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pink

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
6,121
new page post - gme can still be found on


USA - ETRADE, FIDELITY, TDAMERITRADE, VANGUARD, CHASE

CANADA - TD, WEALTHSIMPLE

UK - FREETRADE PLUS, INTERACTIVE BROKER, DEGIRO

NORDICS - NORDNET
 

disparate

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,018
wow from AOC to Trump, thats a broad coalition right there.

Meanwhile Neo-liberals

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Uh, Neoliberals are the first to see what the problem here is of companies manipulating the market lol
 

EloquentM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,631
Shorting does not inherently meet that definition. It's possible to hold such a position without aiming to induce the purchase/sale by others. It *can* do that as an effect of market making, but just because someone affects the market in a way does not make it an induction to buy/sell on it's face.
we're not talking shorting in general. We are talking shorting in the context of this GME stock. 138% IS market manipulation on its face because you're literally shorting shares that don't exist to artificially lower the price of the stock.
 

Gwarm

Member
Nov 13, 2017
2,187
I'm glad I dropped Robinhood last year. They kept having technical glitches that caused people to lose money, and it felt like they were run by complete amateurs, so I left them entirely.
 

Wingfan19

Layout Designer
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
9,780
Bothell WA
Oof, went with Robinhood last night to buy some NAKD and AMC, woke up this morning, my NAKD buys when through, but the AMC was cancelled. Though NAKD is currently down, oh well.
 

Tater

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,598
GME is available for purchase on ETrade again, but I was unable to buy any for some time there.
 

NookSports

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,228
The entire goal was to hold long enough and develop enough of a class conscious grassroots push that Melvin is forced to hold the bag.
I think Melvin is more likely to go to GameStop and ask them to issue more stock and sell to them rather than cover these with the market rn. ( I don't think that's gonna happen, just saying they'll be crafty)
 

Deleted member 5359

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,326
All aboard the socialism train.



He's right. The cons (and quite a few libs) would rather light themselves on fire than give people a lousy $2,000 stimulus as we approach a year of millions being unable to work or survive due to a global pandemic. The USA is NOT a normal country. I can't emphasize this enough. Americans are getting absolutely railed compared to citizens of most other wealthy nations.
 

Jakisthe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,667
we're not talking shorting in general. We are talking shorting in the context of this GME stock. 138% IS market manipulation on its face because you're literally shorting shares that don't exist to artificially lower the price of the stock.
Even then I don't think it necessarily fits. Just because it has an effect, perhaps even a predictable one, does not then automatically mean that the purpose of the position was to induce others into selling. Maybe the shorts just think it's going to massively tank. That it's with stocks which don't exist is kinda besides the point; if such a thing was so clearly inherently illegal that layfolk could spot it (as least me; I'm not a lawyer but you might be?) it just wouldn't be possible in the first place to short that much. What's more, who would get on the hook for that? I don't think that 138% was all one company.
 

EloquentM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,631
I am not sure why people are being obtuse or trying to obfuscate language that is literally clear in what the def of shorting stock and market manipulations entails. Shorting is a specific mechanism for lowering price of a stock, to influence other investors to make a choice on the new price thus driving price down further and tanking a business. The person profiting is the person shorting. The defense of it is literally wallstreet spaghetti logic in action.

The fact that all these fucking retail investment firms stopped allowing you to buy the stocks should say enough. It only constitutes manipulation to the feds when people they don't like (in this case lower class and middle class) get the upper hand against their friends.

Even then I don't think it necessarily fits. Just because it has an effect, perhaps even a predictable one, does not then automatically mean that the purpose of the position was to induce others into selling. Maybe the shorts just think it's going to massively tank. What's more, who would get on the hook for that? I don't think that 138% was all one company.
no it was several companies all with business ties to each other.
 

Zeusy

Avenger
Oct 30, 2017
1,821
WA
Oof, went with Robinhood last night to buy some NAKD and AMC, woke up this morning, my NAKD buys when through, but the AMC was cancelled. Though NAKD is currently down, oh well.
Sold my NAKD yesterday at $1.10, was beating myself up for selling to early, after today I'm happy I was able to sell yesterday.
 

Traxus

Spirit Tamer
Member
Jan 2, 2018
5,212
Brokerages going to bat for their hedge fund masters. Fuck them.

Switching to Chase for now.
 

Steel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,220
2021. The year hell actually froze over!!?!?!?
Libertarians: "This is how you're supposed to fuck over the rich in a free market economy, use the rules of the free market against them!"
Socialists: "This is the people reclaiming the wealth wrongfully stolen from them!"
Everyone else: "WOOT, MONEY! FUCK THE HEDGEFUNDS!"
 

Jakisthe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,667
I am not sure why people are being obtuse or trying to obfuscate language that is literally clear in what the def of shorting stock and market manipulations entails. Shorting is a specific mechanism for lowering price of a stock, to influence other investors to make a choice on the new price thus driving price down further and tanking a business. The person profiting is the person shorting. The defense of it is literally wallstreet spaghetti logic in action.


no it was several companies all with business ties to each other.
Shorting is not inherently designed to influence others, regardless of it's scope. It is not a mechanism for lowering the price of a stock, or else everyone would do it and massively shorted stocks like Tesla wouldn't have had the growth we've seen (for instance). It's a position that it will lower; not a mechanism in and of itself to make that happen.

Business ties? Who made up that 138%? We know Melvin did; what % did they have? Point72 bailed them out, but Point72 has a long position.
 

JHoNNy1OoO

Member
Oct 25, 2017
920
Miami, FL
Oct 27, 2017
4,432
So what should someone interested in kicking a couple hundred in expendable money around do? Find somewhere to buy gme still? Helping to screw over hedge funds would be nice, mostly interested in getting a feel for how it works and getting set up while something interesting is happening.
 
Oct 29, 2017
350
I don't think he means actually withdrawing it. Just selling some fund or stock he has to get $100 in the fund to buy something with.

And even then you are allowed to withdraw all your contributions from you Roth IRA.

You can withdraw contributions you made to your Roth IRA anytime, tax- and penalty-free.

I guess this is what i was thinking about:

Withdrawals from a Roth IRA you've had less than five years.
If you take a distribution of Roth IRA earnings before you reach age 59½ and before the account is five years old, the earnings may be subject to taxes and penalties. You may be able to avoid penalties (but not taxes) in the following situations:


  • You use the withdrawal (up to a $10,000 lifetime maximum) to pay for a first-time home purchase.
  • You use the withdrawal to pay for qualified education expenses.
  • You use the withdrawal for qualified expenses related to a birth or adoption.
  • You become disabled or pass away.
  • You use the withdrawal to pay for unreimbursed medical expenses or health insurance if you're unemployed.
  • The distribution is made in substantially equal periodic payments.1​

Don't know if that applies to this person or not