It's been mentioned that it is a 'full exclusive'. I don't think it's timed.Has there been any comment yet on whether it's a timed exclusive and for how long?
It's been mentioned that it is a 'full exclusive'. I don't think it's timed.Has there been any comment yet on whether it's a timed exclusive and for how long?
Official Staff CommunicationShenmue III backers were offered Steam keys in their backer surveys and the fundraiser concluded before the Epic Games Store even existed. There is no reason to argue that backers were not promised a Steam release with part of their pledge. We are not interested in entertaining the conversation to the contrary, so please drop this line of discussion.
I knew your original "whas goings on" post was disingenuous" Glad you got gotOK. I guess if you're going to break a monopoly you'll have to piss a few people off along the way?
Get out of here with this shit.I will respect the Mods wishes, but they are wrong in this case
That might explain why Shenmue III isn't in Xbox. Sweeney doesn't want PC Gamers to play this game using Game Pass.
Kickerstarter is dead to me, it's simply not a viable platform for funding games.
Yet another example of why people need to stop treating Kickstarter as a store. You aren't buying anything. You aren't entitled to anything.
When a project is successfully funded, the creator must complete the project and fulfill each reward. Once a creator has done so, they've satisfied their obligation to their backers.
the best long term effects of it would be that it fails miserably and then we never have to deal with pc storefront exclusivity ever againWonder what will be the long term effects of practices like this. Especially for niche games. Money upfront is good but it seems to attract the ire of many especially for Kickstarter projects where you have to backtrack for already promised reward.
They already had Sony and KS money.I am happy that Yu and his team have this safety net from the epic money hat and hopefully they'll get to make more games but I backed this game and will no not be able to play it as I am boycotting the epic store. Feels bad. So after all this time, after owning the original games and being so excited to finally get a sequel I don't get to play it. I guess I will buy it used on PS4 or I will wait for Steam. I presume they will be giving steam keys on release next year. I went from super hyped to super down. Worst E3 ever for me :(
I'll just say that despite being a backer who picked Steam and being fully aware of all of EGS's shortcomings, I'm not personally bothered by this exclusivity deal.
Hell, it might even result in the game being better than it otherwise would've been. Maybe the game was delayed because they got a sudden influx of Epic money and want to put it to good use. Or maybe the publisher's just pocketing it, who knows? Either way, I don't mind.
Gonna risk a ban, but can "STAFF" please just let people discuss. Do we really need the admins making all the arguments for peopleOfficial Staff CommunicationShenmue III backers were offered Steam keys in their backer surveys and the fundraiser concluded before the Epic Games Store even existed. There is no reason to argue that backers were not promised a Steam release with part of their pledge. We are not interested in entertaining the conversation to the contrary, so please drop this line of discussion.
Well I found this link on the Kickstarter that resends you the fangamer email to select your product, the question is, is it now too late for me to change from the physical steam disc to the ps4 disc? God, I am so angry at this needless situation, it's completely soured me on getting a sequel I have waited over half my life for.
It's why I ignore many of these concern posts. Constantly ignoring valid points in favour of confirming what they already believed in.I knew your original "whas goings on" post was disingenuous" Glad you got got
Stop kickstarting games people, the well is well and truly poisoned at this stage.
why do you think they would do thatI want to see Valve open the warchest up and go to war with Epic. Who can have the most exclusives? Only time and large amounts of $$$ will tell.
I want to see Valve open the warchest up and go to war with Epic. Who can have the most exclusives? Only time and large amounts of $$$ will tell.
There are plenty of actual PC backers here that are not happy. How kind of you.Sorry, coming to this late... what's the big deal with Shenmue and why does it matter that it's just another icon? Anyway, see you never in a PC thread but see you in the next exclusive thread! Cheers
Gonna risk a ban, but can "STAFF" please just let people discuss. Do we really need the admins making all the arguments for people
"it's just another store" -> "it's just another launcher" -> "it's just another icon"
What's the next step on the list of trying to make the EGS seem as trivial as possible
Kickerstarter is dead to me, it's simply not a viable platform for funding games.
How can you discuss facts other than to say, yes, it's true, backers were offered a Steam physical copy or Steam digital copy?
This is terrible for PC gaming.I want to see Valve open the warchest up and go to war with Epic. Who can have the most exclusives? Only time and large amounts of $$$ will tell.
There are plenty of actual PC backers here that are not happy. How kind of you.
Has there been any comment yet on whether it's a timed exclusive and for how long?
Whether or not a Steam release was promised to backers, and whether or not Kickstarter backers should expect to get anything they were promised (up to and including the game itself) are two separate discussions though, so I don't see how the post you quoted is in violation of the staff post.
I want to see Valve open the warchest up and go to war with Epic. Who can have the most exclusives? Only time and large amounts of $$$ will tell.
Nah, I'd rather they don't respond with buying up exclusives.I want to see Valve open the warchest up and go to war with Epic. Who can have the most exclusives? Only time and large amounts of $$$ will tell.
I want to see Valve open the warchest up and go to war with Epic. Who can have the most exclusives? Only time and large amounts of $$$ will tell.
Gonna risk a ban, but can "STAFF" please just let people discuss. Do we really need the admins making all the arguments for people
it is in Kickstarter faq that they must fulfill rewards.With what shit? Kickstarter clearly says the opposite of the Mods stance on their web page.
We do when people keep claiming things that definitely were true as not actually happening.Gonna risk a ban, but can "STAFF" please just let people discuss. Do we really need the admins making all the arguments for people
Official Staff CommunicationShenmue III backers were offered Steam keys in their backer surveys and the fundraiser concluded before the Epic Games Store even existed. There is no reason to argue that backers were not promised a Steam release with part of their pledge. We are not interested in entertaining the conversation to the contrary, so please drop this line of discussion.
"It's just an extra click!""it's just another store" -> "it's just another launcher" -> "it's just another icon"
What's the next step on the list of trying to make the EGS seem as trivial as possible
There are plenty of actual PC backers here that are not happy. How kind of you.
Official Staff CommunicationShenmue III backers were offered Steam keys in their backer surveys and the fundraiser concluded before the Epic Games Store even existed. There is no reason to argue that backers were not promised a Steam release with part of their pledge. We are not interested in entertaining the conversation to the contrary, so please drop this line of discussion.
It was designed for people to fund projects that might not get investment otherwise.
You can KS events, movies, and other things inherently not "pre-orderable."
Here's a KS for a cafe: https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ondon?ref=section-food-craft-featured-project
When you KS a game, you are gifting a developer cash to make the game. There are "rewards" which may include a preorder, but may not. It's very common to see a $30 reward that include a preorder, but a $10 reward that just includes the soundtrack or a thank-you.
I want to see Valve open the warchest up and go to war with Epic. Who can have the most exclusives? Only time and large amounts of $$$ will tell.
What contract? Where did you agree to a contract about the platform? What contract term was changed? If you mean a dropdown option, that's not a legal agreement.
Straight from Kickstarter.
At the same time, backers must understand that Kickstarter is not a store. When you back a project, you're helping create something new — not ordering something that already exists. There's a chance something could happen that prevents the creator from being able to finish the project as promised.
I Agree however that this is very shitty what they are doing
I will respect the Mods wishes, but they are wrong in this case
AgreedThat this even needs to be said (to people who are consciously ignoring it and are not simply uninformed) is pathetic.