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Six Days in Fallujah ‘not trying to make a political commentary,’ creator says
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This deal is getting worse!
I hoped for Spec-ops, but seems like we are getting a game for larpers smh.
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I hoped for Spec-ops, but seems like we are getting a game for larpers smh.
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Funny that you sympathize with the soldiers but not the people on the houses.
She's awfully quiet now and telling people to DM her in order to get her take on the interview. Now suddenly she won't delve 100 tweets deep into the game, yet instead chooses to reserve voicing her opinion.
Don't worry though, you can read her take in their coverage of the game very soon in GI! I feel like she's being used due to her good nature and vet background to serve as mouthpiece for the game. They served her some drivel that hit the sweet spot and she took it and went with it.
I'm so peeved at her for serving as their PR and even attacking Daniel about all this. The man was completely right (to noones surprise).
I really enjoyed and respected her much needed articles and even defended her on Twitter in the past with the whole Cyberpunk crunch situation, but this story made me look back at that with a different perspective and made me realize that she's way too easily swayed to play into the dev's hands rather than being a critical journalist.
They wont, but the various digital store owners should outright refuse to have this game listed in their stores. Just imagine if Valve, Sony or Microsoft came out and said "no, fuck this propaganda piece of shit, not in our store!". Would be amazing.
I just saw the trailer and they sure as hell are marketing it like they are telling it how it "really" went down. Excluding the most fucked up parts about it because it's.... political?
So the dude behind the resurrection of a canceled controversial propaganda game who claims the thing is apolitical is actually a right wing shithead?
I was honestly willing to give this game a try, but the more news that comes out absolutely not a fucking chance.
Never fear, they won't ask us to be an insurgent? wtf?
"Don't worry, we won't ever ask you to be on the receiving end of US war crimes, and, in fact, we're going to write the war crimes out of the story entirely!"
There is surely an actual narrative story you could carve out of the absolute hell on earth that was this battle, but this sure as fuck ain't it. Fuck every last person working on this project. You could not possibly convince me this isn't a military psy-op at this point.
"Don't worry, we won't ever ask you to be on the receiving end of US war crimes, and, in fact, we're going to write the war crimes out of the story entirely!"
There is surely an actual narrative story you could carve out of the absolute hell on earth that was this battle, but this sure as fuck ain't it. Fuck every last person working on this project. You could not possibly convince me this isn't a military psy-op at this point.
best possible response
Also, I may be misremembering but I think whoever was promoting this game the first time also said something to this effect.
LMAO, of course they'd try the apolitical claim on this thing. Of course.
The game is politics incarnate, and both its death and resurrection were intensely politically motivated, but yeah, sure, not political at all.
I don't think even Ubisoft could say 6DIF was apolitical with a straight face.
The game is politics incarnate, and both its death and resurrection were intensely politically motivated, but yeah, sure, not political at all.
I don't think even Ubisoft could say 6DIF was apolitical with a straight face.
I mean the US Army twitch channel got btfo by a bunch of twitch chatters. Hard to replace those brave souls
She doesn't seem very happy about it, hopefully GI stops their coverage of it
But when you find out the reasons behind this game, you will feel ashamed of your words and deeds.
-Game Informer writer
ARE YOU ASHAMED YET?!?
Fuck this game. Really disappointed in the devs.
Easily the most absurd and disturbing use of the shitty phrase "our game is not political" yet. Its pure oohrahh propaganda and can get fucked.
I want to make it clear I'm not condoning harassment when I say that Liana really needs to stop showing her ass.
Oh sure Zhuge called it early, no one could've known at the time....except anyone with two braincells to rub. C'mon.
This is awesome.
Not what's happening but her reaction does speak that she was truly hoping for something positive and I'm glad to see it.
Hopefully people see that and don't fucking dog pile her or worse.
I can't wait for the mission where the player gets to use depleted uranium weapons which go on to cause generations of horrific birth defects for the next few decades.
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This game is really looking more and more like a CIA op with every new piece of info that comes out.
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This game is really looking more and more like a CIA op with every new piece of info that comes out.
It's an abhorrent piece of propaganda.
I feel this thread brings out a worrying, long-held gamer trope though which goes something like "this game just portrays the harsh reality of the soldier so it is not political because it's a simulator".
I remember reading this in video game mags in 1980s, and it still seems to be holding up.
The marriage between the US military and Hollywood has been thoroughly documented from the collaboration with Pentagon in Top Gun to the stated policy: "If you want full cooperation from the Navy, we have a considerable amount of power, because it's our ships, it's our cooperation, and until the script is in a form that we can approve, then the production doesn't go forward."
I think since America's Army there has been clear but less visible use of games as propaganda – I wonder if Call of Duties etc. benefit from military access and support.
But the main point I wanted to emphasize is simply that it's scary we think anything "shows the world as it is/was". There is always a lens – in the case of Six Days a Republican-donating, war crime denying lens – that chooses what to show and what to emphasize.
There is no such thing as an objective simulation game.
I feel this thread brings out a worrying, long-held gamer trope though which goes something like "this game just portrays the harsh reality of the soldier so it is not political because it's a simulator".
I remember reading this in video game mags in 1980s, and it still seems to be holding up.
The marriage between the US military and Hollywood has been thoroughly documented from the collaboration with Pentagon in Top Gun to the stated policy: "If you want full cooperation from the Navy, we have a considerable amount of power, because it's our ships, it's our cooperation, and until the script is in a form that we can approve, then the production doesn't go forward."
I think since America's Army there has been clear but less visible use of games as propaganda – I wonder if Call of Duties etc. benefit from military access and support.
But the main point I wanted to emphasize is simply that it's scary we think anything "shows the world as it is/was". There is always a lens – in the case of Six Days a Republican-donating, war crime denying lens – that chooses what to show and what to emphasize.
There is no such thing as an objective simulation game.
The audacity of this guy is staggering, but I'm sure this game will be the next shitty rallying point for the unfuckables of 4chan.
I know you're already banned, but because you're probably still reading this - your takes throughout this thread have had absolutely no nuance whatsoever. Discussing the political themes of a controversial war and the atrocities committed by those who participated, that's a nuanced conversation. You're here taking literal propaganda at face value and putting a lampshade over the inherent political themes. It's the most one-dimensional garglebrain position to take possible, but for some reason you think you're the smartest person in the room for taking it.
I literally can't think of anything more political than socioeconomics.
I'm on board with this. I'd be on board for this for basically any military shooter to be honest, but this game in particular.
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David Cage games make me laugh, they are pure entertainmentDavid Cage: Detroit has nothing to do with racism
Also David Cage:
Not only did Peter Tamte collaborate with CIA for training programs in 2005 for "Judgmental Shooting Simulator", he also had a game called Close Combat First To Fight that was collaboration with In-Q-Tel, a private venture group funded by the CIA. If a developer didn't want to make right wing military propaganda games, why have such a history?
‘Six Days in Fallujah’: A Bloody Iraq Battle and Video Game That Almost Was
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DESTINEER ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH IN-Q-TEL - In-Q-Tel
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Think to yourself - is the game likely to be House Clearing Simulator 2021?
Even innocuously phrasing it as "clearing houses" is so disingenuous. More like "crashing into civilian houses at gunpoint, going through their shit, and terrorizing/possibly murdering them".
They'll take some creative liberty with that one and make a totally original Blofeld-esque character who is an older female lawyer with short blond hair and a pantsuit. It'll be the most apolitical game ever made.
You have to understand that they were apolitical donations.
Man, I really hope he muted that tweet. Seriously should just private his stuff. The amount of literally insane and stupid responses he got is honestly baffling. Like literally no intelligence for miles.
Funny how dehumanising us brown people and brown men in particular is supposed to be this non political consensus.
Fuck off with that shit.
Also I'm glad that asshole who was justifying this is threadbanned.
Fuck off with that shit.
Also I'm glad that asshole who was justifying this is threadbanned.
Why do developers always say this?
Stand by your politics and your statements, or don't make them in the first place.
Have some fucking backbone.
If you have qualms about saying something that you are not sure of. Maybe you shouldn't say it in the first place.
Stand by your politics and your statements, or don't make them in the first place.
Have some fucking backbone.
If you have qualms about saying something that you are not sure of. Maybe you shouldn't say it in the first place.
Because deep down they know that their politics are abhorred by civilised society but they still want to express them and make money out of them.
