Can't word it better than this.They're actually painting her comment as "prejudice", holy shit.
As if I needed any more reason to avoid their omega tacky-ass garbage products.
I'm seeing a victim of abuse responding with understandable negative sentiment towards her abusers and Razer then pathetically siding with the abusers against the victim. Followed by a predictable dose of victim blaming from "gamers".
The semantics of a tweet shouldn't be the focus of discussion here at all, I just hope her and her family can stay strong through this.
If she was talking about it after being harrased then OF FUCKING COURSE she is referring to the idiots harrassing her and if anyone is offended by that I seriously don't understand. Even if it is generalization it makes sense in this context AND the group that is being generalized IS NOT discriminated in any way in real life so really, that's not the same as sexism towards women. It's really simple.
Dont tell me to wake up while trying to force your notions of the Brazilian people on meThe average christian and conservative citizen you mean? C'mon, are you talking from the same Brazil? The majority is christian or conservative, man! Wake up!
Yeah at first I was like why all these guys getting banned and for saying we should generalize? But it's pretty obvious what the phrase implies and it's not like she went out of her way to rip ALL men specifically. Gotta use a little common sense ppl and of course some empathy. I work at a NJ turnpike and the first time a group of women drove by and basically treated me as sex object "take off your hat, stand up and let me see you, etc etc.." all I could think of is "is this how women feel all the time?" Fooook this!I'm surprised at how many people on here actually get offended by the "men are trash" statement.
I know I'm not trash, I also fully understand what people mean when they make that statement. If it offends you, it's time for some introspection and mayhaps some empathy towards those slightly less fortunate.
She's 100% right. Men sure love passing blame around but taking collective responsibility and holding each other accountable? Nah that's generalization mate!To better contextualize the thread, here's what I could gather from this:
Her original tweet (direct translation below):
"There will always be a fucking man to talk shit and sexualize women even when a woman is making a joke, right? That's why men are trash."
- "Gee, Gabi, you don't need to generalize either :("
- "Yes, I do. When we say this stuff, men say "hey, don't generalize, not all men" and on their FIRST opportunity, act like assholes towards a girl. Men that aren't TRASH are the exception, not the majority. We need to generalize so these sons of bitches wake up."
She apologized not long after these tweets, though, but she kept being harassed (of course). She and her family are receiving death threats, with people posting places she goes to on Chan.
Deserved. As a man I take personal offense by her words. She should learn to defense herself without using generalizations. There are people and people.
you're wrong tho, All women are trash
now let's see who gets the ban hammer, come on mods, prove me wrong
The misandry in the thread is disgusting. Let's hide behind all the guys harassing her with dick pictures and lash our at all males, and any male who disagrees with any male insult is "fragile" and gets banned.
Its absolutely terrible that she is dealing with death threats but cant the scope of the discussion be kept within the scope of the story, or is the concensus around her that all men are thrash?
I'm fine with fragile, and I'm very happy that I'm not the kind of person that considers it fine to throw around sweeping generalisations as is happening in this thread.
Do we have to start apologising for being male now?
I'm sorry, but the Twitter harassment AND this thread is fucking silly. If I say "all men are trash", then as a man, you have a right to be offended, and should very well be offended. Fuck how your trash ass feels. There is no situation in which I'm saying "all (any group) is trash" without generalizing, and it's probably because I've been subject to or witnessed so much trash behavior from men that it's hard to believe otherwise.
HOWEVER, you aren't gonna use that as a launchpad to ignore the real, ACTUAL problem of men being trash to women. And even being a person who has made peace with the consequences that statement might bring doesn't justify anyone actually proving me right. In addition to that, I'd be DAMNED if anyone made a generalization about a group of people that I identify with and was told that I couldn't take offense "becoz context"; I literally have to deal with people at work using that lame ass excuse to justify some dumb shit they said about "the blacks" or some dusty ass black guy saying some weird shit about all black women because of "their personal experiences"...
I gotta take a fuckin' long ass break from this site...
My God, you didn't actually read any of what I just typed, did you? You couldn't have possibly reached THAT conclusion, if you did...Stop. With. The. False. Equivalence.
You are comparing fucking RACISM to calling men trash? Are you fucking kidding me?
THE POOR MALE GAMERS.. THEY ARE SO MARGINALIZED...
Cant you see how fucking stupid that sounds? Are you one of those that support straight pride and believes in reverse racism too?
So accurate it hurts.My God, you didn't actually read any of what I just typed, did you? You couldn't have possibly reached THAT conclusion, if you did...
On what planet does "people should get offended when offensive things are said about them" translate to "yes, racism and talking about male gamers are equally bad"? The fact that you're being so extra right now makes me believe you're one of those people that don't belong to any marginalized group whatsoever but really makes a point of overdoing it when you try to speak FOR us. It's really annoying and it makes you look like a fucking clown, please stop...
She was a brand ambassador I believe. Not sure if she was at that point.So I never got an answer before; was she associated with Razer when she made the statements in question?
What do you think? I was working, not doing turism.Dont tell me to wake up while trying to force your notions of the Brazilian people on me
Also on all your travels did you encounter truly common people or just privilieged ones?
Reset the clockSo accurate it hurts.
ThIs thread is baffling; but then again, its ERA.
While that's true, I think you are ignoring that the average brazilian has almost no education, half of our citizens don't have even basic sanitation. And yeah, most of of this people are christian, but are they really conservative? They don't care about human rights, it's true, but I think that seeing someone die every week on your street or having to run on your way to school to avoid a shooting can fuck up your notion of what human rights is, you just want it to stop. These people want free education, free healthcare, they want more government, but they can't trust the government anymore and, seriously, can you blame them? I don't know every brazilian here, but it's safe to say that we're really fucking privileged. I never even heard of anyone that has no basic sanitation, while half of brazil don't have it, that's how privileged I am.The average christian and conservative citizen you mean? C'mon, are you talking from the same Brazil? The majority is christian or conservative, man! Wake up!
Never underestimate the power of the cookie. Some people live for it.Digging through her tweets, there seems to be another female streamer just straight-up pandering to the alt-right scum by attacking her.
While I agree that, yes, Bolsonaro had a sweeping majority of upper-class elites voting for him and they aren't the real Brazil, we can't kid ourselves into thinking that somewhere the "real average Brazilian" voted for him out of a sense of naiveté and good intentions. Bolsonaro is a populist, his whole point is making his platform about easily digestible talking points with little nuance (that joke that his government agenda was just "Tem que mudar as coisa aí" isn't far from reality).While that's true, I think you are ignoring that the average brazilian has almost no education, half of our citizens don't have even basic sanitation. And yeah, most of of this people are christian, but are they really conservative? They don't care about human rights, it's true, but I think that seeing someone die every week on your street or having to run on your way to school to avoid a shooting can fuck up your notion of what human rights is, you just want it to stop. These people want free education, free healthcare, they want more government, but they can't trust the government anymore and, seriously, can you blame them? I don't know every brazilian here, but it's safe to say that we're really fucking privileged. I never even heard of anyone that has no basic sanitation, while half of brazil don't have it, that's how privileged I am.
That's not to say that we don't have our share of shity people, but it's important to note that Bolsonaro's popularity is bigger on our whitest and richest cities and these people (myself included) aren't the average brazilian.
Oh, I don't think people were just naive. I just think it's a bit unfair to categorize these people as just conservative. Our country clearly failed them and it's very hard to not fall to populism rhetoric when you're that marginalized.Never underestimate the power of the cookie. Some people live for it.
While I agree that, yes, Bolsonaro had a sweeping majority of upper-class elites voting for him and they aren't the real Brazil, we can't kid ourselves into thinking that somewhere the "real average Brazilian" voted for him out of a sense of naiveté and good intentions. Bolsonaro is a populist, his whole point is making his platform about easily digestible talking points with little nuance (that joke that his government agenda was just "Tem que mudar as coisa aí" isn't far from reality).
Plus, this wouldn't be the first time a company tried to cash in on the conservative wave in Brazil.
That is very true. Reminds me of when people were calling people from Roraima as anti-immigrant when the situation was clearly of a small rural community having to struggle for resources with an immigrant population, an alarming situation created by two governments (Brazil's and Venezuela's) completely failing their people.Oh, I don't think people were just naive. I just think it's a bit unfair to categorize these people as just conservative. Our country clearly failed them and it's very hard to not fall to populism rhetoric when you're that marginalized.
While that's true, I think you are ignoring that the average brazilian has almost no education, half of our citizens don't have even basic sanitation. And yeah, most of of this people are christian, but are they really conservative? They don't care about human rights, it's true, but I think that seeing someone die every week on your street or having to run on your way to school to avoid a shooting can fuck up your notion of what human rights is, you just want it to stop. These people want free education, free healthcare, they want more government, but they can't trust the government anymore and, seriously, can you blame them? I don't know every brazilian here, but it's safe to say that we're really fucking privileged. I never even heard of anyone that has no basic sanitation, while half of brazil don't have it, that's how privileged I am.
That's not to say that we don't have our share of shity people, but it's important to note that Bolsonaro's popularity is bigger on our whitest and richest cities and these people (myself included) aren't the average brazilian.
Yep. It's even more glaring when you realize that several people that voted for Lula before voted for Bolsonaro now. The problems are way more nuanced and all the pigeonholing happening since the elections just made everything worse.Oh, I don't think people were just naive. I just think it's a bit unfair to categorize these people as just conservative. Our country clearly failed them and it's very hard to not fall to populism rhetoric when you're that marginalized.
Someone says: "Women are trash"
"F YEAH that's right! Get back to sewing clothes women! Leave this to the real gamers!"
Woman says: "Men are trash"
"NOW WAIT JUST A MINUTE!!!"
Do these people not see how stupid they are???
I don't think I heard that they declined to renew her contract as opposed to straight of dropping her, before reading that article.
Lol, because context matters. Are you the person who asks why there's no white history month?
Lol, the fragility in this post.