Dont you hold r and move the left stick? Actually is slightly faster than pointing.
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Did the mecha Bowser roller coaster battle and the lack of inverted controls made it near impossible. I have managed to adapt for the fludd mechanics early on since precise movement isn't really needed, but I was getting destroyed by the bullet bills. Hopefully we get a patch for that but not holding my breath.
Maybe I missed that as an option. I'll have to try it out when I boot it up next!
I'm five shines into Sunshine after finishing off 64 (see thoughts a few posts back) and it feels like a massive step up across the board.
Mario feels tighter to control and more nimble - there's a wonderful elasticity to his animations that make moving him around feel satisfying.
Proper 360 degree camera control feels like a revelation after wrestling with the archaic setup in 64.
A hub with a sense of place, NPCs, news bulletins and cutscenes peppered in between levels showing where more paint has sprung up on the island? Count me in.
Worlds that feel like actual locations, populated with people.
Levels that feel like part of a larger whole, thanks to being able to spot other areas off in the distance.
I'd also add that level intros are very welcome. Let's cut out the chaff, stop wasting time and get to the objective.
I've played both games before - but revisiting them 20 years later makes Sunshine feel like a much more accomplished effort. Not without issue of course, but it does a lot of things better than 64 in my opinion.
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I got 60 stars in Mario 64 and yea it's a bad game.
Feels like I'm running on ice, while walking through sandquick with a broken arm.
I'm fighting with the controls the whole way through even if I don't touch the camera and zoom out, i get stucks in the wall constantly.
When the game works it's definitely smooth but it's so far between all the bad stuff it's frustrating. The game did not age well at all. I'm still going to get all the stars because I never did beat the game as a kid maybe my opinion will change later.
Feels like I'm running on ice, while walking through sandquick with a broken arm.
I'm fighting with the controls the whole way through even if I don't touch the camera and zoom out, i get stucks in the wall constantly.
When the game works it's definitely smooth but it's so far between all the bad stuff it's frustrating. The game did not age well at all. I'm still going to get all the stars because I never did beat the game as a kid maybe my opinion will change later.
SMG1 is odd because even when you reach the late game and its showing more of its platforming hand, you still have these segments like deep dark galaxy being all "hey motherfucker, you may have 50 plus stars but can you possibly SWIM THROUGH THESE RINGS?!"
SMG2 feels like a game that starts its challenge level at least around mid-late Galaxy 1 and really decreases a number of Galaxy's recurring tropes like "collect the 5 star pieces!", "chase the rabbits!", "light the sconces!", "wooo its space and gravity", it just starts rocking in with obstacle course design on the regular and that's why I love it.
I haven't picked this up yet but probably will. Oddly enough I like Sunshine the least out of the three but I'm most likely gonna play that first since that's the only one of the 3 I didn't get 120 in.
Oh the Pachinko level depends on how early, late, and how long you hold the water in hover nozzle. That was a pretty easy shine afterwards
Gamexplain says yes.
Gamexplain says yes.
im not near the switch so I may not be remembering that correctly.
I had the dialog boxes. I remember because I laughed yesterday when she said that when I was between her legs.
You press A/B to pull Mario towards the blue star. However, Mario can actually move past the blue star if you don't continue to hold A/B which then pulls him to the blue star you're on and stop. But sometimes it's beneficial to move Mario pass the blue star a bit to grab coins or 1-ups. I think you can make him move past it with the direction of the control stick too if you don't hold A/B.
Oh I know I can knock him down with just water, that's not my problem. My problem is hitting his mouth with water when he's down. I didn't mean the blowfish enemies that interrupt me but rather the regular slime-bubble enemies that always appear in slime puddles. Whenever I aim for the mouth one of these comes around and I have to abort.
Interestingly enough it's vice-versa for me. On the initial release I was lukewarm on Galaxy, also because I could never handle the Wiimote split-controls well with my disability and even playing it later on Dolphin with my PC and a Dualshock 3/4 I never found the game too special. For whatever reason the levels always felt smaller than 64 levels were in my memory even though I knew that can't be. Playing Galaxy in the collection now I'm having a absolute blast with it for whatever reason.
After the tease at the of SMO, I wish we would have gotten a full 64 remake, and then added Galaxy 2 here.
Playing 64 stillteleports me back to 1996 and I even found a PDF of the BradyGames strategy guide I had so it's all kinds of nostalgia. All I need is a Dominos pizza because they opened here in town about the same time this came out so the two are nearlyengrained in my mind with each other.
Playing 64 stillteleports me back to 1996 and I even found a PDF of the BradyGames strategy guide I had so it's all kinds of nostalgia. All I need is a Dominos pizza because they opened here in town about the same time this came out so the two are nearlyengrained in my mind with each other.
Shifting Sand Land is so baaaad. What a completely unenjoyable level.
Also, surely other people have been noticing Mario's face going all ugly and triangular when the camera is far away at times, right? Was that always a thing in SM64, and the higher resolution is just making it more noticeable?
Also, surely other people have been noticing Mario's face going all ugly and triangular when the camera is far away at times, right? Was that always a thing in SM64, and the higher resolution is just making it more noticeable?
Yeah, in hindsight Sunshine is a pretty incredible game. It has aged beautifully in most respects. Some design elements are a tad too challenging or clever for their own good, but overall it's just a joy pure and simple to exist in that world.
One of the extremely minor but cool things in Sunshine is being able to see levels from within other levels. I always thought that was cool back in the day. It's certainly the most environmentally cohesive 3D Mario.
I watched Dan Ryckert play it, that dialogue was definitely in there
Whaaaat? No way, that's one of the best! Use the wing cap and shell to get around
i already did a play through of it earlier this year and you couldnt pay me to do that again.
Delfino Plaza is one of the most fun Mario playgrounds ever. If you ever feel like playing Mario but don't feel like playing any Mario level in particular, you boot up Sunshine and bounce around Delfino Plaza - kicking up walls, scampering across rooftops, springing and swinging on tightropes, etc. The plaza is the core of Sunshine and I adore it.
i'm not sure if this is pressure sensitivity related or not, but holy shit trying to flip over the panels in the casino is one obnoxious time.
The instant-kill quicksand just kills that level. The level is kind of awkwardly laid out too such that surfing on a shell isn't entirely feasible. The red coins and the red pillar stars resulted in the most deaths for me and my first Game Over. :/
Wow, I honestly never once noticed it until playing this collection. And now I can't unsee it haha.
I can understand why people liked it at the time, and its importance in the history of gaming can't be overstated. But it aged very poorly very quickly. It's the worst 3D Mario platformer by far.
I remember having serious trouble with it as an 11 year old. I decided to just take it slow this time and it clicked for me. I now get that holding, or tapping B (or whatver button you use to swim) will make you go forward. The stick will point you in the direction. It's kind like a flight stick, pull back to go up and so forth. I let go of the button for reorientation. I also found that when you are trying to get up a ledge from the water, pulling back and holding b will make you hop up onto the ground. I am so much more comfortable with it this time.
I know opinions are pretty divided on Sunshine, but I do genuinely think Mario's water slide ability in that game is fantastic.
So much fun.
So much fun.
Damn, while Sunshine looks really aged on TV and the graphics engine/style reminds me a lot on PC early 2000 and surprisingly a lot on PS1 games with their thin, wobbly, pixelated textures (but it's not bad it's extremely interesting).
In handheld mode, on really small pixels and 720p, it looks phenomenal. Like it could be a brand new Switch release. Crazy.
In handheld mode, on really small pixels and 720p, it looks phenomenal. Like it could be a brand new Switch release. Crazy.
Yeah that makes me excited for Galaxy 2. One thing I will give the game is that the boss fights have all been pretty good so far. No recycled Koopalings or "run past Bowser and hit the button" crap here.
Oh yeah I can see the control differences being a big deal, I definitely think the new controls work well for Galaxy
Personal opinion is 3D Mario got better with each subsequent release. Odyssey > 3D Land/World > Galaxy 2 > Galaxy > Sunshine > 64
Just did a quick 60 star clear of galaxy and I can't express enough how much I love this game. Gotta go back and 100% this and then start working through Sunshine. Will probably revisit Odyssey as I didn't care for that game.
I know people love them, but the platforming sections in Sunshine are way too difficult for me to enjoy them properly.
Anyone having issues with the long jump in Mario 64? It only works if I use the A button. Not the B button on the pro controller.
Honestly, Mario 64 - I get how iconic it is but this just doesn't hold up. I cant think of any n64 games that do. The wing cap controls are atrocious
Honestly, Mario 64 - I get how iconic it is but this just doesn't hold up. I cant think of any n64 games that do. The wing cap controls are atrocious
I played SM64's PC port, and even with some improvements like an analog camera, it just didn't age well at all. Not surprised by some of what I'm reading here. Excited to get around to Sunshine though.
81 shines in sunshine today (completely finished all levels except for pianta village, with secret shines and 100 coin shines). i need a break! be back tomorrow, mario.
I saw plenty at the store I was at today, so it's not sold out everywhere.
Playing 64 makes me wish I was playing Galaxy instead, playing Galaxy makes me wish I was playing Galaxy 2 and Sunshine makes me wish I was playing Hotel Mario.
Agreed on 64 not aging super well. I'm still having a blast but there's definitely some needlessly frustrating platforming
I've played both 64 and Sunshine on this thing, but haven't touched Galaxy yet. I think before playing this, Galaxy was the most fresh one on my mind, so I started with Sunshine and played some of it, and then played some of 64. I think I'm going to commit to finishing Sunshine first though. It was definitely the least fresh on my mind since I last played it before this collection in 2002 when it came out.
I don't remember it being bad like most people say, and honestly, playing it now I still think it's a very good game. It's the weakest 3D Mario for sure, but it's very underrated IMO. It does have it's bullshit such as the Sand Bird and Pachinko. It only being 30FPS was kind of disappointing, but I loved some of it's new mechanics, particularly the water slide (shoot water while running, dive and slide). I definitely miss having a long jump though.
Both Sunshine and 64 have aged really well. I'm sure Galaxy will too.
I don't remember it being bad like most people say, and honestly, playing it now I still think it's a very good game. It's the weakest 3D Mario for sure, but it's very underrated IMO. It does have it's bullshit such as the Sand Bird and Pachinko. It only being 30FPS was kind of disappointing, but I loved some of it's new mechanics, particularly the water slide (shoot water while running, dive and slide). I definitely miss having a long jump though.
Both Sunshine and 64 have aged really well. I'm sure Galaxy will too.