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Sony needs to clarify the PS4 --> PS5 Cross-Save situation
- Thread starter jwk94
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There are cross save games between PS3 and PS4, and other platforms. They are few and far between, but they exist. It's up to the devs, evidently, but Smart Delivery games will 'just work', no matter what version you're playing. Providing an SDK to handle such things helps ensure there is more uptake for it. I hope Sony embrace it. Even if just to allow something like letting me start a new game plus with the character stats and equipment I already have in Spider-Man.
If a publisher wants to implement their own cross progression system they can and it will work.
If there's an issue here it'll be a PSN issue but not one that couldn't eventually be fixed.
one of the weirdest/coolest experiences in gaming was a year ago when I got a Series X. Bought Oblivion, loaded it up, saw a sync screen and my 360 save which i started in, what, 2006 loaded up. There i was, nearly 15 years later picking up exactly where i had left off (i started playing the game again during the end of the 360 era when sync became a thing)
so, cross platform saves are a big deal, IMO
Here is the thing though we know games can read other games games saves. We know this cause games like digimon cyberslueth hackers memory can read digimon cyberslueths game save. It's how you transfer seen digimon and medals. And these are totally different games/skus. So if it's not a encryption issue, then it seems like a policy issue but then there are games that get around that so what's the hold up then? Worst case I would of thought of would be the ps5 making a ps5 version save and you can't go back to PS4. Couldn't be a trophy reason cause saves could possibly break a games trophy system and they won't pop?
Jeez that was one big confusion. Ok Crisis averted then ah!
I thought it might be that different skus have different trophy lists and importing saves could break trophies but I'm pretty sure there's cross buy PS4/Vita games with seperate trophy lists and cross save
While true, at least we can expect it to work with Microsoft first party games but it doesn't appear to be true with Sony first party games. Even if it's up to the developer, shouldn't we expect Sony to support such features especially when the competition is doing so?
It would be highly ridiculous if save states don´t carry over...imagine someone playing Valhalla in november and upgrading to the PS5 in january, so he gets a free update for the game but is expected to start again? that wouldn´t make any sense to me tbh
games these days are not some 5 hr affairs, there needs to be the option to carry on where you left the game on PS4.
games these days are not some 5 hr affairs, there needs to be the option to carry on where you left the game on PS4.
There are only a couple first party sony games and we dont know if they are cross save yet. Spiderman is a remaster and we dont know anything about Miles morales yet.
Your right, there are a bunch of games that are coming with late updates. i cant see them updating the game and your save gets deleted. But yakuza 7 exist so i know.
Don't think so. To my knowledge everything is an upgrade to a PS5 version free or otherwise.
Edit: the Witcher 3 complete edition is described as a free update for owners of the PS4 game. But it's getting a standalone PS5 / XSX release so not sure if that's just a choice of words or what.
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I could have sworn it was known that Miles Morales wouldn't carry over too.
For something that is so "unclear" there are sure a lot of facts being tossed around!
Maybe MS making this so smooth will make Sony change some of their methods, but I doubt it.
Personally this has never impacted me but I can see how it would be frustrating to some. I only entered the PS universe with PS4, and 100% digital, so never had to deal with disc vs digital, or upgrades between gens etc.
Guess I will find out soon enough :)
Maybe MS making this so smooth will make Sony change some of their methods, but I doubt it.
Personally this has never impacted me but I can see how it would be frustrating to some. I only entered the PS universe with PS4, and 100% digital, so never had to deal with disc vs digital, or upgrades between gens etc.
Guess I will find out soon enough :)
Only thing that has been said about first party cross save and thats been about the remaster which means nothing really.
Ya, I wasn't mixing it up with that. I just swore I read that the save wouldn't carry over for Miles Morales too. My statement was based on that assumption so if it hasn't been clarified yet, I would hope that Sony would support such a feature on their own titles.
While i know the Spiderman remaster is not taking my PS4 save, what about say Miles Morales - if i buy the PS4 version at launch, half finish it, get a PS5 2nd shipment, get the free upgrade to the PS5 version am i going to have to start over again or is the save coming with me?
Like that is nuts if they don't carry over. The fact that i can play my half-finished saves from my 360 games on my Series X enhanced games just got more impressive.
Like that is nuts if they don't carry over. The fact that i can play my half-finished saves from my 360 games on my Series X enhanced games just got more impressive.
That would have been big news and we would have been talking about this a week ago instead of now if that was the case.
I could see that it works but you need PS Plus cloud saves for it. upload PS4 save file file into cloud, download file on PS5.
if it doesn´t work at all, as my example with Valhalla, and you have to start completely new when doing the upgrade to the PS5 there will be many pissed off players for sure.
Yeah, for existing games. Same for PS4 games on PS5.
The difference here is when a next gen version of a game comes out, either on Xbox or PS5, there's no guarantee your save from the old gen version will transfer over to next gen, because there's developer work involved there. Next gen versions are separate executables / binaries. Smart Delivery just combines both under one SKU but it's fundamentally still a different exe, just like on PS5.
They haven't said one way or the other for the PS4 version of Miles Morales.
The fact that Sony is not coming out and clarifying this with less than 50 days prior to launch is worrying tbh. Like, sure please pre-order Miles Morales on PS4 if you can't get a PS5 on launch, because don't worry you will get the next gen version for free. Excitedly unbox the PS5, load up Miles and try to pick up from where you left off and you might have to start over again? Like WTF?
I was not even worried this would be an issue because i thought surely this is just a straight next gen patch situation and saves will come accross similar as PS4-Ps4 Pro. Really hope they come out soon and confirm one way or another because frack buying PS4 Miles (or any further PS4 game that is getting a PS5 version really) if i am going to loose my save.
I didn't even really think of this. Perhaps we need to get a trial or something?
Well that's case closed as far as I'm concerned
We know online games like Avengers and Destiny are doing it and single player games like Miles Morales. It's obviously possible if devs want to do it.
why wouldnt they? its just a BC title. unless you have news of a remaster?
That's a confirmation as far as I'm concern.
Anyone offering a free upgrade to a next gen version with purchase of current gen should offer cross saves. Seems silly not to.
Should be the same for Ubisoft games or Dirt 5 then..."should" till there is a clear statement for that.
wait, doesn´t Destiny 2 also get a free PS5 version? they can´t expect people to start anew when playing that game on the PS5 lol
edit: ah i forgot that Destiny 2 has the saves on the Bungie server, this should be no problem then.
Seems to me that if a game shares the same SKU, like say Miles Morales, the saves will work for both. Yakuza situation feels like it will have 2 SKUs for PS4 and PS5, meaning that the saves wont cross. Its pretty much Witcher 3/Shadow of Mordor vs Complete Edition/GOTY all over again, that shit made no sense when it was literally the game on the same platform and yet because it was 2 SKUs, saves couldn't cross and there were 2 separate trophy lists. Sony did fix it eventually but I guess they had to start all over with the PS5 -_-
If you can plug in an external hard drive with your PS4 games on it, isn't it likely your saves will come with them?
Yeah same, i wanted to start Dirt 5 on PS4 and continue on PS5 and thought this is a given...but the thread here has me really thinking about it.
they should clarify this asap, it can´t be that this is up in the air, we are six weeks from launch..
good.
Yakuza 7 is weird in that you'd think upgrading for PS5 for free would mean cross saves. You'd think any game that is releasing now that has a free upgrade path will have cross saves. Valhalla and other Ubi games I'm assuming have cross saves.
This does feel like a case by case basis thing. MS does have the Smart Delivery branding that makes it clear, which titles under the branding have standardized BC features.
With the save progress tied to Bungie servers - there would be no issues there.
Oh I see. This is kind of lame situation. I'm guessing if devs allowed free upgrades, it wouldn't be a problem?
There doesn't seem to be anything that indicates the MM shares a Sku though?
Could have something to do with Y7 releasing on PS4 so long ago in Japan? Regardless the option is clearly there for devs to use.
Glad to see Miles saves confirmed to be coming over but man it sucks that this seems to have to be confirmed on a case by case basis because Yakuza already said it wasnt
just saw in another thread that Yakuza 7's save data will not transfer from PS4 to PS5. what a mess.
Nah it still would be. It's not really a problem either, it'a just that save compatibility between PS4 and PS5 or XB1 and XBS specific (not BC) versions of games isn't automatic, it needs to be programmed specifically into both versions of a game.
I mean is there any need for that? I don't blame people for wanting this to work - it should. While i think it is poor that this seems to be a case-by-case basis of whether it does work or not, at least Miles Morales as a first party game can have saves brought over.
It's seems to be publisher decision and maybe also related to SKUs. Unsure. But if the Miles saves can move over I don't know why Yakuza cannot.