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Texas Senator Cornyn: Trump Justice Department is investigating Biden for corruption
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You can bet a billion dollars Trump would be doing the same to warren or Bernie or Harris if they were the front runners.
Yep, this is a horrible thing regardless of what you think of Biden. Trump knows he just has to muddy the waters and bring the other candidates down to his level. He learned this with "but her emails," which actually worked well and helped get him elected. And the "both sides" media will play right along.
Commandeering the Justice Department (and State Department) to seek out political hit jobs is actually rather fucking high on the totem pole of issues with the Trump administration. Holy shit, how can you think otherwise? Has this been that normalized? The Justice Department isn't the president's personal lawyers. They're not part of his campaign. They should be undefended of the executive and in any other presidency this would be a major fucking scandal.
If you support this, you're a fucking idiot. There has been absolutely no evidence to support an investigation into Biden. This is clearly the President using his DoJ as a political lackey. Just nonsense.
If you want Biden to lose, sure great, but this is the most insipid way it can go. And you're fooling yourself if you think it stops at Biden.
If you want Biden to lose, sure great, but this is the most insipid way it can go. And you're fooling yourself if you think it stops at Biden.
People who are fine with this are idiots. We get it, you don't like Biden. Now, what do you think is going to happen if Biden doesn't get the nomination?
All of this to try and get dirt on someone who is starting to lose ground in the primary and won't even be the Democratic nominee.
Considering how many people hate Biden here and will look for any excuse to get rid of him for their favored candidate, I'm not surprised at all to see so much approval of this even when there are no grounds for it and it wouldn't be acceptable for any President to sic the Department of Justice on political opponents in the first place. As though Trump won't try to create negative optics based on nothing regardless of who gets the nomination.
100% this. And whos to say they won't simply pull some shit out of thin air to have someone arrested eventually to remove them and other politicians from the playing field in future elections. I don't put it past these assholes for a second
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you can bet they are about to go full corrupt on finding dirt on warren if she starts pulling ahead in all polls
This is the start of Trump's counter offense. Using the Republican Senate and executive branch to investigate Biden and muddy the waters, and not coincidently, at the same time the Ukrainian government is also going to open an investigation into Biden. Quid pro quo right in our faces.
Oh yes. There's definitely an abundance of folks around these parts who are great at absorbing Republican talking points
I agree no one is above the law, but this is only happening because he's the only person trump is scared of because that's who everyone says has the best chance of beating him, not because there's legitimate cause. Fuck this whole thing.
Depends entirely on the grounds for the investigation. None of us know what that is. Would you really be surprised to learn Biden is corrupt? The investigation should be handled with extreme care but if there are grounds for it, it should occur.
This is pretty far from 'fine'. Investigating political opponents on dubious grounds is one of the oldest moves in the dictactor's playbook. Another one is locking the competition up. That may sound like craziness but we have a daytime tv host running the country and openly soliciting help from rival nations to interfere in our elections.
Impeach this motherfucker.
Impeach this motherfucker.
I'm sure the people who are fine with investigating Biden won't mind if the Justice Department give this a through investigation too:
I mean it can't hurt give it a once over again! /s
I mean it can't hurt give it a once over again! /s
Anyone in this thread who thinks this isn't a problem is a useful idiot who's enabling fascism.
No wonder democracy is circling the drain when people think it's fine for the Executive branch to use the nation's resources to campaign for itself and damage opposing campaigns.
No wonder democracy is circling the drain when people think it's fine for the Executive branch to use the nation's resources to campaign for itself and damage opposing campaigns.
My thought for Joe stepping down from the race during the investigation isn't hate.
It's conceivable he was caught up in something that extends beyond his vision or his administration at the time.
Not saying he's guilty and mean and out to destroy everyone or shouldn't come back to the race.
It's Joe Biden. He's not going to lose name recognition. The investigation if not impeded should be fast. If nothing is turned up to corroborate. His chances go to 11 when he comes back in. Everyone loves Joe for doing the moral thing in presidential leadership.
You're willfully ignoring the part where the President was shopping this to other countries to open an investigation into Biden, Barr being a stooge whose rationale for not investigating the whistleblower complaint was that he couldn't come up with an exact value opening up a criminal investigation into an opponent would have, and that this is the best time for it to come out.
Giving cover to known fucking liars by giving them the benefit of the doubt on issues like these lets them get away with everything.
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Lol. Come on. I don't like Biden either but the empty seat we have as President can't use the fucking DOJ for a useless investigation like this...
We fucking know the basis is Hunter Biden's Ukraine work because that's exactly what Trump was shopping for an investigation for. And we fucking know that that investigation is bullshit, already been done.
It's what happened with Barr and the Mueller report, so yes it absolutely does.
LMAO. Why are they entirely separate? Barr's a proven tool of the president and not the law. The thing Trump has been screaming about is Hunter Biden's work with Ukraine. It's obvious unless you have blinders on that this is a sham.
I don't understand how any Democrat could look at what happened in 2016 and say that this is a waste of Trump's time and effort. Hell, the fact that it tries to justify the Ukraine dealings means that it in of itself isn't a waste of time.
We're in a different place from back then. Comey had credibility and Obama wasn't being impeached. The justice department is losing credibility rapidly and Trump is being impeached. If independents are swayed by this then Democrats are doing a bad job in messaging. I expected Trump to pull this BS, I'm saying it's better that it's now before the main election and before Biden is even the nominee.
I'm not saying this is a good thing for the country, but my expectations of this behavior means I'm not surprised by it at this point and feel like they played this hand much earlier than they would have if the whistleblower hadn't come out. If this had dropped in October 2020 I'd be a lot more worried. By election time (even if Biden is the nominee which I don't think he will be) people will be sick of this crap and only the Trump base will be talking about this since the investigation will yield no results. If Trump brings it up, Biden just says your justice department came after me and found nothing and you were impeached because you committed so and so crimes.
The grounds is bullshit conspiracies, a POTUS that thinks the DoJ is a personal vendetta tool ignoring the independence the FBI/DoJ have with regard to investigations, and a sycophant AG.
You are approving of facist tactics. A POTUS using the Justice Department to drum up investigations on political opponents based on no evidence is facism. Approving of this tactic "because Biden" is so fucking short-sighted and ignorant. If you give Trump the OK to do this against Biden, do you think he will stop when it comes to Warren or Sanders?
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. We have historical evidence for what is happening right now. We merely need look at how Putin has retained power to see what's going on here.
You might be right. Probably are. But you might be wrong.
Look at how the enlightened leftist masses in this thread are responding to it for confirmation that yes, we really are this fucking stupid
We know exactly what the (debunked) basis is -- that Biden pressured Ukraine to fire their prosecutor to save a company Hunter Biden was associated with.
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