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Sony is so fucking stupid.
Whoever is in charge of communication there have not been doing a good job for years now.
Also calling this an exploit is something considering Sony is the one that invented it. Honestly if you are going to do this shit either announce it from the beginning or don't announce anything until service is ready.
The lack of common sense and some critical thinking is just staggering.
Whoever is in charge of communication there have not been doing a good job for years now.
Also calling this an exploit is something considering Sony is the one that invented it. Honestly if you are going to do this shit either announce it from the beginning or don't announce anything until service is ready.
The lack of common sense and some critical thinking is just staggering.
Some people like to just bend over and take whatever these companies serve. No matter what it is. News flash, these giants doesn't give a shit about anyone.
Yes
It would be the same even if you weren't subscribed to PS+
No.
No that 'offer' still stands... if you can find a PS now card.
Dang. I got a 1 month code from Sony Rewards that I can no longer fully take advantage of, so selling it for a chunk of money is probably better than just getting 4-ish months of premium...
If you don't have PS NOW, it should work. That said, they have not sold PS NOW for months. There are very few available codes online and they are been sold at high prices.
Yes. During the month your sub ends you cna apply just one year of one month PS plus + 111 months of essentials automatically. Then everything else you have to choose manually.
This was NEVER supposed to compete with Gamepass. Gamepass is way better in every way. They have day 1 games, Sony wont.
Sony is so afraid that this service wont be worth the $120 value they put on it they wont even give a list of games included with the service a mere month and a half before launch . That's pathetic and why so many stacked at half off in the first place. I would never give full value to a service Sony doesn't even have enough confidence in themselves.
They updated the page. As we feared.
PlayStation®Plus | Hundreds of games to download and play, PlayStation classics, game trials and more
Join PlayStation Plus on an Essential, Extra or Premium membership plan and get hundreds of PS4 and PS5 games, online multiplayer, classics catalog, exclusive discounts and more.www.playstation.com
I have a PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now 1-month, 3-month or 12-month membership voucher. What will happen if I redeem it before the new PlayStation Plus service launches?
I have a PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now 1-month, 3-month or 12-month membership voucher. What will happen if I redeem it after the new PlayStation Plus service launches?
- If you are not a current member of the service the voucher is for, you can redeem your voucher using PS4, PS5, Web and Mobile App. Click here for instructions. If you join PlayStation Plus and still have an active membership when the new PlayStation Plus service launches, you will transition into PlayStation Plus Essential. If you join PlayStation Now and still have an active membership when the new PlayStation Plus service launches, you will automatically migrate to the PlayStation Plus Premium.
- If you currently have a PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now membership, due to changes we are making to the service prior to launch, you won't be able to redeem a voucher code for that service until your existing membership expires and deactivates, or after the new PlayStation Plus service launches in your area, whichever happens first. Rest assured that your voucher code is still valid. See next question for further information.
If you do not have an active membership:
If you are an existing customer:
- The PlayStation Plus voucher you redeem will provide you access to PlayStation Plus Essential for the length of time denoted on your original voucher. For example, a one-month PlayStation Plus voucher will provide access to one month of PlayStation Plus Essential.
- The PlayStation Now voucher you redeem will provide you access to PlayStation Plus Premium for the length of time equivalent to the monetary value of your original voucher. For example, a one-month PlayStation Now voucher will provide access to approximately 3 weeks of PlayStation Plus Premium. See conversion chart here for details.
edited: to include omitted question.
- The PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now voucher you redeem will be converted to a length of time on your current PlayStation Plus membership plan equivalent to the monetary value of the voucher you are redeeming. For example, a 1-month PlayStation Plus voucher will provide access to approximately 3 weeks of PlayStation Plus Extra or approximately 2.5 weeks of PlayStation Plus Premium. See conversion chart here for details.
Get fuuuucked.
It was foolish for sure, but I was excited for the classic games and I assumed I would want the service anyway so I went for it at a discounted price.
Well we called it. Staying quiet until Friday then waving the middle finger as off into the weekend they go...
Good will from PlayStation is nothing but hazy, distant memories... lockdown's Play At Home is about the only thing I can think of in recent memory.
They had the perfect blueprint on how to handle this transition from xbox, and they chose not to equal or better it but instead be greedy and self-defeating.
I cannot weigh up the big brain decision to burn good will, have yet more disatrous PR stories encircling the brand and sky it into row Z with an open goal from 6 yards... all to save what must be an absolute rounding error sum of money. Some bean counter suit probably thought they were justifying their existence here, but everyone up the chain signed off on this shit and decided this was the best way to communicate things. It's sad to see.
Good will from PlayStation is nothing but hazy, distant memories... lockdown's Play At Home is about the only thing I can think of in recent memory.
They had the perfect blueprint on how to handle this transition from xbox, and they chose not to equal or better it but instead be greedy and self-defeating.
I cannot weigh up the big brain decision to burn good will, have yet more disatrous PR stories encircling the brand and sky it into row Z with an open goal from 6 yards... all to save what must be an absolute rounding error sum of money. Some bean counter suit probably thought they were justifying their existence here, but everyone up the chain signed off on this shit and decided this was the best way to communicate things. It's sad to see.
Sure can't! I changed my Xbox account region the week I moved... 6 years ago. Can't change PSN though.
lol people stacking subs beyond a console generation is peak slickdeals/cag. All for it though.
Really shows how much Sony cares for their most 'loyal' fans. There are people trying to lock themselves into the Sony ecosystem for years and they're just giving them the middle finger. I personally wasn't stacking, because I'd much rather wait and see what the service has to offer. But if I was affected by this issue right now, I'd probably rethink about locking myself into their ecosystem. And I honestly doubt it's legal to refuse gift cards that are bought in stores, at least in Germany.
Rodelero
Here is a link for the US, since we had the discussion about the legality of it all. Europe typically is more harsh on companies and protects consumers even more.
Here is a link for the US, since we had the discussion about the legality of it all. Europe typically is more harsh on companies and protects consumers even more.
Sony should have announced this at the same time they announced how the subscription migration to the packages would work.
It was clear that people would run off to stack PS Plus subscriptions as a result of the announcement and this could have been avoided by communicating this properly.
It was clear that people would run off to stack PS Plus subscriptions as a result of the announcement and this could have been avoided by communicating this properly.
They've shown time and time again they don't give a flying fuck about the core fanbase.
But it's always entertaining to see fanboys bending over backwards to defend them while bitching about all the "negativity" around the subject.
I understand wanting to block this kind of thing, but the optics are bad and the way they've been handling this and things like Horizon's PS5 version's price is starting to turn into a series of less than remarkable PR situations, to put it mildly.
I miss how smooth they were for most of the PS4 cycle!
I miss how smooth they were for most of the PS4 cycle!
Microsoft isn't taking any loss on Xbox. Xbox is a profitable business.
I thought you said you aren't excusing Sony? What they've done hear is at least very, very, very questionable legally as you can read below. If it's not straight up illegal. So there is no excuse. Not for a billion dollars company like Sony with over 40 billion cash in hand (2021) and not for a one man company in the basement of grandma's house with 10€ cash in hand. So I dunno why you and others keep mentioning Microsoft?
If they don't wanna let people do the trick, then find another solution or stop selling cards Sony refuse to honor! They could've easily said from now on (say 20th April) all redeemed PS+ cards give you essential. If you had PS+ and Now beforehand, you get premium. Done.
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Rodelero
Here is a link for the US, since we had the discussion about the legality of it all. Europe typically is more harsh on companies and protects consumers even more.
IANAL, but I don't think the cards/codes in question are defined as gift cards. Microsoft's policy of limiting you people to a 36 month subscription would be in breach. I think there's a fairly clear distinction between a code that entitles to you to a certain amount of credit and a code that entitles you to a service for a given amount of time.
My feeling is that if there was a legal issue at play here it's going to surround one of:
1. Consumer vs retailers over refunds
2. Retailers vs Sony because these codes no longer work as they used to
3. Sony breaching ToS
Is this even supposed to be a real Gamepass competitor?
Because it really ain't. I was hoping for more. I'll be sticking with vanilla PS+.
Because it really ain't. I was hoping for more. I'll be sticking with vanilla PS+.
They should have announced a cut off date or make prior arrangements.
I forget how Xbox handled the transition. I want to say I remember them saying "after this date conversion starts"
I forget how Xbox handled the transition. I want to say I remember them saying "after this date conversion starts"
It seems really unnecessary from Sony. How many people would of taken advantage of this? I cant see it being so many that its becomes an issue.
You can still covert your live gold sub to ultimate for $1
Yes it is a competitor: it's timed demos vs full day one releases and sometimes deluxe edition editions of games for almost the same price.
You got the picture. -_-
Do you have any actual disagreement with what I wrote in the post?
I mean, that's absolutely not true. MS is way outspending what they take in on video games in order to grow.
And that's ok.
That's not what I meant. If you have gpu already and use a gold card it's not 1:1… I think they may have let you?
Just your behavior in this thread. Every time someone disproves your Sony defense you come up with something new.
Since they are treating them like cash-equivalent cards in their updated FAQ, they pretty implied they are gift cards now.
Its a 3->1 ratio AFAIK, so 1 year of Gold will net you 4 months of GPU if you still have a GPU sub active.
We don't need to go around and around on this, we can just look at one example. MS is spending $70 billion on AB, they are not making that investment back for a long, long time.
Which is totally fine. The internet obsession with Xbox making a profit has always been rediculous from both all sides. It's not, and that's good, MS is investing in the business to grow, as they should be.
They're trading a ton of good will for what is probably not a very large amount of subscription money.
Xbox still allows for stacking & converting your XBL Gold to GPU 1:1. Four years later. You just have to let your sub end and then renew with XBL Gold & convert it again to take advantage of the deal again.
If you have an active GPU subscription and try redeeming XBL Gold it has always converted to 4 months of GPU if I recall correctly.
Are you referring to the way that old fashioned PS+ & PS Now cards will convert to the different tiers? I see your point, but while they can't actually be converted to credit they don't seem to be gift cards.
Do you think Microsoft are breaking the rules listed on that site?
I don't give a fuck what microsoft is doing. The thread is about Sony advertising PS+ and PS Now members will get Premium for the duration of their longest sub. Then completely switching their policy and not accepting those codes or offering a refund. You all have been trying to go to crazy lengths to defend Sony in this matter. Like your latest defense "PS+ is not a giftcard."
Playstation disagrees.
PlayStation gift cards
Unlock a world of possibilities with pre-paid cards redeemable in PlayStation Store - the biggest PlayStation library in the world.
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Got it. I don't want to detail. I was just foggy on details when they first started program.
Maybe it was game pass to ultimate. There was something.