Rumor: Microsoft has been in talks to acquire Bungie multiple times but they fell through each time due to Bungie's high price [Up: CEO Denies]

Landford · Sep 14, 2020

xJavontax said:
The studio is called 343 lol

y'all need to relax

Microsoft is right now hiring former Bungie developers/writers to steer 343 vision of Halo. Its clear that studio multiple atempts in trying to replicate Halo sucess failed every single time.

Every Halo from 343 dropped from the face of the earth in terms of popularity just some months after release. Destiny 2 is 3 years old now and its still played by some one million players daily. There is clearly a "secret formula" in play here.

isahn · Sep 14, 2020

Probably Destiny 3 is the kind of exclusive that is able to convince playstation fans without a gaming PC to buy an xbox (or finally build a gaming PC, lol)

kortvarsel · Sep 14, 2020

Landford said:
Every Halo from 343 dropped from the face of the earth in terms of popularity just some months after release. Destiny 2 is 3 years old now and its still played by some one million players daily. There is clearly a "secret formula" in play here.

They are also two completely different games.

TheHunter · Sep 14, 2020

Bold One said:
It's been one expansion.

It was solid, not a home run, in that time, they self published, moved an entire ecosystem from blizzard to steam, changed to "f2p" and introduced massive system changes to their game whilst also apparently creating a brand new IP on the side.

I don't think it will happen either, but this, 'helpless Bungo needs a publisher or else they flounder narrative has gain too much traction' ijs.

I mean, their output has suffered from the split, that is undeniable.

Skeff · Sep 14, 2020

I don't see what MS would gain from Bungie, unless they could convince them to work on Halo but...I really don't think they want to and could see a talent exodus if they made them. Honestly would be a better buy for pretty much anyone else in the industry, in particular Sony who are lacking an exclusive FPS of quality.

Kami · Sep 14, 2020

After all that talk about independence.

Pancracio17 · Sep 14, 2020

Honolulu Blue said:
There are some credible concerns amongst the Destiny community about Bungie's current ability to create the content and make the changes necessary to fulfill Destiny's potential. Concerns that many don't expect even this years expansion to fix.

People are saying money but it's about resources too.

Money directly translates to resources, so its the same thing

Landford · Sep 14, 2020

TheHunter said:
I mean, their output has suffered from the split, that is undeniable.

They also went on record that kind of output from the first season pass was never going to happen again because it was unhealthy and it was burning out staff. So theres maybe a slight change in philosophy happening besides the loss of two studios.

Shairi · Sep 14, 2020

TheGhost said:
I rather them be owned by Xbox. At least then we know Destiny will be on all platforms.

wonder how this makes 343i feel.

We wouldn't know that at all. I don't know why people make this Minecraft comparison when the target audience for both games is completely different. Hellblade 2 will not be available on all platforms, nor will a The Outer Worlds 2.

So we can't be sure that a Destiny Sequel would be released on all platforms. It is more likely that it wouldn't.

Azerth · Sep 14, 2020

Destiny would moat likely be like minecraft where its still everwhere but anything new from bungie would be xbox/pc only

TheChronic2060 · Sep 14, 2020

Brohan said:
Bungie tried so hard to become independent from Microsoft in the past. I think their high price might just reflect their wish to stay independent.

Might be their owner who sets the price, and not Bungie. And they might want to sell at their investment + expected roi from Bungie according to their timeline.

Just doubt its Bungie who can say how much they are worth.

TheGhost · Sep 14, 2020

Shairi said:
We wouldn't know that at all. I don't know why people make this Minecraft comparison when the target audience for both games is completely different. Hellblade 2 will not be available on all platforms, nor will a The Outer Worlds 2.

So we can't be sure that a Destiny Sequel would be released on all platforms. It is more likely that it wouldn't.

A destiny sequel? Yeah why not, besides D2 is not going anywhere for the next 3 years at least.
A new IP? Won't be on a PS platform. But would still show up on steam.

Brohan · Sep 14, 2020

TheChronic2060 said:
Might be their owner who sets the price, and not Bungie. And they might want to sell at their investment + expected roi from Bungie according to their timeline.

Just doubt its Bungie who can say how much they are worth.

Who owns Bungie?

Komo · Sep 14, 2020

Could see Destiny taking turns for the better under Microsoft honestly.

tzare · Sep 14, 2020

i thought MS only wanted to adquire studios that weren't financially 'healthy' and may have some trouble to develop their games. Not Bungie's situation afaik.

H.Cornerstone · Sep 14, 2020

Skeff said:
I don't see what MS would gain from Bungie, unless they could convince them to work on Halo but...I really don't think they want to and could see a talent exodus if they made them. Honestly would be a better buy for pretty much anyone else in the industry, in particular Sony who are lacking an exclusive FPS of quality.

I think Sony realized it's futile to try to make an exclusive FPS when COD, Destiny, Battlefield, Overwatch, Apex Legends and (somewhat) Doom are so popular.

nitewulf · Sep 14, 2020

Sausage_Poison said:
MS will acquire everything in the end, aren't they?

Not if Nvidia has anything to say about it :)

NuKER · Sep 14, 2020

I think the main focus of this deal is on their new ip. Destiny is just a service for the next year's, not a full fledge new title (Destiny 3).

JINX · Sep 14, 2020

Eurogamer is corroborating:

Microsoft held talks to buy Bungie - report

UPDATE 4.50pm UK: Bungie has attempted to douse reports it has discussed acquisition with Microsoft. Replying on Twitte…

www.eurogamer.net

Microsoft and Bungie have held acquisition talks, according to a new report which Eurogamer's own sources can corroborate.

I've independently heard these talks have taken place, driven on Bungie's side by a desire to raise new funds for the studio, its projects and staff.

Killer · Sep 14, 2020

Buy them and make them save Halo pls.

Detective · Sep 14, 2020

Cranster said:
Making better games than Destiny.

TheChronic2060 · Sep 14, 2020

Brohan said:
Who owns Bungie?

My bad, I thought they were owned by Netease but that was just an investment. They would probably want that back, but then Bungie arent owned by anyone. Sorry for the confusion.

Absent · Sep 14, 2020

I've independently heard these talks have taken place, driven on Bungie's side by a desire to raise new funds for the studio, its projects and staff.

Oh.

cmChimera · Sep 14, 2020

NuKER said:
I think the main focus of this deal is on their new ip. Destiny is just a service for the next year's, not a full fledge new title (Destiny 3).

Do you mean new ip as in something other than Destiny, or do you mean owning Destiny 3?

NuKER · Sep 14, 2020

cmChimera said:
Do you mean new ip as in something other than Destiny, or do you mean owning Destiny 3?

The other supposed game that's not destiny. There was some info about it that I recall reading, I'm on mobile but I guess it's searchable.

Seijuro · Sep 14, 2020

Getting Bungie back and Destiny 3 on Xbox/PC exclusively would be a real megaton and one BIG 3rd party property that will sell loads and loads of the Xbox Series.

Dreams-Visions · Sep 14, 2020

Okami. said:
After all that talk about independence.

I mean, there is always a price.

groganos · Sep 14, 2020

NuKER said:
The other supposed game that's not destiny. There was some info about it that I recall reading, I'm on mobile but I guess it's searchable.

I think it was called something like "matter" and apparently it's like comedic and whimsical.

JINX · Sep 14, 2020

Landford said:
Microsoft is right now hiring former Bungie developers/writers to steer 343 vision of Halo. Its clear that studio multiple atempts in trying to replicate Halo sucess failed every single time.

Every Halo from 343 dropped from the face of the earth in terms of popularity just some months after release. Destiny 2 is 3 years old now and its still played by some one million players daily. There is clearly a "secret formula" in play here.

What are you on about? They didn't hire any former Bungie Developers, they asked a Bungie veteran who already works at Xbox as a creative director/executive producer (5 years) to help assist the team in shipping next year.

TheGhost · Sep 14, 2020

Okami. said:
After all that talk about independence.

Yeah but they are now lacking a lot of dev power and money they had from activism on and it's shows in the yearly content.

though this most recent season is great

Estarossa · Sep 14, 2020

Didn't Bungie just buy themselves out of Activision? This is too amusing.

Skeff · Sep 14, 2020

H.Cornerstone said:
I think Sony realized it's futile to try to make an exclusive FPS when COD, Destiny, Battlefield, Overwatch, Apex Legends and (somewhat) Doom are so popular.

I dont think they want to compete with those, just offer something to that crowd, FPS has always been a weakness in the playstation studios portfolio. But we are getting off topic.

Interesting tidbit about bungie potentially driving these talks though.

hydruxo · Sep 14, 2020

Bungie isn't going to get acquired by anyone after going through all the trouble of going independent for a second time.

christocolus · Sep 14, 2020

for all we know they could still be in talks right now. lol

Sydle · Sep 14, 2020

Bungie would round out the Xbox AAA stable nicely. Can't help but wonder how different things could have been had Xbox let Bungie move on from Halo all those years ago.

Now that WB fell through it seems like a no-brainer for MS to buy Bungie and let them continue with Destiny 2 and build their next big new IP as an exclusive.

I wonder what other publishers Bungie has been in talks with and what price they're asking.

Kappakerby · Sep 14, 2020

Gay Bowser said:
I can't believe I have to say this, but Disney…is not going to buy Microsoft.

GOBankingRates' Evaluation of
Disney Net Worth
$128.8B

GOBankingRates' Evaluation of Microsoft Net Worth
$519,875,667

I was mainly being facetious - poking fun at Disney's forever buying up of anything and everything they can get their hands on. But, in reality, Disney could buy Microsoft as well as large parts of Europe if they wanted to.

kickz · Sep 14, 2020

lol, I guess maybe then we will get a good Halo again

hydruxo · Sep 14, 2020

Komo said:
Could see Destiny taking turns for the better under Microsoft honestly.

Not really. Wouldn't make any sense when Destiny is a multi-plat live service title.

Ryan. · Sep 14, 2020

Landford said:
I think its improbable, but you bet that the second Bungie gets under the MS Umbrella, 343 is never touching a single Halo product ever again.

Everyone knows that's not how it's going to work.

They'll change management before they prevent the studio that was made by MS specifically to work on Halo (hence being named after 343 Guilty Spark) to handle anything on the franchise again.

Gay Bowser · Sep 14, 2020

Kappakerby said:
GOBankingRates' Evaluation of
Disney Net Worth
$128.8B

GOBankingRates' Evaluation of Microsoft Net Worth
$519,875,667

I was mainly being facetious - poking fun at Disney's forever buying up of anything and everything they can get their hands on. But, in reality, Disney could buy Microsoft as well as large parts of Europe if they wanted to.

What? MSFT has a market cap of 1.58T. Microsoft is worth about six times what Disney is. No, Disney could not buy them.

That "evaluation" is literally off by three orders of magnitude. The fuck?

Sydle · Sep 14, 2020

hydruxo said:
Not really. Wouldn't make any sense when Destiny is a multi-plat live service title.

Minecraft stayed multi-play and tgrew significantly after Xbox acquired Mojang.

Chibs · Sep 14, 2020

Strange story.
Why would they quit Microsoft, then go to Activision, then go independent, only to go back to Microsoft again?

groganos · Sep 14, 2020

Kappakerby said:
GOBankingRates' Evaluation of
Disney Net Worth $128.8B

GOBankingRates' Evaluation of Microsoft Net Worth $519,875,667

I was mainly being facetious - poking fun at Disney's forever buying up of anything and everything they can get their hands on. But, in reality, Disney could buy Microsoft as well as large parts of Europe if they wanted to.

Ummm is that source saying Microsoft has a net worth of only 518 million cause im pretty sure that's like about a trillion and a half off of its net market cap.
Edit: beaten

TheJackdog · Sep 14, 2020

Kappakerby said:
GOBankingRates' Evaluation of
Disney Net Worth
$128.8B

GOBankingRates' Evaluation of Microsoft Net Worth
$519,875,667

I was mainly being facetious - poking fun at Disney's forever buying up of anything and everything they can get their hands on. But, in reality, Disney could buy Microsoft as well as large parts of Europe if they wanted to.

that isnt how net worth works....
or market caps
or liquidity
or buying companies
or pure common business sense

Landford · Sep 14, 2020

Ryan. said:
Everyone knows that's not how it's going to work.

They'll change management before they prevent the studio that was made by MS specifically to work on Halo (hence being named after 343 Guilty Spark) to handle anything on the franchise again.

Thats also probable. I can see MS being very unhappy with 343 souring the Xbox launch like they did.

Shoreu · Sep 14, 2020

FuturaBold said:
Just pay Bungie a ton of cash to take over the development of Halo.

I don't think they could make a solid Halo at this point

W17LY · Sep 14, 2020

I think MS will eventually acquire Bungie and put them on Halo once again.

343i might be in danger if it happens.

Pancracio17 · Sep 14, 2020

Ryan. said:
Everyone knows that's not how it's going to work.

They'll change management before they prevent the studio that was made by MS specifically to work on Halo (hence being named after 343 Guilty Spark) to handle anything on the franchise again.

Yeah. If MS does end up buying Bungie, I think Bungie and 343 will have a lot of crossover and communicate a lot but they will be different studios with 343 working on Halo.

Ryan. · Sep 14, 2020

Landford said:
Thats also probable. I can see MS being very unhappy with 343 souring the Xbox launch like they did.

As if MS isn't also to blame for not stepping in sooner to prevent this.

TitlePending · Sep 14, 2020

I thought Bungie left MS BECAUSE they wanted to do something besides Halo.

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