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Oct 27, 2017
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The humor in the trailer is a little confusing to me. It kind of seems like Nickelodeon humor, which is cool for little kids and pre-teens, but then the trailer shows that sexual situation, so it's obviously not a kid's show then. I guess this is targeted for adolescents?

I don't know. Maybe that trailer is just bad at showing what the humor is going to be like.
 

Kaz Mk II

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Oct 27, 2017
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This is what happens when you keep trying to milk a property you have no idea what to do with.

But I will say, it doesn't look terrible. I just have to mourn this IP.
 

lokiduck

The Fallen
Mar 27, 2019
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wut

who asked for this
I did kind of... I've always wanted to learn more about what it's like for the regular crew in Star Trek episodes, especially with the bullshit they have to put up with in the more stupid episodes like the one where the Next Gen crew de-evolves.

Can you imagine just trying to do your normal job clearing the cafeteria when suddenly you are de-evolving and trying to avoid getting eaten by your fellow crew members? How do you go to back to work after shit like that.

However, while I wanted to learn more about what it's like for the general crews and when I first heard of this show I was interested, this doesn't look like what I wanted at all. XD
It'll live or die based on the arcs of the characters more than one-off jokes. There's supposed to be some pathos around people joining Starfleet only to realize most never get to be heroes. And not everyone can be a scientist utterly obsessed with their work for its own sake.

I can see the "jokes" in these cuts having a very different connotation depending on the context.
Agreed.
 

Quinton

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This isn't even remotely my cup of tea and I may actually skip it altogether.

But I don't mind. I'm enjoying both Discovery and Picard. And Strange New Worlds is likely to be a banger as well. I'm spoiled rich as a Star Trek fan. It's OK that this exists.
 

Kschreck

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah this looks pretty awful. I just don't think humor belongs in Star Trek. Not full-on humor anyways. A well placed joke on occasion is alright but nothing more. Why does every single show in existence have to be "funny" these days? :/
 

NCR Ranger

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Oct 25, 2017
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This isn't even remotely my cup of tea and I may actually skip it altogether.

But I don't mind. I'm enjoying both Discovery and Picard. And Strange New Worlds is likely to be a banger as well. I'm spoiled rich as a Star Trek fan. It's OK that this exists.

Oh, that's what they are calling the Pike show. I am hoping that one will scratch the old TNG itch.
 

Siggy-P

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Bob_Coffee

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Oct 25, 2017
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could be ok, but i would rather trade it for Anime trek done by Xebec in the style of Yamato 2199 to be honest.
 

Betelgeuse

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Nov 2, 2017
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The way this franchise has been handled since Discovery is tragic.

I'm increasingly confident that thoughtful, contemplative, and intelligent Trek - the kind best embodied by DS9 - is firmly dead and won't be coming back.
 

Quinton

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I felt more comfortable when Star Trek was dead.

I'm sorry to cause you such discomfort but I'm quite grateful for the Trek renaissance and will continue supporting it. While I agree that the best of the franchise is likely behind us, Discovery and especially Picard have been hits in my household.
 

Kschreck

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I'm sorry to cause you such discomfort but I'm quite grateful for the Trek renaissance and will continue supporting it. While I agree that the best of the franchise is likely behind us, Discovery and especially Picard have been hits in my household.

Yup same here. I felt like Discovery season 2 was legit awesome. A few rough spots here and there but other then that a lot of great moments. Picard I thought was a lot more rough around the edges but I still enjoyed it. The pilot episode was nearly perfect but I thought the quality dwindled off later on. Some of the characters were poorly written and such, lame plot devices, etc but happy to see Picard back. New showrunner for season 2 so I'm hopeful. Either way I like both shows and I'm excited for the Pike series. :)
 

jb1234

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm sorry to cause you such discomfort but I'm quite grateful for the Trek renaissance and will continue supporting it. While I agree that the best of the franchise is likely behind us, Discovery and especially Picard have been hits in my household.

I now entrust you the task of getting me to watch S2 of Discovery. :p I thought the first season was mediocre and the first season of Picard even worse.
 

RowdyReverb

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like it would be funnier in non-trailer form. Trailers suck away any semblance of comedic timing since you don't know the characters and there is no time to set up a good joke. Comedy trailers can maybe squeeze in 1-2 decent gags that have limited enough setup to be funny.
 

Chiaroscuro

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Oct 25, 2017
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Eh, I don't know if I agree with that given the "quality" of Discovery and Picard.

Anything they do with the franchise is fine by me as long as they make good products. So far CBS AA has failed completely at that.

Agree on Picard. Discovery gave me Pike so I can forgive the convoluted plot.
 

Inquisitive_Ghost

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Oct 26, 2017
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I really don't know how to feel about a comedy Star Trek series. The whole trailer just feels off, though I'm not actually opposed in principle.

A big part of my problem with this trailer is that it feels a lot like Final Space. I watched the first season of Final Space and genuinely thought it was just a flat-out really poor quality show until the S1 finale. I still haven't bothered watching the second season and I don't know if I ever will.
 
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Personally I think comedy like this is a complete mismatch for the Star Trek brand.

This looks like a long-form SNL skit of Star Trek.

Not to be That Guy, but one of the main things I find appealing about the Star Trek franchise is the SciFi and the moral issues the show is able to tackle. When Star Trek is on its game, it makes you question societal norms and how we value life and what we consider a life-form worthy of protection and consent. If you just want SciFi fantasy junk food, that's what Star Wars is for.

I agree with those that said, the brand holders simply don't know what to do with the Star Trek franchise, which is an utter shame considering what's going on in the world today.
 

Samoyeti

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've recently started watching TNG as my first taste of the franchise. Haven't watched anything else and am not a seasoned fan to opine what makes Star Trek great.

However, this trailer looks fun and feels like it would be a solid 7/10 kind of show like someone else mentioned.
 
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Rei no Otaku

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I'm sorry to cause you such discomfort but I'm quite grateful for the Trek renaissance and will continue supporting it. While I agree that the best of the franchise is likely behind us, Discovery and especially Picard have been hits in my household.
I wish I had enjoyed them. I hated Discovery S1, so didn't bother with S2. As for Picard, I thought it was the worst thing Star Trek has done. I'd rather watch The Final Frontier and all of Voyager than a single episode of Picard.

Hopefully this Pike show is good, but at this point I have zero hope for it.
 

19thCenturyFox

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Personally I think comedy like this is a complete mismatch for the Star Trek brand.

This looks like a long-form SNL skit of Star Trek.

Not to be That Guy, but one of the main things I find appealing about the Star Trek franchise is the SciFi and the moral issues the show is able to tackle. When Star Trek is on its game, it makes you question societal norms and how we value life and what we consider a life-form worthy of protection and consent. If you just want SciFi fantasy junk food, that's what Star Wars is for.

I agree with those that said, the brand holders simply don't know what to do with the Star Trek franchise, which is an utter shame considering what's going on in the world today.

I'm a big Star Trek fan but let me tell you that only 3-5 episodes out of every 20+ episode season are more than schlock. This franchise rarely makes you think of anything or challenge you in an interesting way. It's heavily anthologized one off schlocky adventures where people devolve onto cave men, get turned into children by transporter accidents or where supervillains are created because the computer acts more like a genie than an actual computer.

Rick Berman and Brannon Braga had no fucking clue what they were doing and they were hated by the Trek community in a similar fashion as the Game of Thrones showrunners are hated by their community.

Star Trek as a franchise is being put on this pedestal as something that it rarely ever was and I feel like CBS' new efforts are being compared to some fictional thing that people have built in their mind by watching the same 10-15 high quality episodes over and over.

The stuff that happens to the ship in Lower Decks is the same stuff that would happen to the Enterprise, Defiant or Voyager on a weekly basis. We just see it from the viewpoint of quirky outsiders who aren't involved in the decision making on the bridge. If anything I wish it was even more mundane and character based, because they used to market this as taking place on a ship that scans anomalies and charts space so that the Enterprise doesn't have to. I'm okay with this though and weirdly enough, if you look at the reactions in this thread, it might be closer to old Trek this way than it would have been.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I'm a big Star Trek fan but let me tell you that only 3-5 episodes out of every 20+ episode season are more than schlock. This franchise rarely makes you think of anything or challenge you in an interesting way. It's heavily anthologized one off schlocky adventures where people devolve onto cave men, get turned into children by transporter accidents or where supervillains are created because the computer acts more like a genie than an actual computer.

Rick Berman and Brannon Braga had no fucking clue what they were doing and they were hated by the Trek community in a similar fashion as the Game of Thrones showrunners are hated by their community.

Star Trek as a franchise is being put on this pedestal as something that it rarely ever was and I feel like CBS' new efforts are being compared to some fictional thing that people have built in their mind by watching the same 10-15 high quality episodes over and over.

The stuff that happens to the ship in Lower Decks is the same stuff that would happen to the Enterprise, Defiant or Voyager on a weekly basis. We just see it from the viewpoint of quirky outsiders who aren't involved in the decision making on the bridge. If anything I wish it was even more mundane and character based, because they used to market this as taking place on a ship that scans anomalies and charts space so that the Enterprise doesn't have to. I'm okay with this though and weirdly enough, if you look at the reactions in this thread, it might be closer to old Trek this way than it would have been.

That's a fair criticism. I'll admit I'm probably guilty of romanticizing Star Trek.

I actually like the concept of the "lower decks". It's just I'm not thrilled about the comedy aspect. Especially from this trailer, the comedy seems a bit uneven. It can't decide if wants to be juvenile humor or appeal to adults. Is the comedy suppose to appeal to Gen Xers and older Millennials? Or young Millennials and Zoomers?
 

CommodoreKong

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looks like Rick and Morty for CBS All Access, much like how Solar Opposites is Rick and Morty for Hulu once Hulu looses the rights to Rick and Morty.
 

PHOENIXZERO

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Oct 29, 2017
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The funniest part is that comments and votes are disabled, were they when this was posted or after negative backlash?
 

RoninZ

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Oct 27, 2017
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Eh, why not? There is Picard and Discovery if I want serious. This show seems like good fun honestly
 

Tukarrs

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I'm a big Star Trek fan but let me tell you that only 3-5 episodes out of every 20+ episode season are more than schlock. This franchise rarely makes you think of anything or challenge you in an interesting way. It's heavily anthologized one off schlocky adventures where people devolve onto cave men, get turned into children by transporter accidents or where supervillains are created because the computer acts more like a genie than an actual computer.

Rick Berman and Brannon Braga had no fucking clue what they were doing and they were hated by the Trek community in a similar fashion as the Game of Thrones showrunners are hated by their community.

Star Trek as a franchise is being put on this pedestal as something that it rarely ever was and I feel like CBS' new efforts are being compared to some fictional thing that people have built in their mind by watching the same 10-15 high quality episodes over and over.

The stuff that happens to the ship in Lower Decks is the same stuff that would happen to the Enterprise, Defiant or Voyager on a weekly basis. We just see it from the viewpoint of quirky outsiders who aren't involved in the decision making on the bridge. If anything I wish it was even more mundane and character based, because they used to market this as taking place on a ship that scans anomalies and charts space so that the Enterprise doesn't have to. I'm okay with this though and weirdly enough, if you look at the reactions in this thread, it might be closer to old Trek this way than it would have been.

Like the Zelda cycle, I've started to think that there's a Star Trek Cycle where the newest X gets a lot of hate from very critical fans. I remember when Voyager and Enterprise was absolutely despised. With time and distance, the anger dissipates because people have started to bake in that there's inconsistencies and flaws in those series.

Discovery and Picard both have flaws, but not much moreso than the other series in the franchise. Since Picard, I've noticed that the fandom have eased on the Discovery hate a tiny bit. (Some) Fans are just going to hyperfocus on every flaw and inconsistencies while finding the really dumb TNG episodes to be endearing.
 

Penny Royal

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm hoping the first episode has a 'Red Shirt on away mission' joke.

Looked fun. Some really po-faced people being all 'adult' ITT. Lighten up. Have fun. Stop treating a largely hammy SF show like its a religion where you get to burn heretics.
 

jdh96

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My disappointment with the current direction of Star Trek is pretty similar to how i feel about the new Paper Mario games, two different mediums yes but, both have the exact same problem where it feels like the glory days of the series peaked long ago and don't even feel like it's the same franchise anymore.
 

RC.

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Oct 25, 2017
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Vancouver, BC
Seriously, does anyone actually want this?

At this rate Nemesis will be dethroned as the absolute low point of the franchise.