Uh, Neoliberals are the first to see what the problem here is of companies manipulating the market lolwow from AOC to Trump, thats a broad coalition right there.
Meanwhile Neo-liberals
Great, thanks for the info. I'll look into other options.
we're not talking shorting in general. We are talking shorting in the context of this GME stock. 138% IS market manipulation on its face because you're literally shorting shares that don't exist to artificially lower the price of the stock.Shorting does not inherently meet that definition. It's possible to hold such a position without aiming to induce the purchase/sale by others. It *can* do that as an effect of market making, but just because someone affects the market in a way does not make it an induction to buy/sell on it's face.
I can't believe I'm seeing that. All Apps and groups restricting trading are going to get fucked.
Hell yeah! We going to break even boys! The best way to break.
Uh, Neoliberals are the first to see what the problem here is of companies manipulating the market lol
What I'm seeing is most of these brokerages use Citadel for transactions processing, Citadel owns Melvin, a hedge up to its eyeballs in GME shorts.I can't believe I'm seeing that. All Apps and groups restricting trading are going to get fucked.
Latam? Etoro?new page post - gme can still be found on
USA - ETRADE, FIDELITY, TDAMERITRADE, VANGUARD, CHASE
CANADA - TD, WEALTHSIMPLE
UK - FREETRADE PLUS, INTERACTIVE BROKER, DEGIRO
NORDICS - NORDNET
I think Melvin is more likely to go to GameStop and ask them to issue more stock and sell to them rather than cover these with the market rn. ( I don't think that's gonna happen, just saying they'll be crafty)The entire goal was to hold long enough and develop enough of a class conscious grassroots push that Melvin is forced to hold the bag.
Even then I don't think it necessarily fits. Just because it has an effect, perhaps even a predictable one, does not then automatically mean that the purpose of the position was to induce others into selling. Maybe the shorts just think it's going to massively tank. That it's with stocks which don't exist is kinda besides the point; if such a thing was so clearly inherently illegal that layfolk could spot it (as least me; I'm not a lawyer but you might be?) it just wouldn't be possible in the first place to short that much. What's more, who would get on the hook for that? I don't think that 138% was all one company.we're not talking shorting in general. We are talking shorting in the context of this GME stock. 138% IS market manipulation on its face because you're literally shorting shares that don't exist to artificially lower the price of the stock.
no it was several companies all with business ties to each other.Even then I don't think it necessarily fits. Just because it has an effect, perhaps even a predictable one, does not then automatically mean that the purpose of the position was to induce others into selling. Maybe the shorts just think it's going to massively tank. What's more, who would get on the hook for that? I don't think that 138% was all one company.
Sold my NAKD yesterday at $1.10, was beating myself up for selling to early, after today I'm happy I was able to sell yesterday.Oof, went with Robinhood last night to buy some NAKD and AMC, woke up this morning, my NAKD buys when through, but the AMC was cancelled. Though NAKD is currently down, oh well.
Why would anyone trust them after this?I can't believe I'm seeing that. All Apps and groups restricting trading are going to get fucked.
Yeah I'm not sure how anyone is surprised. The rules are bent for them. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone buying these stocks gets their investments nullified.
Thanks for this.USA - ETRADE, FIDELITY, TDAMERITRADE, VANGUARD, CHASE
CANADA - TD, WEALTHSIMPLE
UK - FREETRADE PLUS, INTERACTIVE BROKER, DEGIRO
NORDICS - NORDNET
Living up to that user name.I used to work in marker regulation. This is a dumb take. Manipulive trading activity has been illegal since 1934.
This isn't a people revolution, it's grifters making money on rubes who don't understand the rules of the markets and thought it was the wild west when it's heavily heavily regulated.
Maybe I should just go through Vanguard and put in $100 out of my Roth IRA towards something.
Libertarians: "This is how you're supposed to fuck over the rich in a free market economy, use the rules of the free market against them!"
Shorting is not inherently designed to influence others, regardless of it's scope. It is not a mechanism for lowering the price of a stock, or else everyone would do it and massively shorted stocks like Tesla wouldn't have had the growth we've seen (for instance). It's a position that it will lower; not a mechanism in and of itself to make that happen.I am not sure why people are being obtuse or trying to obfuscate language that is literally clear in what the def of shorting stock and market manipulations entails. Shorting is a specific mechanism for lowering price of a stock, to influence other investors to make a choice on the new price thus driving price down further and tanking a business. The person profiting is the person shorting. The defense of it is literally wallstreet spaghetti logic in action.
no it was several companies all with business ties to each other.
I believe if you take money out of your Roth IRA incurs some penalties.
Fidelity, bank brokerages.
You can sell pretty much everywhere. They want you to sell, it's just overloaded servers and things stopping thatWait seriously? How can this be legal? So they are literally screwing with people that bought the stock yesterday and now can't sell?
Maybe that revolution will actually happen this year
So what should someone interested in kicking a couple hundred in expendable money around do? Find somewhere to buy gme still? Helping to screw over hedge funds would be nice, mostly interested in getting a feel for how it works and getting set up while something interesting is happening.
GME is available for purchase on ETrade again, but I was unable to buy any for some time there.
I don't think he means actually withdrawing it. Just selling some fund or stock he has to get $100 in the fund to buy something with.
And even then you are allowed to withdraw all your contributions from you Roth IRA.
You can withdraw contributions you made to your Roth IRA anytime, tax- and penalty-free.
Withdrawals from a Roth IRA you've had less than five years.
If you take a distribution of Roth IRA earnings before you reach age 59½ and before the account is five years old, the earnings may be subject to taxes and penalties. You may be able to avoid penalties (but not taxes) in the following situations:
- You use the withdrawal (up to a $10,000 lifetime maximum) to pay for a first-time home purchase.
- You use the withdrawal to pay for qualified education expenses.
- You use the withdrawal for qualified expenses related to a birth or adoption.
- You become disabled or pass away.
- You use the withdrawal to pay for unreimbursed medical expenses or health insurance if you're unemployed.
- The distribution is made in substantially equal periodic payments.1