere's architecture where it automatically updates the BIOS?
My boss' son and grandson are trying to finish building a Gaming PC that I parted out for them in October of last year.
They don't see to understand the current reality of the market and how a single part in their build will be three times what it cost to build the entire PC this time last year.
Kid seems to think he can just buy a 3060 from Nvidia without issue.
Rude awakenings on the way.
They don't see to understand the current reality of the market and how a single part in their build will be three times what it cost to build the entire PC this time last year.
Kid seems to think he can just buy a 3060 from Nvidia without issue.
Rude awakenings on the way.
Do they only offer the 980 Pro? Or is there also the option to choose a WD SN850?
I have read people are having minor issues with the Samsung 980 Pro where write speeds are slower if you fill 50% of the drive. That may be something they could fix with a firmware update, but otherwise, the Wester Digital SN850 is the better drive at the moment, and is the same price.
It only updates EVGA cards. When it wants to update you pretty much have to update Precision to get that firmware update. Otherwise if I remember when I was updating mine, it asked before doing so.
So, I was looking at my current 9900k + 2080ti + 16GB RAM + x1 PCIE3 M.2 1TB Drive and thinking "you know what I need? an AMD Ryzen 9 5600x + 3090 + 32GB RAM + x2 PCIE4 M.2 2GB Drives"...
Quick! someone tell me...I'm nuts to think this, right?
Quick! someone tell me...I'm nuts to think this, right?
What monitor do you have? unless you want a little bit better performance at 4K you don't need the 3090 over the 3080, but honestly I would just keep the 2080ti until the 4080 unless you are playing a game at the moment that is too much for it.
It kinda is a bunch of stress to keep and eye open for these parts too, I would just wait it out if I was you. In a year or less you may be upgrading to a system with ddr5.
What you can do is get in the waiting list for a EVGA model, and if when you get the notification you still want it, then sure go ahead. That may be in July tho.
That said, this is coming from someone who started to buy parts last October for a system I may not built until August.
Thanks and yes its stressful keeping an eye on all this.
I've currently got the Alienware AW3821DW and was thinking of "upgrading" current setup to be more appropriate for combination work productivity + gaming (i also stream to my LG CX in the living room).
My company lets me BYOD for work stuff so figured it makes sense to kill two birds but if the 9900k is still a good solid workhorse then will likely keep it.
Gaming wise the 2080ti is still going strong sofar; i was more thinking about PCIE4 and new hard disks.
Guess this means holding fast till next year!
just swapping out the GPU would give you similar gaming results IMO
so when using Precision it will always update to the latest firmware and vBIOS for the GPU?...what about for that custom EVGA BIOS which increased the power limit, will it overwrite that?
I think the firmwares are tied to the version of Precision it released with. I don't know what it would do to custom Bios.
I'm no expert but I did just this. I used my PSU and case from a 2011 build. Working perfectly fine.
Bough a 10Mt HDMI 2.0 Cable to hook up the PC from the desktop to the TV so I don't have to move the tower everytime I want to play on the TV. Thing is, most of the time it doesn't give video. PC recognizes the screen, TV says there's something hooked, but it's just a black screen. The other time, the screen appears, then flickers and then looses signal. When it's on, it says 4K 60Hz, so it is 2.0.
Just to be sure, tried the PS3 with the same cable and no problems. Looks like I can't plug the cord all the way down on the graphics card but I can on the PS3 so I don't know what solution I could get. PC works fine with other HDMI cable too, but it's too short
Just to be sure, tried the PS3 with the same cable and no problems. Looks like I can't plug the cord all the way down on the graphics card but I can on the PS3 so I don't know what solution I could get. PC works fine with other HDMI cable too, but it's too short
How's this?
CASE:
NZXT H210
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core 3.6GHz
GPU:
NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX™ 3060 TI - GIGABYTE GAMING OC
MOTHERBOARDS:
MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC
RAM:
Team T-FORCE Delta RGB 3200MHz (max speed) 16GB (2X8 GB)
STORAGE:
Western Digital SN550 (1.0 TB)
CASE:
NZXT H210
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core 3.6GHz
GPU:
NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX™ 3060 TI - GIGABYTE GAMING OC
MOTHERBOARDS:
MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC
RAM:
Team T-FORCE Delta RGB 3200MHz (max speed) 16GB (2X8 GB)
STORAGE:
Western Digital SN550 (1.0 TB)
Change case to a NR200 or O11 Dynamic Mini I'd say? O11 Mini also has the extra benefit of being able to fit mATX and ATX boards so you have more to choose from, especially the quality B550s.
Thanks, still thinking about it, using this site to mess around with build settings. Might just get a prebuilt unless something changes with GPU prices later this year
Oh wow that's the first prebuild site I've seen that has the 5600X. Kind of a bummer that they don't offer B550 boards to at least have one pcie 4.0 M.2 and one PCIe 4.0 x16 slot, but instead go directly from B450 to a rather pricey X570 board.
Very well done with the loop, Dreams-Visions ....
I'll be taking on the task of two open loop machines starting tomorrow.
First machine: O11D Mini, Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula X570 mobo w/ Ryzen 3950X, 2080 Ti Founder's w/ EK block, 32GB G-Skill Trident RGB 3200MHz CL14 B-Die 2-stick kit, WD Black 1TB M.2 NVME PCIe 3.0 SSD, 2x WD Ultrastar 14TB HDDs, Elgato 4K60 Pro Mk2 Capture Card, Silverstone SX800-LTI Power Supply, EK pump/res combo, EK thin 360 bottom rad, EK thiccc 240 side rad, EK ZMT matte black soft tubing with clear EK Cryofuel, Lian Li UNI 120mm fans all over, Lian Li Strimer Plus RGB mobo and GPU cables
My second machine (my main) is currently running with AIO on the CPU and stock cooler on the GPU, but I will make it into a water cooled system some time after completing the first one. It used to have the mobo, CPU and GPU that are going into the build I start tomorrow, and it was all in a hardline tubing custom loop that I've shared photos of in here a while back but I upgraded my parts and had to give up the loop to do it.
O11D XL, Asus ROG Crosshair VIII X570 Dark Hero mobo w/ Ryzen 5950X, 3090 Founder's Edition w/ EK Quantum Vector block (it's a goddamn beauty), EK O11D XL side distro plate with pump, 2x 2TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 2TB M.2 NVME SSDs in RAID 0 config, WD Ultrastar 14TB HDD, Pro Tools HD Native PCIe card, Blackmagic Mini Monitor 4K PCIe card, Seasonic Prime PX-1000 Power Supply, EK thiccc 360 rad on bottom and EK medium thickness 360 rad on top, all with acrylic hardline tubing and EK Solid Red Cryofuel. Lian Li UNI 120mm fans all over in this one too. I'll be using the Lian Li vertical GPU bracket with 3 riser cables to hold all my PCIe cards.
BTW Dreams-Visions what are your thoughts on the Dark Hero not having enough USB headers for the O11D XL case? Is there some kind of decent PCIe 1x card that can be used in that tiny slot to provide a header for the XL's bottom USB ports?
I'll be taking on the task of two open loop machines starting tomorrow.
First machine: O11D Mini, Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula X570 mobo w/ Ryzen 3950X, 2080 Ti Founder's w/ EK block, 32GB G-Skill Trident RGB 3200MHz CL14 B-Die 2-stick kit, WD Black 1TB M.2 NVME PCIe 3.0 SSD, 2x WD Ultrastar 14TB HDDs, Elgato 4K60 Pro Mk2 Capture Card, Silverstone SX800-LTI Power Supply, EK pump/res combo, EK thin 360 bottom rad, EK thiccc 240 side rad, EK ZMT matte black soft tubing with clear EK Cryofuel, Lian Li UNI 120mm fans all over, Lian Li Strimer Plus RGB mobo and GPU cables
My second machine (my main) is currently running with AIO on the CPU and stock cooler on the GPU, but I will make it into a water cooled system some time after completing the first one. It used to have the mobo, CPU and GPU that are going into the build I start tomorrow, and it was all in a hardline tubing custom loop that I've shared photos of in here a while back but I upgraded my parts and had to give up the loop to do it.
O11D XL, Asus ROG Crosshair VIII X570 Dark Hero mobo w/ Ryzen 5950X, 3090 Founder's Edition w/ EK Quantum Vector block (it's a goddamn beauty), EK O11D XL side distro plate with pump, 2x 2TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 2TB M.2 NVME SSDs in RAID 0 config, WD Ultrastar 14TB HDD, Pro Tools HD Native PCIe card, Blackmagic Mini Monitor 4K PCIe card, Seasonic Prime PX-1000 Power Supply, EK thiccc 360 rad on bottom and EK medium thickness 360 rad on top, all with acrylic hardline tubing and EK Solid Red Cryofuel. Lian Li UNI 120mm fans all over in this one too. I'll be using the Lian Li vertical GPU bracket with 3 riser cables to hold all my PCIe cards.
BTW Dreams-Visions what are your thoughts on the Dark Hero not having enough USB headers for the O11D XL case? Is there some kind of decent PCIe 1x card that can be used in that tiny slot to provide a header for the XL's bottom USB ports?
Gamer's Nexus have their 11400 review out:
youtu.be
As a gaming CPU it's comfortably taken the crown of "bang for buck" from the 3600 now that AMD have completely vacated the sub $300 price range.
Trades blows with the 10600K (sometimes faster sometimes slower) and comfortably beats both the 3600 and 3700x across the board. They recommended it as a gaming CPU based on pricing of the 11400 SKU but depending on your market you might be able to save a decent chunk by going with the 11400F which ditches the integrated graphics making it a like for like comparison.
It's a little behind in production workloads and this appears to be due to the strict power limits in place by default, limiting the boosting frequency. No benchmarks to back it up but based on the 11600k results, removing those limits may claw back most of that deficit.
I really think this should be replacing the 3600 on any and every "budget/ bang for buck" build guide. The 3600 really can't be justified as a selection in any gaming build anymore, it's simply slower and more expensive.
With memory overclocking and PCIe 4.0 on B560 boards now, there's really no drawback with going Intel in this price range anymore.
The 3600 had a good run, but it's time as a gaming CPU recommendation is well and truly over. If anyone continues to recommend it for a gaming build, then you're best served ignoring their build guides completely.
$184 Threat to AMD: Intel i5-11400 CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. R5 3600, 5600X, 11600K
Intel's new i5-11400 CPU is one of the best-positioned potential rivals to AMD's long-standing $200 dominance -- except this time, AMD doesn't have anything ...
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As a gaming CPU it's comfortably taken the crown of "bang for buck" from the 3600 now that AMD have completely vacated the sub $300 price range.
Trades blows with the 10600K (sometimes faster sometimes slower) and comfortably beats both the 3600 and 3700x across the board. They recommended it as a gaming CPU based on pricing of the 11400 SKU but depending on your market you might be able to save a decent chunk by going with the 11400F which ditches the integrated graphics making it a like for like comparison.
It's a little behind in production workloads and this appears to be due to the strict power limits in place by default, limiting the boosting frequency. No benchmarks to back it up but based on the 11600k results, removing those limits may claw back most of that deficit.
I really think this should be replacing the 3600 on any and every "budget/ bang for buck" build guide. The 3600 really can't be justified as a selection in any gaming build anymore, it's simply slower and more expensive.
With memory overclocking and PCIe 4.0 on B560 boards now, there's really no drawback with going Intel in this price range anymore.
The 3600 had a good run, but it's time as a gaming CPU recommendation is well and truly over. If anyone continues to recommend it for a gaming build, then you're best served ignoring their build guides completely.
The 11400 + B560 is the de facto king of budget gaming builds. And the 11600K+Z490/590 looks strong as well. Good time for CPU/MB market.
At current prices + the existence of B560 the 10400F already replaced the 3600 as best budget gaming CPU. It's faster while being cheaper. The 11400(F) just improves on this. B560 is probably the best thing about RL release.
I find it weird how most reviews use non-F CPUs & their prices when they're comparing RL against AMD, like the above 11400 GN review, when they should be using the F versions as AMD doesn't have iGPUs either.
I find it weird how most reviews use non-F CPUs & their prices when they're comparing RL against AMD, like the above 11400 GN review, when they should be using the F versions as AMD doesn't have iGPUs either.
If that's all they can get their hands on then I think that's fine to use it for benchmarking but the price comparisons should be like for like, which means using F SKU pricing. It's a £20 difference here in the UK which is significant, when you consider that puts the 10400F/11400F at just £120/£150. They're both incredibly good value, more outlets should be making a bigger deal out of this. For the vast majority of gaming setups out there, the difference in games between a £150 11400F and £420 (!!) is going to be mostly imperceptible.
Those 10-20% uplifts in gaming performance are only coming about with a 3080/6800XT (or better) at 1080p. Is that really worth paying close to 3x as much for most? If you're on a 3070 or lower or game at 1440p or higher, you're going to be incredibly hard pressed to notice any difference at all.
Gamer's Nexus have their 11400 review out:
$184 Threat to AMD: Intel i5-11400 CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. R5 3600, 5600X, 11600K
Intel's new i5-11400 CPU is one of the best-positioned potential rivals to AMD's long-standing $200 dominance -- except this time, AMD doesn't have anything ...
As a gaming CPU it's comfortably taken the crown of "bang for buck" from the 3600 now that AMD have completely vacated the sub $300 price range.
Trades blows with the 10600K (sometimes faster sometimes slower) and comfortably beats both the 3600 and 3700x across the board. They recommended it as a gaming CPU based on pricing of the 11400 SKU but depending on your market you might be able to save a decent chunk by going with the 11400F which ditches the integrated graphics making it a like for like comparison.
It's a little behind in production workloads and this appears to be due to the strict power limits in place by default, limiting the boosting frequency. No benchmarks to back it up but based on the 11600k results, removing those limits may claw back most of that deficit.
I really think this should be replacing the 3600 on any and every "budget/ bang for buck" build guide. The 3600 really can't be justified as a selection in any gaming build anymore, it's simply slower and more expensive.
With memory overclocking and PCIe 4.0 on B560 boards now, there's really no drawback with going Intel in this price range anymore.
The 3600 had a good run, but it's time as a gaming CPU recommendation is well and truly over. If anyone continues to recommend it for a gaming build, then you're best served ignoring their build guides completely.
11400F it is. Looks a great chip. Was waiting to decide between it and the 10400F, think I'll pay the extra for the 11th gen chip.
